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Coronavirus.. outlook

Medfinder

Chemon 91
China
In China, they’re closing churches, jailing pastors – and even rewriting scripture

In late October, the pastor of one of China’s best-known underground churches asked this of his congregation: had they successfully spread the gospel throughout their city? “If tomorrow morning the Early Rain Covenant Church suddenly disappeared from the city of Chengdu, if each of us vanished into thin air, would this city be any different? Would anyone miss us?” said Wang Yi, leaning over his pulpit and pausing to let the question weigh on his audience. “I don’t know.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/china-christians-religious-persecution-translation-bible



Chinese Government Blows Up Christian Megachurch–a Warning to Local Churche

https://www.opendoorsusa.org/christian-persecution/stories/chinese-government-blows-christian-megachurch-warning-local-churches/

Warning from the book of revelation about changing scripture...

Revelation 22:19 King James Version (KJV)
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
About 56 percent of what you pay for something “made in China” goes to U.S. workers and companies, on average, according to a new analysis released by the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco. The rules are complicated, but “made in China” roughly indicates a good was assembled in a Chinese factory.Jan 11, 2019


Looking at eBay today many Chinese vendors are...AWAY...
 

St. Phatty

Active member
About 56 percent of what you pay for something “made in China” goes to U.S. workers and companies, on average, according to a new analysis released by the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco. The rules are complicated, but “made in China” roughly indicates a good was assembled in a Chinese factory.Jan 11, 2019

Looking at eBay today many Chinese vendors are...AWAY...

One of my favorite Chinese manufacturers, "CCOP" - they make Scope Mounts.

One of the few things I buy on Amazon.

$30 on Amazon. I don't know what a comparable American made scope mount would cost. I think some of the $60 scope mounts are made in China too.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DP26OUK/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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ElGato

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Translated from Turkish to English.

"Deciphering:

11.06.2019

#ABD sent a plane full of biological weapons to China. Epidemics may begin in China soon."


https://twitter.com/EmirYildizdan/status/1138545686100815873

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Turkish News media

"On 11 June 2019, we made the necessary warning on the epidemic in China on Twitter. This information was of course known at that time, and we were hesitant about whether to disclose it. Then we decided to announce it!

Transmitted from there, passed through that animal, etc. these are always stories. Coronavirus was produced as a biological weapon and was shipped to China by the US by plane. Everything is known up to the tail number of the plane."

https://www.onaltiyildiz.com/?haber,7658/cin-deki-coronavirusunu-ilk-kez-biz-duyurmustuk
 

St. Phatty

Active member
Looks like they are still letting flights from china, even wuhan, into the USofA.

US airports are now screening passengers from Wuhan.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...virus-death-toll-accelerates-supply-shortages

People make fun of North Korea

and yes the guy does have a dorky hair cut

But Mongolia, Malaysia, and North Korea are the 3 countries smart enough to close their borders.


The US ... not so much.

Imagine if during the SARS virus they let visibly infectious patients walk around spreading the virus.

Well that's the US policy so far for the Wuhan corona-virus. Basically.


The US screening methods are Mucho de Estupido.

They're looking for visible signs of infection, like temperature.

But patients who contract Wuhan coronavirus are infectious for 5 to 10 days before they get/show the symptoms.

They're letting most of the infected Wuhan patients through.


Anybody who has that virus enough to have a temperature would greatly prefer laying down over sitting on an airplane. i.e. the sick Wuhan patients are self screening.
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
Watching live cgtn news on youtube.
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10.000 now under medical observation in Huber provence...

No measured fever still has transmittal...up to 14 day transmitting before on set in some infected...[YOUTUBEIF][/YOUTUBEIF]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zjWq0cyR4Qc
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
China ccp reports over 4500... 108 died from coronavirus...

Markets are up... n95 masks and swim Google are in high demand on ebay and amazon...
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
You can still catch a flight from Wuhan to Anchorage, Tokyo, Seoul, Bangkok, Singapore, Taipei and countless cities in China including Beijing and Shanghai.

There are 8 pages of flights out of Wuhan today. That's about 200 flights. Most of the flights are within China, but that hardly stops containment.

In the 00:00-06:00 slot one flight left for Anchorage. Another left for Bangkok, Thailand and another went to Tokyo.

In the 06:00-12:00 slot, two planes left for Tokyo and three to Hong Kong.

