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Coronavirus.. outlook

Medfinder

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61,730 (1%)
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Sunshineinabag

Active member
10 points for word use !

maybe we should have a thread where everybody is required to use the word Trump, as a verb.

New Zealand Trumped the USA ! ! !


as far as the other kind of Trump -

Trump (noun) Trump-fucked (adverb) the USA, and then NZ Trumped (verb) the USA.


so how would someone use "Trump" as an adjective ?

not sure I want to know ...

My card Trump's your card
My hair by far Trump's your hair lmaop:bigeye:
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
Coronavirus Cases:
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61,761 (1%)
Serious or Critical
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15,539,457 (95%)
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797,695 (5%)
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aridbud

automeister
ICMag Donor
Veteran
We didn't wait for the feds’: How New Mexico worked to contain Covid

We didn't wait for the feds’: How New Mexico worked to contain Covid

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/21/lujan-grisham-coronavirus-biden-latino-399298

We didn't wait for the feds’: How New Mexico worked to contain Covid
"For the record, I despise competing with other states," the Democratic governor said of her efforts to obtain PPE.

08/21/2020 04:30 AM EDT

EL PASO, Texas — Covid-19 caught New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham's eye in 2019.

When the state reported three cases of Covid-19 in March, she declared a public health emergency, canceling state-run events and urging for other large gatherings to be shut down. Within a few days, the state had a drive-thru testing site setup. Now, New Mexico has kept its positive test rate down to around 3 percent — figures far lower than in neighboring Arizona and Texas, where the virus is popping up at more than 15 percent and 16 percent, respectively.

Lujan Grisham served as the state’s health secretary for years before running for Congress and governor. She said the experience of dealing with public health campaigns, working with laboratories and other health facilities and handling infectious diseases helped prepared her to contend with Covid.


“I saw this pandemic coming well before January, and we began to lay out a planning strategy, including drive through testing, so we didn't wait for the feds,” Lujan Grisham told POLITICO on Wednesday before she spoke at the Democratic National Convention. "Not having a federal effort and response and strategy is malpractice."

Despite its best efforts, New Mexico is still struggling to contain the virus, which swept through the Navajo Nation in the state’s northwestern corner. And shutdowns have devastated the economy of the already struggling state.

Now Lujan Grisham, the country’s first Latina Democrat elected governor who was said to be on the long list to be Joe Biden’s running mate, is tasked with helping the Democratic nominee reach Latino voters, especially in swing states like Arizona and New Mexico. (New Mexico also made history with Lujan Grisham's predecessor, Susana Martinez, the nation's first elected Latina governor, a Republican.)

This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

How did New Mexico contain the Covid outbreak?

One thing we did is declaring it as a real emergency, staying the course and engaging New Mexicans in good public health behavior. Early, we said, it's got to be a mandatory mask mandates everywhere.

We've been in the top states for testing. I personally go after testing, supplies, commodities on the front-end to swabs and then on the back-end, reagents and help stand up every single one of our laboratory instruments, and then dedicated private sector partners and public health personnel to make sure that they could take samples from individuals — all paid for so there is no barrier to getting tested.

We were one of the first states to say asymptomatic individuals need to be tested, so that allowed us to do rapid responses. We go out immediately to a business or an organization that's got an infection. We clean it up, we work with them, we often close them down. We test everybody so that we can manage a spread, which is how, even when the rest of the bordering states were having the kind community spread that you can't get ahead of or control, we were able to crush our curve again.

I want to just say, for the record, I despise competing with other states. The notion that a New Mexico family or individual is more important and more valuable to protect then someone in Texas is untenable, which is why not having a federal effort and response and strategy is malpractice.

Do you think schools will be able to reopen this fall?

We think we're going to be the first state in the nation to be able to show a very limited, hybrid K-5 in-person education approach that really mitigates risk to students and educators and their families. I'm cautiously optimistic that we're gonna be able to do that effectively because of our Covid success.


In the unfolding pandemic, economic crisis and reckoning on race, governors and mayors are shaping our shared future. Who are the power players, and how are they driving politics and influencing Washington?

What about Indigenous people who live in New Mexico — they have been struggling with some of the highest Covid rates in the country?

Sovereign nations were working with a federal effort not the state effort, because they're forced to. The whole Navajo Nation is also dealing with Utah and Arizona. Those are very different state strategies. They have no running water, electricity and are in multi-generational households. This explains why they were the most at risk, and they deserved a much better federal response. We've been really good partners, and I appreciate their leadership. Sovereign nations in New Mexico have been in basic lock-down in their communities, and it could have been far worse, but I'm upset about every single life lost in this state.

