Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

[Three Berries]

That's, not paranoia. Paranoia is being afraid to get jabbed thinking it's gonna kill ya lol. Yall think C-19 is the 1st virus/vaccine we ever had. What I do is not your concert so kick rocks champ. All you people do is cower in a corner afraid a jab will kill ya lol. Pathetic.

Some would rather depend on the time proven natural immunity. And it's still experimental gene therapy. How can they know the full effects with only a few weeks testing when it usually takes years? Like GMO?

And are you sure the actual vaccine you took is the one approved for the emergency use by the FDA?

 

[Hammerhead]

Lol, it’s not even the first version of this virus. Sars cov 1 in 2003, remember what happened? Lol. Not afraid at all. Just not into taking synthetic drugs that will have no benefit to my health. I’d rather eat healthy and take a vitamin D supplement and build real immunity that will last a lifetime.

That's your choice.. You seem to think others cant make their own choices what's best for them. What I do or anyone else does is no concern of yours. Covid is not new.. 19 is a mutation.. There will other mutations. If I choose the get a vaccine y'all need to stop with the scare tactics BS.

 

[Three Berries]

Covid-19 is not a 'natural' mutation rather a man made mutation.

 

[Volcanna]

That's your choice.. You seem to think others cant make their own choices what's best for them. What I do or anyone else does is no concern of yours. Covid is not new.. 19 is a mutation.. There will other mutations. If I choose the get a vaccine y'all need to stop with the scare tactics BS.

Hahahaha! “ oh no! it’s gonna mutate again! Stop trying to scare people!” - you

You don’t think there were any scare tactics in use to get the entire population terrified of a virus with a 99% survival rate? After you and your leaders pressured and coerced us for a whole year, now it’s do what’s best yourself? Lol. Right.

do you remember what happened with sars cov 1 ? You remember getting jabbed for it?

 

[Hammerhead]

Another dumbass gets added to ignore. Its like talking to a pill bug .

 

[Volcanna]

Another dumbass gets added to ignore. Its like talking to a pill bug .

Just ignore someone when they ask questions you don’t wanna answer. Classic.

 

[Switcher56]

Another dumbass gets added to ignore. Its like talking to a pill bug .

 

[Three Berries]

Ignore function here is not much good. Now bobistheoilguy forums has a good ignore system.

 

[Hammerhead]

I like Queen, One of my fav bands..

 

[Three Berries]

The Queen and Prince Charles both came down with the Covid even triple and quadrupled jabbed and boosted....

 

[Chi13]

Covid-19 is not a 'natural' mutation rather a man made mutation.

There is no evidence that Covid 19 is man made.

Hahahaha! “ oh no! it’s gonna mutate again! Stop trying to scare people!” - you

You don’t think there were any scare tactics in use to get the entire population terrified of a virus with a 99% survival rate? After you and your leaders pressured and coerced us for a whole year, now it’s do what’s best yourself? Lol. Right.

do you remember what happened with sars cov 1 ? You remember getting jabbed for it?

It is absolutely going to mutate again. That's what viruses do.

I got jabbed because it is the right thing to do for several reasons
The health system in my country would have been overwhelmed otherwise, putting many at risk. This happened in many parts of the world.
Getting vaxxed is not perfect but it does reduce the chances of severe disease and dying. I have elderly parents at risk and I care about passing this on to others.
The vaccine is much safer than getting covid itself. Whilst survival rates are high, long covid is an unpleasant risk.

 

[Doctor M]

Muhhhh Science ..... from the CDC

The Queen recovers from covid after taking Stromectol.....

 

[Doctor M]

The New York Times reports quotes from the CDC spokesperson about why the public health organization refuses to release data on COVID-19 and the vaccines. The CDC basically says they do not want to release the data because they are worried people will talk about the data, and not the official CDC interpretation of the data. So, the CDC says, trust us… we’ve looked at the data… it says good things, promise.

​​​​​​https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/health/covid-cdc-data.html


If the vaccines are effective, they cannot be misinterpreted as being ineffective. However, if the data shows the vaccines are ineffective, which at this point almost everyone admits they are, then the question becomes what were all of the mandates about?

The CDC has become yet another institution, amid a network of institutions, that has collapsed itself under the weight of pushing political ideology as the primary mission. The CDC joins the FDA, DHS, HHS, FBI, DOJ, DoS, Pentagon and the larger intelligence apparatus as collapsing under their institutional ideology.

We were always rightly skeptical of these institutions of government. However, now a much larger audience sees them naked and exposed.

 

[Volcanna]

There is no evidence that Covid 19 is man made.


It is absolutely going to mutate again. That's what viruses do.

I got jabbed because it is the right thing to do for several reasons
The health system in my country would have been overwhelmed otherwise, putting many at risk. This happened in many parts of the world.
Getting vaxxed is not perfect but it does reduce the chances of severe disease and dying. I have elderly parents at risk and I care about passing this on to others.
The vaccine is much safer than getting covid itself. Whilst survival rates are high, long covid is an unpleasant risk.

