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Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

  • yes, gimme

    Votes: 29 31.9%
  • not yet

    Votes: 15 16.5%
  • no way

    Votes: 47 51.6%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
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Japan's Kowa says ivermectin effective against Omicron in phase III trial

The trial found ivermectin has "an antiviral effect" against the variant, Kowa said without providing further details.

Japanese trading and pharmaceutical company Kowa Co Ltd (7807.T) said on Monday anti-parasite drug ivermectin has been found effective for treating the Omicron variant of COVID-19 in a Phase III trial.

The trial found ivermectin has "an antiviral effect" against the variant, Kowa said without providing further details. The firm has been working with Kitasato University, a medical university in Tokyo.

Clinical trials evaluating the drug, which is used to treat parasites in animals and humans, are ongoing but promotion of the drug as a COVID-19 treatment has generated controversy.

The drug is not approved for treatment of COVID-19 in Japan and the U.S. Federal Drug Administration has repeatedly warned against its use.

indiatoday.in
 

Three Berries

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Are actually trying to claim Trump is an antivaxxer after coming out and admitting not only is he vaxxed but boosted as well?

Then is he lying about being vaxxed? Or is he not?

Trying to wrap my brain around your contradictory word salad.

Trump has a long history of being an anti vaxxer. You'll have to ask the Dr if he got the vax or not.
 

h.h.

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Veteran
Japan's Kowa says ivermectin effective against Omicron in phase III trial

The trial found ivermectin has "an antiviral effect" against the variant, Kowa said without providing further details.

Japanese trading and pharmaceutical company Kowa Co Ltd (7807.T) said on Monday anti-parasite drug ivermectin has been found effective for treating the Omicron variant of COVID-19 in a Phase III trial.

The trial found ivermectin has "an antiviral effect" against the variant, Kowa said without providing further details. The firm has been working with Kitasato University, a medical university in Tokyo.

Clinical trials evaluating the drug, which is used to treat parasites in animals and humans, are ongoing but promotion of the drug as a COVID-19 treatment has generated controversy.

The drug is not approved for treatment of COVID-19 in Japan and the U.S. Federal Drug Administration has repeatedly warned against its use.

indiatoday.in

No details. Only bullshit. The story was corrected already. You missed it.
 

mexcurandero420

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Antiviral effect of high-dose ivermectin in adults with COVID-19: A proof-of-concept randomized trial

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/...89-5370(21)00239-X/fulltext#seccesectitle0026

Dosage 0-6 mg/kg/day were the patients been given.Looks to me a bit to high on the brite side.
Dr. korcy gave his patients during the Delta period of max 0.6 mg/kg/day.

The British wrote also about the Japanese trail.
https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/japan/ivermectin-omicron-japan-kowa-co-b2004901.html
 

mexcurandero420

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lots of stuff has an anti-viral effect in a petri dish. every trial of any size following scientific protocol shows ivermectin not doing shit...

Phase III trial is not petri dish stage otherwise those mrna jabs are in the same stage.Those jabs arent doing any shit either.

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armedoldhippy

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Phase III trial is not petri dish stage otherwise those mrna jabs are in the same stage.Those jabs arent doing any shit either.


we are having record numbers of cases largely because we still have large numbers of imbeciles that are not vaccinated. sure, Omicron is causing some breakthrough cases, but most hospitalizations (and deaths) are among the aforementioned imbeciles. don't need them...i'd bet the average IQ of American citizens is climbing as the morons die out...
 

mexcurandero420

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Are adverse events in Covid-19 vaccine trials under-reported?​

24 November 2021|COVID-19, Industry influence

By Maryanne Demasi, PhD

Phase III controlled trials are considered the ‘gold standard’ for assessing vaccine efficacy and safety in humans.

These are the trials upon which authorities have assured the public that Covid-19 vaccines are “safe and effective.”

The benefits of the vaccines in reducing disease severity and hospitalisations are well-known, but what do we know about the adverse events?