Do you think Biden should be doing more to reach Latino voters?

I'm gonna broaden your question. I hope you don't mind. Most candidates have not really engaged the growing Hispanic communities and Latino communities across the country. And that requires not just a national effort, but a state by state, community by community effort. We're seeing the largest population group are young Latino, Hispanic voters and workers. We need to address policies that are very specific to their ability to meet and reach the American dream. Immigration is a very complex complicating factor here. We've not been, I don't think, as a nation, really engaging that.

Each of us, that's me included, for the Biden campaign, I have to reach beyond my state comfort zone. We've got to reach into other states. So I've been doing that: Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, California, Nevada, Arizona, Texas. We need to do more of that. While 70-plus days [until the November election] is tricky, it's doable, and I hope that we don't lose momentum.

Every American should feel important. But when you're a community of color that has been left behind by any number of elected leaders, particularly this person, the current person occupying the White House, then I hope that they build in time.

What do you think Biden should do to reach this group with the time he has left in the campaign?

If you get a chance to speak to Joe Biden, you feel like he's talking to you directly. It's the first name basis. I have no doubt he wins your vote. We need him to be able to do as much of that in the Covid world as possible. And I certainly know he's up to the task.

I think he should be right in El Paso talking with you and other elected leaders and that constituent members about what El Pasoins deserve, particularly as an immigration city, about what policies and strategies need to be undertaken as a priority to make a difference in your lives immediately.
 

Medfinder

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61,782 (1%)
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St. Phatty

Active member
Virginia's about to make Vaccines mandatory.

b i g m i s t a k e.

not because I'm anti-science - because the US biotech industry itself is anti-science.

they have a LOOONG history of ignorring Adverse Events (death, disability, & other injuries). "that data doesn't exist."

like Trump, the US biotech industry rejects data it doesn't like.

That isn't science.
 

Im'One

Active member
We have been through this before.
Tuberculosis was a scourge and adequate protocols were put in place including forces quarantine and jail time for noncompliance. All the constitutional issues were worked out and decided in federal court.
I went back to work two weeks ago, the support staff came back monday and by Friday we had a positive case among the lower paid assistants who love going out partying, hanging out in others workspaces against directions, pulling masks off "to breathe" etc.
Now half dozen of us are quarantined for fourteen days. One aide, a pastor's wife plans to attend a big wedding this weekend. She tested negative so I guess she figured why not?
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91

Sunshineinabag

Active member
Virginia's about to make Vaccines mandatory.

b i g m i s t a k e.

not because I'm anti-science - because the US biotech industry itself is anti-science.

they have a LOOONG history of ignorring Adverse Events (death, disability, & other injuries). "that data doesn't exist."

like Trump, the US biotech industry rejects data it doesn't like.

That isn't science.

Let me guess it's being made by Purdue pharma? Lol
 

Swamp Thang

Well-known member
Veteran
One aide, a pastor's wife plans to attend a big wedding this weekend. She tested negative so I guess she figured why not?

As a pastor's wife in good standing, that lady is probably privileged to have saved several direct contact speed-dial numbers for the bearded gentlemen relaxing up there amid the cumulo-nimbus cloud formations, whereby all risks associated with her behavior, can be mitigated with a simple phone call or email.
 

Treevly

Active member
No Covid vaccine before winter of 2021, warns Chief Medical Officer

Chris Whitty says it could take another year before a safe vaccine is developed and ready for widespread distribution.
By Patrick Sawer, Telegraph Senior News Reporter 23 August 2020 • 12:03am
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The Chief Medical Officer has warned the UK it is unlikely there will be a vaccine to deal with coronavirus before the winter of 2021.

Chris Whitty has warned the public it could take another year before a safe vaccine is developed and ready for widespread distribution.

He said he would be “surprised” if an effective vaccine which could be used for most of the population would be ready before this Christmas.

Professor Whitty’s words of warning will come as a disappointment to people hoping the development of a vaccine would soon allow the country to return to normal after the upheaval, restrictions and economic chaos caused by the Covid-19 pandemic.

They will also come as a sober reminder to the country that more people are likely to die from the virus before an effective vaccine is found. Coronavirus has so far claimed the lives of 41,405 people Britain and 803,41 worldwide.

Professor Whitty said: “I would obviously be delighted if it came earlier rather than later but I’d be quite surprised if we had a highly effective vaccine ready for mass use in a large percentage of the population before the end of winter, certainly before this side of Christmas.”

