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Coronavirus.. outlook

Medfinder

Chemon 91
Coronavirus Cases:
8,028,325
view by country
Deaths:
436,279
Recovered:
4,148,301
ACTIVE CASES
3,443,745
Currently Infected Patients
3,389,207 (98%)
in Mild Condition

54,538 (2%)
Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
4,584,580
Cases which had an outcome:
4,148,301 (90%)
Recovered / Discharged

436,279 (10%)
Deaths:comfort:
 

aridbud

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It'll continue and likely spike with demonstrations.
 

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aridbud

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To reach herd immunity for COVID-19, likely 70% or more of the population would need to be immune. Without a vaccine, over 200 million Americans would have to get infected before we reach this threshold. Put another way, even if the current pace of the COVID-19 pandemic continues in the United States – with over 25,000 confirmed cases a day – it will be well into 2021 before we reach herd immunity. If current daily death rates continue, over half a million Americans would be dead from COVID-19 by that time.

Source: Johns Hopkins
 

armedoldhippy

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Veteran
you are assuming that surviving it grants immunity. far from known at this point, and lots of survivors still have big problems. if you catch it a second time & are already weakened by the first time...
 

St. Phatty

Active member
at some point, it becomes obvious that Covid19 is not a crisis of a disease itself.

the crisis is the terrible ham-handed responses practiced by nations like Pakistan, Brazil, and the US - each of whom has male leaders that refuse to wear face masks.

the disease itself is very fucking serious, but also very treat-able.

what would the US do if it was hit by a REAL crisis ?


the crisis is bad management, on top of bad management, on top of more bad management.

after a while, i find myself "rooting" for the virus. let it infect the pResident - and the cops - and every bad county manager.


today i was at the courthouse using the library and there was a middle aged black guy.

i asked him if he was interested in learning more about Covid19.

he said yes, and i gave him Dr. John Campbell's youtube info.

i wasn't quite up for telling an African American i didn't know, that he was low on Vitamin D and simply needed to take Vitamin D.
 

Klompen

Active member
To reach herd immunity for COVID-19, likely 70% or more of the population would need to be immune. Without a vaccine, over 200 million Americans would have to get infected before we reach this threshold. Put another way, even if the current pace of the COVID-19 pandemic continues in the United States – with over 25,000 confirmed cases a day – it will be well into 2021 before we reach herd immunity. If current daily death rates continue, over half a million Americans would be dead from COVID-19 by that time.

Source: Johns Hopkins

That is if herd immunity is even truly possible. This disease seems to jump species pretty readily and we've already seen dozens of variants of the virus(9 identified in California alone). There's a lot of reason to worry that we'll not reach herd immunity any time soon because there's too many incompatible variants to create a uniform herd immunity. Antibodies to one strain may not help at all with others. Even antibodies from the same strain may only stay in the body for 2-3 years if SARS-1 is any indication.

This is worth the read:

https://www.cambridge.org/engage/coe/article-details/5ead2b518d7bf7001951c5a5
 

St. Phatty

Active member
so how much of the problems Covid19 has, with blood chemistry & blood clotting, is related to certain patients taking certain medications ?

i have a feeling the American medical industry is not in a hurry to investigate the subject.

They just want more $1 Million Covid19 patients.


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"On Monday, there were 2,326 people hospitalized with COVID-19 in Texas, a new high, according to the state health department’s website."

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a $230 million order ! ! !


https://www.dallasnews.com/news/pub...wearing-masks-taking-coronavirus-too-lightly/


no wonder they aren't handing out preventive medications.
 

Im'One

Active member
I was at ACE hardware small town oklahoma today...25 people in the store and im the only dumass wearing a mask. One old fucker was making some comments just close enough to me that he knew i could hear. I got my shit and got gone.
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
In the association i live an elderly person was rushed by ambulance to an hospital this past week..
Diagnosed with Covid 19..

The manager of the complex is fighting stage 3 cancer...



COVID-19 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC
Last updated: June 16, 2020, 14:47 GMT
Graphs - Countries - Death Rate - Symptoms - Incubation - Transmission - News
Coronavirus Cases:
8,156,264
view by country
Deaths:
440,228
Recovered:
4,259,297
ACTIVE CASES
3,456,739
Currently Infected Patients
3,402,114 (98%)
in Mild Condition

54,625 (2%)
Serious or Critical
Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
4,699,525
Cases which had an outcome:
4,259,297 (91%)
Recovered / Discharged

440,228 (9%)
Deaths:comfort:
 

aridbud

automeister
ICMag Donor
Veteran
That is if herd immunity is even truly possible. This disease seems to jump species pretty readily and we've already seen dozens of variants of the virus(9 identified in California alone). There's a lot of reason to worry that we'll not reach herd immunity any time soon because there's too many incompatible variants to create a uniform herd immunity. Antibodies to one strain may not help at all with others. Even antibodies from the same strain may only stay in the body for 2-3 years if SARS-1 is any indication.

This is worth the read:

https://www.cambridge.org/engage/coe/article-details/5ead2b518d7bf7001951c5a5

Maybe I wasn't clear. I don't believe the "herd" mentality. I'm waiting for a reliable vaccine. Meantime, limit exposure, wear mask, wash hands.
 

Klompen

Active member
The bad news is that no one has made a completely functional vaccine for a corona virus.... ever.