Data on adverse events is vital for effective decision-making by regulators, policy makers, doctors, and patients.

But there are serious concerns about publication bias or selective omission of data, whereby adverse events are less likely to be published than positive results.

A systematic review in PLOS journal analysed 28 studies and found that adverse events were less likely to appear in published journal articles than unpublished studies (e.g. industry-held data).

Experts now suggest that the pivotal Covid-19 vaccine trials may have under-reported adverse events in several ways.

Virtual monitoring with digital apps

In the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccine trials, participants were given digital apps to record adverse events remotely - a more convenient, time efficient and cost-effective way of gathering patient data.

A major problem however, is that the pre-determined options on the digital apps have a narrow focus on particular adverse events.

For example, the app only allows a participant to record what the company deems as ‘expected’ events such as fever, pain at injection site, temperature, redness, swelling, fatigue, headache, diarrhoea, chills, muscle and joint pain.

But if they experience a serious adverse event like myocarditis or early signs of transverse myelitis, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, a myopathic disorder, myocarditis or thrombosis, there is no option for them to record it on the app.

Case in point: Brianne Dressen, a participant in the AstraZeneca (AZD1222) trial. She suffered a severe adverse event after her first injection and became disabled.

But her smartphone app did not allow her to record the particular type of adverse event, nor did it allow her to record her symptoms in her own words.

Once hospitalised, Ms Dressen was ‘unblinded’ from the trial. She was informed that she had been given the AstraZeneca vaccine, not the placebo, and advised not to have the second injection.

The investigators subsequently “withdrew” Ms Dressen from the trial, they disabled her smartphone app, and all her data from that day onwards, were never documented despite still experiencing disability today.

Ms Dressen was concerned about the lack of reporting of her adverse event (and others) in the trial’s publication in the top-tiered New England Journal of Medicine.

She wrote to the journal seeking to “request inaccuracies in the trial publication be corrected, and to demand complete reporting of the trial publication and results.”

Editor-in-chief Dr Eric Rubin refused to correct the inaccurate data in his journal. The full email exchange has been made public.

If vaccine manufacturers selectively withdraw subjects who experience serious adverse events (as in the case of Brianne Dressen and others) it may explain why the trials mostly found “statistically significant” increases in minor adverse events (fever, chills, headaches) but not in serious harms.

Blaming an underlying condition

When Pfizer recruited 12-15 year olds for its mRNA vaccine trial, the published data in the New England Journal of Medicine, stated that there were “no serious vaccine-related adverse events.”

One of the participants in the trial was 13-year-old Maddie De Garay. She was randomly assigned to the vaccine group and following her first injection, Ms De Garay suffered a severe adverse reaction, leaving her in a wheelchair and fed by a nasogastric tube.

She was referred to hospital for a full assessment and a doctor diagnosed Ms De Garay with a “functional disorder”.

Put simply, this doctor decided that a pre-disposition to “hysteria,” was to blame for her physical disability - not the vaccine - and on this basis, she was referred to a mental health facility.

Dr David Healy, a psychiatrist based in Ontario, Canada, subsequently conducted a thorough review of Ms De Garay’s medical records, including an interview with her family and found no such history of pre-existing conditions or mental illness.

“This trial designation is not just wrong, but quite unbelievable,” said Dr Healy who feared that the erroneous diagnosis would jeopardise Ms De Garay’s treatment and progress.

“It is perhaps even sociopathic as it appears that, in order to maintain Pfizer’s position, this young woman is not getting the treatment that would be ordinarily indicated for the kind of problems she has. Instead based on a claimed ‘functional disorder’, she has been directed to a mental health facility,” said Dr Healy.

“If there is any chance that you have a pre-existing condition, then they do not blame the vaccine,” he says. “And so they can claim there were no serious vaccine-related events because they do not believe her reaction was 'vaccine-related'. It is quite unbelievable.”

Dr Healy says he has seen it before - in Study 329 - which looked at antidepressants (SSRIs) in children and adolescents. A 15-year-old boy was dropped from the trial after being diagnosed with an “intercurrent illness”.