He added: “I think it is unlikely we will have a vaccine that is highly effective and ready to deploy at scale this winter meaning 2020/21. I think there is a reasonable chance that we will have vaccines, not a certainty, in the period before the following winter of 2021/22.”


Researchers around the world are working to develop a vaccine against Covid-19, with more than 170 candidate vaccines now being monitored by the World Health Organization (WHO).

But during a pooled interview for Sunday newspapers the CMO explained that scientists have to make sure a vaccine, even if developed quickly, is safe, and that takes time.

“A lot of people are doing a huge amount scientifically, logistically to . . . try and see if we can get a vaccine at extraordinarily fast speed,” he said. “But we have to check it works and we have to make sure it’s safe and these things do take time.

“We should plan on the basis we will not have a vaccine and then if one does prove to be effective and safe and available then we’re in a strong position to be able to use it and that will be great but we should be planning on the basis of what we currently have.

Professor Whitty said it was becoming increasingly clear that young people were behind much of the recent increase in Covid infections in areas such as Oldham, Pendle, Blackburn and other parts of the north west, where new tougher restrictions were introduced from Saturday.


Professor Whitty said: “Certainly what we’ve seen in most countries is that it spreads through younger people and then it starts to move up the age bands.

“Younger people, for example, who’ve got friends that work in care homes or work in healthcare settings, then it starts to lead to cases in people who are much more vulnerable and that’s the point where you start to see significant long term health implications and sometimes sadly deaths.”

He added that growing infection among young people brought with it the risk of increased fatalities among older people and those with pre-existing conditions.

“The worry is that if rates start to increase again and you only have to look around the world, across North America, in Europe, in Asia now, in Latin America, that actually significant increases after having got on top of things are extraordinarily easy to happen if we’re not very very careful,” said Professor Whitty.

“If that happens, as the surge happens, it will move up the age groups to people who have got pre-existing health conditions and you would go back to seeing a situation where the numbers of people going to hospital are increasing and the numbers of people subsequently, sadly, dying increasing.”

However the CMO did say there was cause for growing optimism in the search for effective treatments for coronavirus, such as the steroid Dexamethasone, which significantly reduces mortality in people who have severe disease.

“Those studies are ongoing and I’m hoping for more results like that in the next months. But new drugs coming through, there’s now a significant pipeline, but you never know which ones are going to work, so we’ll just have to wait and see. But I’m confident in the long term in the ability of science to get us out of this hole, but I don’t think we can expect it to happen in the next few weeks or even the next few months,” he added.
 

mr.brunch

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Veteran
I think people don’t trust bill gates because he’s far too fckin rich.
I’m all for people being wealthy if they earned it, but once you are richer than whole countries, it kind of illustrates the problems with capitalism.
Is it any wonder some countries hate the west? They see mega rich people like him acting all enlightened, while people are literally starving to death.

Fwiw, I don’t think there’s any big ‘vaccination conspiracy’ , but I’m not keen on the lofty attitude From someone who basically got lucky.
 

aridbud

automeister
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Here's link to that movie.......

All to think for ourselves out here you know what i mean...

https://plandemicseries.com/



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Science fact-checked the video. None of these claims are true!!! The video is an excerpt from Plandemic, which promises to “expose the scientific and political elite who run the scam that is our global health system.” YouTube, Facebook, and other platforms have taken down the video because of inaccuracies.

I'll stick with Dr. Fauci and our Dept of Health.
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
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61,661 (1%)
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herbgreen

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Veteran
Well, after Dr Fauci lied to us and told us not use masks early on so he could retain the stock of PPE for workers...

He admitted that's what he did and in NYC for weeks people could have been wearing masks

Alot of people dead and sick masks could have prevented

Its about information and thinking for yourself out here I posted link to the debunking of the video I think we cant Not know stuff

Fauci is full of shit sometimes and he proved it by his own words

I dont know what to believe at this point

Get all the information you can Wear a good mask a surgical mask

Trump and fauci are saying get a 'cloth' mask to preserve PPE for workers thats half measure

surgical masks fit better and filter more Use UV sunlight to re-use

We are not being told the whole story

Free thinkers get all the information and then figure it out for themselves

Yes, we must be sceptical of ALL info



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mr.brunch

Well-known member
Veteran
I expect the ppe thing in USA was the same situation as Here in the uk:
they denied that masks helped, then said we must preserve them for medical people - just to give their donors companies enough time to ramp up production of ppe.
Exploiting the crisis was always going to happen.
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
Can someone buy some Northern California land after these fires are put out?

99 plant limits's...

And Eradication of Covid 19 ?
 
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