In the 12:00-18:00 slot, three planes left for Seoul, South Korea and two went to Taipei, Taiwan.

In the 18:00-00:00 slot, one plane went to Bangkok , three went to Taipei, three went to Hong Kong,

Wuhan Departures Tomorrow
Tomorrow, there are four flights from Wuhan to Singapore, three to Taipei, two to Bangkok, three to Tokyo, three to Paris, and six to Hong Kong, three to San Francisco,


The rest headed for other parts of China including Beijing. Then where?​ Here are international possibilities from Beijing.

US and Canada Destinations From Beijing Today
New York, Boston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Detroit, Anchorage, Newark, Vancouver

European Destinations From Beijing Today
Amsterdam, Istanbul, Paris, Prague, Milan, Moscow, Frankfort, Munich, Athens, Barcelona, Warsaw, Rome, Stockholm, London

Other International Destinations From Beijing Today
Sydney, Singapore, Melbourne, Abu Dahabi, Manila, Auckland, Hong Kong, Seoul, Macau, Osaka, Bangkok, Ho Chi Minh, Taipei.

Flight Ban Starting Today

The media, the CDC, and the World Health Organization aren't telling you what you need to know about the coronavirus.
Why haven’t global governments banned Chinese inbound tourists?

Because they didn’t have to. China already did that for them to make it less awkward. https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-china-bans-citizens-booking-overseas-tours-2020-1

No, that was a blatant lie by China.

Dereliction of Duty Everywhere
​Earlier today Chris Martenson proclaimed "WHO is Derelict" on Coronavirus

WHO is the World Health Organization. Add to that list, the Center for Disease Control (CDC), Chinese officials, and other US health officials.

The sane thing to do was ban all flights from China days ago.
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But more landed today and far more are scheduled for tomorrow. And that's just from two cities. I did not check departures from Shanghai or other large Chinese cities.

Many of you know Chris Martenson from his economic website, Peak Prosperity.

But even those who do know him, may not be aware that his background includes a PhD in pathology.

If you have not done so already, please do yourself a favor and look at ZEROHEDGElllllll reporting...
Addendum - Monday Departures From China


I can confirm arrivals in Hong Kong, Bangkok, Vancouver, Toronto, Seul, Delhi (India), Moscow, Viena, Macau, London, Taipei, New York, Osaka (Japan), Stockholm, Boston, Frankfort, Los Angeles, Singapore, Frankfort, Tokyo, Paris, San Francisco, and Amsterdam from Beijing.

Some planes to Los Angeles, Newark, Singapore, Addis Ababa (Ethiopia), Istanbul, and Sydney are in the air.

I only located 1 cancelled departure from Beijing out of roughly 1,800 flights. It was to Detroit. There could be more.

Many flights from Wuhan are cancelled. Others are marked as "unknown". I now believe these unknown flights are cancelled.

I can confirm planes from Shanghai have arrived in Singapore, Bangkok, Manila, Paris, Prague, Amsterdam, Melbourne, Auckland, Sydney, Perth, Munich, Moscow, Tokyo, London, Seul, Osaka, Anchorage, Hong Kong, Ho Chi Minh City, Phnom Penh, Paris, Viena, London, Detroit, Chicago, New York, Toronto.

Wuhan may be locked down. The rest of China isn't yet.
 

Rocky Mtn Squid

EL CID SQUID
Veteran
110 patients under observation in US, while other countries assess plans as more ill

110 patients under observation in US, while other countries assess plans as more ill

***Centres for Disease Control and Prevention does not believe virus has mutated, and says the risk to the US public remains low


***At this time in the US, this virus is not spreading in the community,’ an official says

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Travelers arriving at the Los Angeles International Airport on Wednesday

In separate appeals, two prominent senators – Chuck Schumer of New York, the senior Democrat in the Senate, and Rick Scott, Republican of Florida – have called on US President Donald Trump to announce a national public health emergency. The move would release millions of dollars for the CDC to deploy in combating the disease’s spread in the US.

Trump said in a tweet on Monday that his administration had offered Beijing “any help that is necessary” and that his administration was “strongly on watch”.
Trump showered praise on Beijing last week for its “efforts and transparency” in combating the crisis, despite mounting criticism that the government initially played down the severity of the outbreak.