It was only by chance, that later, Dr Healy found out that the trial participant developed homicidal behaviours two weeks after taking the SSRI, which Dr Healy says was almost certainly induced by the drug.

But because the young boy was diagnosed with an “intercurrent illness” in the trial, it meant that the investigators did not have to write up a narrative explaining why this patient was dropped from the trial.

In AstraZeneca’s Phase III trial of its vaccine, the one in which Brianne Dressen was a participant, the study stated;

“Deaths that were adjudicated as not related to Covid-19 were treated as intercurrent events and therefore censored at the date of death.”

Dr Healy said, “This may well be a sink-hole into which deaths from the vaccine have vanished. Patients with strokes, heart attacks or thrombotic events may have all vanished here, the justification being that they must have had a dodgy heart or another pre-existing [or intercurrent] illness.”

Vaccine-related deaths

When publishing deaths in the trials, Dr Healy points out that investigators do not link the vaccine with any deaths that occur immediately after the first dose of the vaccine, up to 14 days after the second dose of the vaccine.

In other words: 1) first injection, 2) wait for three weeks before having second injection, 3) wait a further two weeks. That is a total of five weeks where deaths are not considered to be vaccine related.

The investigators say it is because participants are not “fully immune” until two weeks after their second dose. That is true.

However, it fails to capture any deaths that might be caused by the vaccine in that five-week period.

Dr Healy was very critical of this method of data collection.

“Randomised controlled trials are not supposed to allow decisions like this. All deaths should be reported. The company can say that they do not think the deaths were caused by the vaccine, but we need a chance to know how many there were and decide if these need further investigation,” said Dr Healy.

It is important to know because real world data obtained from the CDC (as at 25 June 2021) shows that the majority of reported deaths after a Covid-19 vaccine, occur within 30 days.

This surveillance data cannot establish a causal link with the vaccine, but the signal is considered significant, especially if deaths linked to the vaccine are not being captured in the controlled trials.


The lesson from “controlled trials”

Data about the safety of vaccines are just as important as the efficacy, although, the media and public health officials often focus on the latter.

So far, reports of serious, life-threatening adverse events linked to the vaccines have not been found in the “gold standard” controlled trials. They were only detected once hundreds of thousands of people had been vaccinated.

Myocarditis, for example, only emerged from Israel once they started rolling out the Pfizer vaccine to the population. And reports of vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia (VITT) linked with the AstraZeneca vaccine first emerged from European surveillance systems, not controlled trials.

If all Covid-19 vaccine trials are funded, designed, conducted, and analysed by the manufacturers - which is known to distort the results to favour the sponsor’s aims - then more should be done to gain access to the data to allow for independent scrutiny.


28 Nov 2021: This article was updated to clarify that 5 weeks after first injection, investigators do not link death to vaccines, rather than exclude deaths in the total count.
https://maryannedemasi.com/publicati...under-reported
 

h.h.

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Dosage 0-6 mg/kg/day were the patients been given.Looks to me a bit to high on the brite side.
Dr. korcy gave his patients during the Delta period of max 0.6 mg/kg/day.

The British wrote also about the Japanese trail.
https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/japan/ivermectin-omicron-japan-kowa-co-b2004901.html

It is a bit high. That’s why they don’t use it.

I’m not going to go to the clickbait. Don’t care what the “Independent” says. It’s just more bullshit designed to get clicks. I’m not supporting them.
 

mexcurandero420

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we are having record numbers of cases largely because we still have large numbers of imbeciles that are not vaccinated. sure, Omicron is causing some breakthrough cases, but most hospitalizations (and deaths) are among the aforementioned imbeciles. don't need them...i'd bet the average IQ of American citizens is climbing as the morons die out...

Where are the vaccinated in Africa then? Report of last December showed only 7% was vaccinated.Doesnt matter, but the most infected are the triple vaccinated population.I think the IQ will drop even further.
 
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