Yes. Just a coincidence they were injecting sars cov 1 into bats in a lab in the town where the virus originated.

The jab doesn’t stop transmission. So….

is there data to support the idea that you can’t get long covid from a breakthrough case?

 

[Gry]

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[Gry]

.Our group of bozos are open in their contempt for the country.
The vaccines have worked well, it was bozo donald's "it will go away in the spring" attitude that failed.
The CDC has saved a lot of lives, no wonder you despise it, the jackasses you carry water for hate public health.
Being sceptical of any thing that improves the quality of life for the average American is the traditional right wing stance,
and the sole reason why this country has not had single payer health care for the past fifty years.

 

[Doctor M]

When I read the comments here it's always a good laugh. Some folks are "wise" to the real history and the treachery or so they claim. However they can't recognize the same old fear campaign designed to get you to conform against your own interests. You know like they do when they want war. But this time it's a "KILLER Virus" instead of super scary terrorist in Afganistan or Saddam's weapons of mass destruction. Don't lecture me on "how things really work" while being a complete toolbag.

Let's see if I have this right.

Science = Vaccinating in the middle of a pandemic, wearing a mask capable of stopping 95% of particles 3 nanometers or larger (N95) to stop a virus particle that is 1 nanometer in size, Only The unvaccinated are spreading covid even after the CDC says the fully vaccinated are capable of getting and spreading covid. And my favorite.... Getting vaccinated/boosted against covid mutations (Delta, Omicron) even if the vaccine was developed for the original strain which is long gone. Calling a gene therapy which quickly wanes in it's supposed ability to protect you from covid, a vaccine. Irrational fear of virus with an extremely high survival rate to the point of willingly giving up your liberty.

Anti-Science = Questioning college educated people from someones favorite echo chamber, because you don't have a PhD. Not wanting experimental gene therapies which have not under gone long term testing. Citing NIH studies on Ivermectin's anti viral effects. Listening to experts in the fields of Virology, Immunology, Epidemiology over the advice of some pharma shill on MSNBC, The Guardian, The Atlantic and just for shits and giggle Wired magazine. Strenghtening your immune system through diet, exercise and a little Vitamin D during the winter months. Natural immunity.




The secret to tracking covid vaccine deaths is to compare the CDC's data on "deaths from all causes" to previous years and adjust for population changes..

Some folks die within days or weeks of the jabs while others will watch accelerated cancers destroy their lives and many others will enjoy blood clotting, strokes and heart attacks. Pharma owns the CDC, FDA. HHS, the media's revenue stream, Republicans, Democrats and your favorite TV doctor



Innate Immune Suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes and microRNAs

​​​​​​https://www.authorea.com/users/45559...1a4cd604f7fdc7

 

[Chi13]

Yes. Just a coincidence they were injecting sars cov 1 into bats in a lab in the town where the virus originated.

The jab doesn’t stop transmission. So….

is there data to support the idea that you can’t get long covid from a breakthrough case?

I have done a lot of reading about the virus origins, and think that it is more likely a natural virus. There is still no evidence either way. People just repeating that it is from a lab does not make it true. The politics around this has been to blame China. As I said there is still no evidence. It is inclusive either way. Viruses do occur naturally and have done forever.

The jab reduces the chances of catching the virus (with booster), so yes, if I don't catch it, less chance of passing it on. But I agree that the jabs are less effective on the latest virus version. Doesn't make them ineffective.

There is some evidence to suggest that vaccinated have reduced chance of long Covid.
So far, it appears a relatively small number of fully vaccinated people develop long COVID symptoms — but it's too early to say exactly how common such cases are.

Professor Matthews says although COVID-19 vaccines don't eliminate your risk entirely, they reduce your chances of getting long COVID.

That's primarily because COVID-19 vaccines help to prevent you contracting the disease in the first place.

But research also suggests being fully vaccinated decreases your risk of long COVID, even if a breakthrough infection occurs.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2...says/100631774

For example, a case-control study of 1·2 million users of a COVID symptom tracker app in the UK showed that there were lower odds of symptoms lasting 28 days or more in individuals who had received two vaccine doses (odds ratio 0·51 [95% CI 0·32–0·82]; p=0·0060)—ie, the risk of developing long COVID was reduced by around 50% in those who were double vaccinated.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(22)00020-0/fulltext

 

[Hammerhead]

You would think by now the facts of the vaccine and the Virus would prove its validity. At this point, it's a waste of time trying to convince the inconvincible. There isn't anything you could post that would change this.

 

[Doctor M]

As of 6 February 2022, based on publicly available official UK and US data, all age groups under 50 years old are at greater risk of fatality after receiving a COVID-19 inoculation than an unvaccinated person is at risk of a COVID-19 death.

All age groups under 80 years old have virtually no benefit from receiving a COVID-19 inoculation, and the younger ages incur significant risk.


This analysis is conservative because it ignores the fact that inoculation-induced adverse events such as thrombosis, myocarditis, Bell’s palsy, and other vaccine-induced injuries can lead to shortened life span.