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Officials from the top US public health agency said on Monday that 110 people around the country with a fever and respiratory illness have been placed under observation to determine if they have been infected with the China coronavirus.
Officials from the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said the “persons under investigation” (PUIs) came from 26 states and had all either travelled to the epicentre of the outbreak, Wuhan, or had come into contact with confirmed infected patients.
The number “will only increase”, Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Centre for Immunisation and Respiratory Diseases, said in an agency briefing.

But the immediate health risk of the pneumonia-like illness – known as 2019-nCoV – to the US public remained low, she said: “At this time in the US, this virus is not spreading in the community.”

Meanwhile, other countries are assessing their own plans for the virus, with Germany joining other European countries with plans to extract their citizens from Wuhan, which is currently locked down.

China and Hong Kong take no chances as Wuhan coronavirus spreads

According to Messonnier, The CDC has extracted and analysed the genomes from the first and second confirmed cases in the US and found that the virus did not appear to have mutated.
“All the sequences we’ve extracted are similar to the one that China initially posted a couple of weeks ago,” she said.


Three positive diagnoses over the weekend brought the total number of confirmed cases in the US to five.
The CDC’s assurances came despite the roll-out of drastic measures not only in China but also around the world as governments scramble to bolster defences against the contagion’s spread.

As of Monday, at least 2,839 cases have been confirmed in China, with the vast majority coming from Wuhan, where the contagion originated.

The death of a 50-year-old man in Beijing on Monday brought the official death toll to 82.

Experts believe that the true number of infections in Wuhan greatly exceeds the official figure, with a group of Hong Kong academics estimating the figure to be almost 44,000, according to an announcement on Monday.

International cases are also on the rise, with dozens confirmed across East and Southeast Asia. The South Asian island of Sri Lanka announced its first case on Monday.

Thousands left Wuhan for Hong Kong, Bangkok, Singapore or Tokyo before lockdown.


Also on Monday, authorities in Macau announced the city’s seventh case, after the diagnosis of a 67-year-old woman who had travelled there from Wuhan.

News of the case came the same day that Macau, a semi-autonomous city state, stepped up measures against the virus, rolling out blanket screening of all people from Hubei province in every hotel. Authorities there announced on Sunday that about 1,100 Hubei visitors in the city needed to return to the mainland or be placed in isolation.

Canada has announced two cases: a husband and wife who had travelled to Toronto from Wuhan on Wednesday. Public health officials there announced on Saturday that the husband was admitted to Toronto’s Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre on Thursday, with the coronavirus diagnosed two days later.
He is in stable condition and his wife has been in self-isolation since arriving in Toronto, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation reported on Monday.

As the disease spreads, countries are drawing up plans to extract citizens from Wuhan, a city of 11 million which is effectively under lockdown along with numerous other cities in Hubei province.
Germany will repatriate 90 Germans living in the Wuhan area, Der Spiegel magazine reported on Monday, joining France, Portugal, Spain, Britain and the US, which have various plans to evacuate staff and citizens.

Britain’s health minister has asked around 1,500 people who arrived from Wuhan in the past two weeks to put themselves in isolation, Agence France-Presse reported.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock said that British authorities “cannot be 100 per cent certain” that the virus will not spread from a person who exhibits no flu-like symptoms. “From today, we are therefore asking anyone in the UK who has returned from Wuhan in the last 14 days to self-isolate,” he told a parliamentary hearing on Monday.

The US State Department issued a “do not travel” warning, a level 4 travel advisory – its most strict – for China’s Hubei province.
“Chinese authorities have imposed strict travel restrictions in the area around Wuhan,” the advisory said. “Travelers should be aware that the Chinese government could prevent them from entering or exiting parts of Hubei province. Travelers should be prepared for travel restrictions to be put into effect with little or no advance notice.”

For the whole of mainland China, the State Department raised its advisory to level 3, or “reconsider travel”.
In Washington, pressure is growing on the Trump administration to institute emergency measures.

A WHO spokeswoman said on Monday that the organisation’s emergency committee, which determines whether to declare a global health emergency, was “ready to reconvene” at short notice if needed.

Messonnier of the CDC said that it could be some time until a “definitive answer” was reached about the true severity of the disease. Experts, for example, are divided on the contagion’s “R0” figure, the metric determining how easily a disease can be transmitted.

To aid its analysis of the virus the CDC is collecting samples and growing the disease in cell culture, she said.

