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Cool tubes drippin with moisture?

Power13

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So i have a vertical system, with 3 600's in cool tubes stacked on top of each other. Air cooling wise, its awesome. I have a fan above them sucking outside air from an intake in the attic. It is then pushing this air though them, and then finally another fan pulls it back into the attic.

This room is completely sealed, with just the lights being air cooled. Co2 is added to this room via a bottle. There is an a/c box with a 5k btu to provide cooling, but so far it barely every comes on. RH in the room runs about 60-70% during lights on. There is insulated ducting on everything in the room (that was my first thought, and although it helped, its still not nearly enough).

My problem is the high humidity outside. I run my lights at night when temps are lowest outside. Unfortunately the RH outside (where i pull air from) is also the highest around that time. Usually 60-90%. The temp is super cold usually, like about 50F.

All of this come together to form a high humidity micro environment right on the cool tubes themselves. When the air is on, there is a shitload of condensation on the oustide of the glass for all 3 cool tubes, although the closest to the fan is worst.

When i say a lot, I mean the entire cool tube is covered in water droplets, to where i can't see the bulb inside. Now luckily its all on the outside, so I am not too worried about this starting a fire. My main problem is that its covering my nice 600's, and therefore blocking their light output.

So far, the only solution I have come up with, is to plug my intake and exhaust fans into the same thermostat as my a/c. This basically runs everything only when the room heats up. This is working for now, but I'm sure that in the summer with higher temps, it won't hold up. Cool tubes are supposed to be constantly exhausted, in order to keep temps low. I've even tried slowing down my intake fan, by way of a dimmer switch. This also helped, but also at the cost of heat.
 

NorCalFor20

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You probably won't have that problem this summer when the air coming in is not as cold. I don't know what to tell you do to to fix it besides some way raise the temp of the incoming air or maybe use air from inside your house instead of outside air.
 

alphaguru

Member
thats pretty much all you can do


and that is probably way more efficient

why move the air unless its hot enough that it requires so


had a similar problem and there wasnt anything we could figure out

best of luck
 

Me2

Member
There only a few ways i can see,
Option one is to reduce the RH in the room, which forces the dewpoint lower so you can run cooler air through the cooltube without water condensing on the outside of the tube.
Option two is to increase the temperature of the air running through the cooltube so it stays above the dewpoint of the air in the room. The higher the rooms RH, the higher the dewpoint temp.
Option three is to generate an upward flow of air over the surface of the cool tubes to create a boundary effect which will help prevent the room air from coming into contact with the cold cooltube for more than a few milliseconds..the problem is that air drops to dewpoint pretty fast with a large temperature difference driving it. The other plus with the airflow is it may re-evaporate at least some of the water providing additional boundary evaporative cooling which in turn helps reduce the temperature difference of the room air and the cold glass boundary layer still further.

Solving it completely will be difficult but trying some of these measures should help.

Heres a few examples,
If your room air is 80F with 60% RH, the cooltube surface needs to be kept above 65F.
If you run room air at 70F and 50%RH, the cooltube surface only needs to be above 51F to prevent room air from reaching dewpoint.
 

Power13

Member
Thanks guys, so far the raising cool tube air temps works, and so does lowering the RH in the room. 50% and below works well. So far a fan blowing at the cool tubes has not worked. I actually have 3 12" fans blowing at them.
 

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