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Thanx Kizzattack
Thanx Kizzattack
Great link for the complete video !
Thanx Kizzattack
Kizzattack said:
Great link for the complete video !
I downloaded the video for free. IMO the video was interesting and most useful, if you're a fledging drug smuggler. It shows how he profiles drivers, and where they hide their stash. The video and his forums also has some interesting info, though brief, about how smell permeates from a container and how a dog would smell it. Someone suggested a "vapour-proof" bag (would that really work?).
All in all, I think the whole video could be summed up in less than 5 minutes. Not worth the money unless your purpose is to show support.
All in all, I think the whole video could be summed up in less than 5 minutes. Not worth the money unless your purpose is to show support.
So for us dialup cowboys who can't download the video.....How about someone who has watched it relay on some of the advice? Does the guy give any reccomendations on driving with your stash? I know that coffee doesn't cover up smell and that ziplock bags don't hold smell. So what does he reccomend? Vaccum sealed bags? Would bleach get rid of smell? What good info does he say about the dogs?
FrankRizzo
Listen to me jerky
He talks about how all of the methods that you mentioned can fall. The way a dog smells is so much more advanced than ours. Therefore things like bleach don't really matter. While I don't remember the whole thing off the top of my head, heres one I can. He talks about putting your stash up high, the higher the better. He talks about using our headliner since it is much higher than the dogs nose. The closer to the middle of the car the better too. I'll watch it again soon and try to put some more ideas up.
GrassRoots
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It's been a while but I recall that he wants you to conceal in a tough to reach place like under the dash and he recommends that you consent to a search if you are asked (assuming you hid your stash well). I think he says that the smell will permiate (sp?) just about anything but he might have said that you should store in glass. He recommended wearing rubber gloves when your packaging your stash so that you don't get the smell rubbed onto your fingers and then onto the container. In my opinion the video was not worth buying (which I didn't) but worth watching. It was reiterating a lot of stuff most of us probably know already but I remember thinking a few of the tips were new info (like the latex gloves that I mentioned above). Hope everyone is having a great day.
Chester
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The cheap food service gloves will avoid that fingerprint issue. Your hands will sweat though.
As far as how to seal the odor, thicker, more expensive plastic bags (3 or 4 mil) will give you more time, but the odor will eventually permeate through. Cheap sandwich bags (1 mil) breathe more than you might think. You could also over-bag your bags just before transport. That will give you maximum time.
In any case, never consent to a search. The odds are in your favor that if they search after you refuse, they will make a procedural mistake. After all, LEO is out of practice in doing things the legal way these days.
As far as how to seal the odor, thicker, more expensive plastic bags (3 or 4 mil) will give you more time, but the odor will eventually permeate through. Cheap sandwich bags (1 mil) breathe more than you might think. You could also over-bag your bags just before transport. That will give you maximum time.
In any case, never consent to a search. The odds are in your favor that if they search after you refuse, they will make a procedural mistake. After all, LEO is out of practice in doing things the legal way these days.
actually it is the cheap food service gloves that I am talking about. I thought they were latex but now looking at the box again they are vinyl. Fingerprints deffinately go right through. Even 2 pairs still goes right through. I just wrap all my fingertips with electrical tape and then put on the gloves. Then there isn't a problem.
Regular plastic bags are not very good. Lots of people in california area use the turkey bags, the bags that you cook a turkey in the oven with. They are supposed to hold smell in better than a regular ziplock.
I use foodsaver vacuum sealed bags. 3 seperate bags, sealed 3 times at each end of each bag....soaked in bleach water the last 2 layers.....change your sets of gloves after each step and do the last sealing outside or in a sterile room.
Regular plastic bags are not very good. Lots of people in california area use the turkey bags, the bags that you cook a turkey in the oven with. They are supposed to hold smell in better than a regular ziplock.
I use foodsaver vacuum sealed bags. 3 seperate bags, sealed 3 times at each end of each bag....soaked in bleach water the last 2 layers.....change your sets of gloves after each step and do the last sealing outside or in a sterile room.
brief overview
brief overview
About the smell,
He says that no matter how much packing and insulation, eventually the odor will permeate through each of those things allowing the dog to pick it up.
If you pack your stash in something like a small glass jar RIGHT BEFORE you leave, a dog will probably not pick it up if the jar is cleaned and you used gloves.
It's a time issue.
Keep joints or the like up high in the middle of the vehicle increasing the distance between the stash and the dog walking around your car. Do NOT hide anything on the outside of your vehicle. Small trapdoors in the floor are good for ditching small bits of anything before you come to a stop. Done properly it will look like road debris. The guy also says a double bedliner in a pickup created one of the best stealth compartments he's seen. They do a knock test on one side with their other hand flat on the other side to see if something feels hollow. With a stuck tailgate, piggy might not be able to reach the bottom and the top of the truck bed.
Dont use cars with temporary plates. Don't avoid eye contact with parked LEO. If you look like a college kid, or other kind of stoner they will take a harder look at you. Absolutely no D.A.R.E stickers, dead giveaway. No stupid "I support local law enforcement" stickers. I wouldn't decorate the outside at all.
He says to allow a search if you have your stash hidden well, but I don't know if I'd trust that. If LEO thinks you have weed and you refuse a search, he can get the dog to walk around your car. If you let him search and you have hidden it well enough, you might get away. Of course, if you have nothing on you and get pulled over, deny a search all day long. Never let them search when you have nothing illegal.
He says cops will try to get the dog to false indicate by using words to trigger excitement in the dog like "skit it, skit it, skit it" A false indication is all he needs to screw you.
And NEVER touch your head or your hair when talking to a cop, especially when you get out of the car. They look for that.
That's most of what I remember anyway.