The agency has also developed a diagnostic test for the virus and would be distributing kits to “priority states” soon, Messonnier said, though she declined to identify which states those were.
Suggesting the technology could be made available to health authorities in China, she said that the testing kits would be distributed to international partners “in the coming weeks”.


Source: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3047836/china-coronavirus-us-health-officials-say-risk-public-remains



I am certainly no expert on viruses and how to fight and contain them. That's way above my pay grade. However, if ANY of these asshole bureaucrats/administrators/politicians were to use logic, wouldn't common sense/logic dictate that all international flights from SE Asia should be temporarily halted until further notice...??????

It appears that this epidemic is going to get much worse, before it gets better. I hope I'm wrong. And now I'm reading from the so-called experts that it's mutating. BAD NEWS if true.

Are they really that worthless incompetent and stupid... ? It's almost as if they want this virus to spread...... :thinking:...... WTF..????



RMS

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Medfinder

Chemon 91
DW News reporting 1 hour ago...

Bavarian health officials stating that virus can be spread WITHOUT SYMPTOMS SHOWING....

A chinese heath member in Bavaria without symptoms was in contact and 15 minutes of meeting with Bavarian health members an Bavaria heath associates contracted coronavirus...

Chinese heath worker had left and tested positive at Chinese heath center after visiting Bavaria without symptoms and standard laser temp checking...

Temp monitor's seem useless...after this proven fact from Bavaria reporting..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I7_rFNlCGOg
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
Coronavirus Outbreak Footage Video January 28, 2020, What really happen in Wuhan

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St. Phatty

Active member
DW News reporting 1 hour ago...

Bavarian health officials stating that virus can be spread WITHOUT SYMPTOMS SHOWING....


That is the normal growth of the virus - the patient is infectious for 5 to 10 days, BEFORE they feel anything flu-ish, or have a temperature that can be measured as too high.

So far the US is among the most stupid of all the nations involved - letting dozens or hundreds of planes full of people from Wuhan & China into the US, then letting the passengers de-plane and go wonder out in public.
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
Us government to bring citizens to Ontario airport social...

Will they quarantine?

Ontario International Airport statement regarding Coronavirus
Posted on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 3:25pm

(Ontario, California – January 27, 2020) – Ontario International Airport (ONT) is working closely with our federal, state, county and city partners to plan for the possibility of a flight carrying U.S. government officials and private citizens returning this week from Wuhan, China.

Ontario International is an official repatriation center for the West Coast and has conducted extensive training in managing situations such as this. In the event that the returning passengers do arrive at ONT, preparations are being made to ensure that proper health, safety and security procedures are followed.

In coordination with our state partners, we are aware that the Medical and Health Coordination Center (MHCC) at the state Department of Public Health in Sacramento has been activated. The MHCC is coordinating with all state health agencies and emergency services.
From not airport website....


The airport will proceed under normal operations during this period. The safety and security of our facilities are of utmost importance to ONT, and we are taking whatever steps are necessary to minimize the risk to our customers, our staff and the community at large.
 

Rocky Mtn Squid

EL CID SQUID
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Us government to bring citizens to Ontario airport social...

Will they quarantine?

Ontario International Airport statement regarding Coronavirus
Posted on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 3:25pm

(Ontario, California – January 27, 2020) – Ontario International Airport (ONT) is working closely with our federal, state, county and city partners to plan for the possibility of a flight carrying U.S. government officials and private citizens returning this week from Wuhan, China.

Ontario International is an official repatriation center for the West Coast and has conducted extensive training in managing situations such as this. In the event that the returning passengers do arrive at ONT, preparations are being made to ensure that proper health, safety and security procedures are followed.

In coordination with our state partners, we are aware that the Medical and Health Coordination Center (MHCC) at the state Department of Public Health in Sacramento has been activated. The MHCC is coordinating with all state health agencies and emergency services.
From not airport website....


The airport will proceed under normal operations during this period. The safety and security of our facilities are of utmost importance to ONT, and we are taking whatever steps are necessary to minimize the risk to our customers, our staff and the community at large.


99% of Canadian government officials, especially Health Canada, are complete knuckleheads.

They couldn't tie their boot laces properly if you gave them a CD Rom with instructions.

Expecting them to do a competent job is like asking a four year old child to to calculate quadractic equations in their head.


RMS

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