The closest anyone has come to vaccines are IBV(Infectious Bronchitis Virus), TGEV, and Canine CoV. All of these only worked because the specific virus involved is not a fast-evolving one. SARS-COV-2 is on the upper end of the pack when it comes to mutations...
 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
Take vitamins C and D, Lomation via LDM-100, get out in the sun, and do some work.

I broke down and got vaccinated yesterday... hehe...

Hadn't had a tetanus shot is way too long, and I got a dirty cut. That and some anti-biotics, are as close as a needle is getting to this old bag of bones.
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
4000IU Vitamin D3

Vitamin K also plays a role.
K1 you get from leafy greens and other vegetables.
K2 you get from meats, cheese & eggs.
So basically, eat well and eat healthy for once in your life.

I know, it can be expensive to eat healthy. Do it anyway at least until next spring. Then you can go back to your Ramen.
 

Klompen

Active member
Take vitamins C and D, Lomation via LDM-100, get out in the sun, and do some work.

I broke down and got vaccinated yesterday... hehe...

Hadn't had a tetanus shot is way too long, and I got a dirty cut. That and some anti-biotics, are as close as a needle is getting to this old bag of bones.

Tetanus is no joke though for real! At my old muzzle loader club, this one guy was firing at a paper target and hit the berm behind it. Inside that berm was a chunk of rock with some rebar in it. The bullet went through some dirt, hit that rebar, ricocheted, and then came back and slashed his cheek a little. He got tetanus from that and nearly died from it. Granted he was an old war vet who had been through a lot of rough times in life, but that still just stunned all of us at the club. Tetanus is basically everywhere and highly toxic.
 

Klompen

Active member
Also, for those who think they're too big and tough for medical care; I always have to remind them of the story of Sigurd Eysteinsson, who was killed by the teeth of a severed head.

"His death was said to have been caused by the severed head of Máel Brigte, whom Sigurd defeated in battle.[1] As he rode a horse with Máel Brigte's head attached to his saddle as a trophy, one of Máel Brigte's teeth grazed against Sigurd's leg. The wound became infected, later causing Sigurd's death."
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
MARIE-BELLE (31) IS IN CORONA MONTH THREE: 'I'VE NEVER BEEN SO SICK'


Marie-belle Munten (31) from Den Bosch has been home for three months with corona complaints. She is working on her rehabilitation, but that turns out to be a bigger deal than expected.
The first complaints arrive in mid-March: sore throat, cough and intense headache. Munten has a management function and works (at home) to guide her company through the new corona measures. Her health continues to falter until she stops breathing between meetings.

Orders from the GP: stop work immediately and take absolute rest. Coins: “I was hopeful. At that time, RIVM expected that you would be able to return to work (without hospitalization) after about three weeks without any complaints. Well, not so. Corona can also be very pithy without hospitalization . ”

She spends forty-three days in bed. A good friend from the neighborhood helps her with groceries, visits to the doctor and the hospital and preparing meals. In terms of food, it does not have much work for her: Coins have no smell and taste for weeks, so her appetite is minimal. She loses seven pounds of weight and muscle mass.

Her partner works as a nurse at the Army and is deployed in the intensive care unit of the Ikazia hospital in Rotterdam during the height of the crisis. He is much absent. “Many people asked me if that was allowed, if it was safe to let him work in intensive care. Because he practiced an essential profession, he was allowed to come to work as long as he had no fever or complaints. Fortunately, he did not get infected. ”

OCCUPATIONAL PHYSICIAN
During that period he worked quite long days and Coins mainly spoke to him at night when he returned from his evening shift. He really wanted to talk about the things he had experienced that day before he could sleep. "I thought it was intense at the time that he was gone so much, but I am glad that he was able to do such important work."

On days when she feels a little better, she tries to work. “Colleagues said I looked pretty good while I felt the complete opposite. It proved quite difficult to keep track of work, I soon got too much on my plate. You want so badly, but it doesn't work. Then I called in a company doctor who could guide me in this. ”

REVALIDATION
Munten has now started rehabilitation: she is assisted by a physiotherapist with various muscle and breathing exercises. “Unfortunately, there is no handbook for corona rehabilitation. You have to figure out how to do it yourself. My immune system and condition are in trouble, you don't just have them back. That is why I keep in touch with other corona patients via a Facebook group. We share tips and experiences with each other. It is nice to know that you are not the only one who is still in bed with palpitations and headaches after weeks. ”

Since mid-May, Munten has slowly returned to work at home. Under the guidance of the company doctor, she now works four days a week, three hours a day. “Normally I work fifty hours a week without effort because I like it so much. So this rhythm is crazy for me, but if I oppose my recovery it will only take longer. Now I get half an hour a day every week, as long as it goes well. ”

IGNORANCE
It may take months before she can return to normal work, according to the company doctor. Coins: “I just really have no idea what it will be. I hope to work again in September, but the fear is that it will take longer. Will I still be the old one? Do I get the energy back to keep all balls high again? That ignorance is a fear in itself. ”

She is aware that she has been lucky: no hospitalization, no intensive care and the people around her have not been infected. Still, the corona doesn't put her in the cold clothes. “I've never been so sick, a few times I really thought I was going out. You can't breathe and think, okay, now I'm going to choke. That is a very bizarre experience, especially if you are largely alone at home. You miss someone who is with you and takes care of you. ”
 

St. Phatty

Active member
and people think that the 95% who were infectious & have antibodies are "protected" because they didn't have a bad reaction at first.

that's not the way Herpes works.

i suspect that Covid19 has some Curve-balls up its sleeve.
 
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