EDIT: Also don't get caught up when the cop starts talking casually to you. If you are asked out of the vehicle, he already suspects something and is looking for anything else he can use to get a warrant. Cops are never your friend and are never trying to "help you out" of a bad situation. And a good rule of thumb is to not travel with more than you can eat in the time it takes to get pulled over.
brief overview
About the smell,
He says that no matter how much packing and insulation, eventually the odor will permeate through each of those things allowing the dog to pick it up.
If you pack your stash in something like a small glass jar RIGHT BEFORE you leave, a dog will probably not pick it up if the jar is cleaned and you used gloves.
It's a time issue.
Keep joints or the like up high in the middle of the vehicle increasing the distance between the stash and the dog walking around your car. Do NOT hide anything on the outside of your vehicle. Small trapdoors in the floor are good for ditching small bits of anything before you come to a stop. Done properly it will look like road debris. The guy also says a double bedliner in a pickup created one of the best stealth compartments he's seen. They do a knock test on one side with their other hand flat on the other side to see if something feels hollow. With a stuck tailgate, piggy might not be able to reach the bottom and the top of the truck bed.
Dont use cars with temporary plates. Don't avoid eye contact with parked LEO. If you look like a college kid, or other kind of stoner they will take a harder look at you. Absolutely no D.A.R.E stickers, dead giveaway. No stupid "I support local law enforcement" stickers. I wouldn't decorate the outside at all.
He says to allow a search if you have your stash hidden well, but I don't know if I'd trust that. If LEO thinks you have weed and you refuse a search, he can get the dog to walk around your car. If you let him search and you have hidden it well enough, you might get away. Of course, if you have nothing on you and get pulled over, deny a search all day long. Never let them search when you have nothing illegal.
He says cops will try to get the dog to false indicate by using words to trigger excitement in the dog like "skit it, skit it, skit it" A false indication is all he needs to screw you.
And NEVER touch your head or your hair when talking to a cop, especially when you get out of the car. They look for that.
That's most of what I remember anyway.
EDIT: Also don't get caught up when the cop starts talking casually to you. If you are asked out of the vehicle, he already suspects something and is looking for anything else he can use to get a warrant. Cops are never your friend and are never trying to "help you out" of a bad situation. And a good rule of thumb is to not travel with more than you can eat in the time it takes to get pulled over.
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What is the deal with touching your head/hair? Do you remember if he mentions anything about having it locked in something making it harder to get at? like a safe or the glovebox or a truck bed lockbox or trunk? I guess if the dog comes and smells it you are ****ed locked or not.
FRANKENBLUNT420
me blunt is like, wicked yo!! owight
he explained alot of it, in one of this months magazine issues (hightimes, skunk,cannabis culture i forget which one) he talked about how a dog smells the same way we see, just like we can separate colors better than smells/odors, dogs can separate various smells/ odors.
well i guess it would be common sense for those who comonly smuggle or mail. its not common for me since i dont commonly mail this stuff, so its worth it to me
as far as him being a LEO b4 he became enlightened, hey better late than never, and what a better person to have on the side of teh righteous.
now if there is anyone i really friggin cant stand it was that, lil' funny lookin , mullet cut having bastard that works for the DEA, and for whatever reason he can see/separate the color of weed from all other greens of other plants in a dense setting. i forgot where i saw teh video, but alotta out door grows took massive bust hits.
well i guess it would be common sense for those who comonly smuggle or mail. its not common for me since i dont commonly mail this stuff, so its worth it to me
as far as him being a LEO b4 he became enlightened, hey better late than never, and what a better person to have on the side of teh righteous.
now if there is anyone i really friggin cant stand it was that, lil' funny lookin , mullet cut having bastard that works for the DEA, and for whatever reason he can see/separate the color of weed from all other greens of other plants in a dense setting. i forgot where i saw teh video, but alotta out door grows took massive bust hits.
On these bust videos, the guilty guys would touch their head after they stepped out of the car. A nervous reaction or something. There weren't any videos of innocent people to compare to, but he says it's very common.
I dont remember anything about locked containers but I think it would stand out to an officer looking for anything suspicious. For instance if you have a locked briefcase but arent wearing a business suit. Avoid the glove compartment.
It's best to have your registration clipped on to the visor or something for quick n easy access.
I dont remember anything about locked containers but I think it would stand out to an officer looking for anything suspicious. For instance if you have a locked briefcase but arent wearing a business suit. Avoid the glove compartment.
It's best to have your registration clipped on to the visor or something for quick n easy access.
If I were you, and I've become vindictive over the past few year. Do what ever you can within the limits of the law to get falsely arrested and imprisoned. If the simple act of scratching my head lands me on the ground getting my ass kicked by the cops then that's what I shall do.
I would only attempt this if you have nothing to hide, or not holding anything.
I'm serious. If you can get the cops to make a mistake that lands you a few 1000 dollars I would go for it. I'm not saying I have done it, but they sure have tried to blame the whole thing on me.
It I had been able to keep my wits, and the cop had any sense, they wouldn't have this issue. Being scared from behind, and crammed into a K-9, long story, it enough to cause anyone to lose it. All the cops had to do was run the license plate to get all the information they needed. I guy who can't breathe can;t answer questions or think properly. I know. I've been there.
I would only attempt this if you have nothing to hide, or not holding anything.
I'm serious. If you can get the cops to make a mistake that lands you a few 1000 dollars I would go for it. I'm not saying I have done it, but they sure have tried to blame the whole thing on me.
It I had been able to keep my wits, and the cop had any sense, they wouldn't have this issue. Being scared from behind, and crammed into a K-9, long story, it enough to cause anyone to lose it. All the cops had to do was run the license plate to get all the information they needed. I guy who can't breathe can;t answer questions or think properly. I know. I've been there.
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th3gr33ncur3
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yeah I wan tthis video !
