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Gry

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Mr Logan may be more articulate than the gent with the hand written message on the truck.
 

'Boogieman'

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I remember when Bernie Sanders was praising Venezuela, whatever happened there... 👀

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Cannavore

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You must have a really shit memory because he never "praised Venezuela"

nor is Venezuela a socialist economy for this 30,000th time.

nor is Bernie Sanders a socialist



I'm trying to help you doorknobs understand but none of you can seem to see past your own confirmation bias.
 

'Boogieman'

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You must have a really shit memory because he never "praised Venezuela"

nor is Venezuela a socialist economy for this 30,000th time.

nor is Bernie Sanders a socialist



I'm trying to help you doorknobs understand but none of you can seem to see past your own confirmation bias.

They voted for socialism, they received a dictatorship. Once the richest country, now they eat from dumpsters. Let's not do that to our country, that is the point im making.
 

armedoldhippy

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They voted for socialism, they received a dictatorship. Once the richest country, now they eat from dumpsters. Let's not do that to our country, that is the point im making.

they were never "the richest country." at one time they were the richest country in South America, but look at the competition, lol...we got folks eating from dumpsters here, too.
 

Hammerhead

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Cities stop people from eating good food companies toss. It happens all the time. As I've said all along Trumplicans will say anything that makes anyone else look bad.. Most of what they say is total BS and they don't care.

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Cannavore

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They voted for socialism, they received a dictatorship. Once the richest country, now they eat from dumpsters. Let's not do that to our country, that is the point im making.

Lets not base our entire economy around oil exportation and then run out of oil? Ok I got it.

You do realize the CIA has been overthrowing and installing governments in countries like Venezuela for a long time right? That's why countries like that end up nationalizing resources... So they don't get coup'd by the CIA at the behest of US transnational corporations.

Socialism didnt destroy Venezuela. Capitalism did.
 

'Boogieman'

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they were never "the richest country." at one time they were the richest country in South America, but look at the competition, lol...we got folks eating from dumpsters here, too.

The entire country is starving, not even comparable to the United States, not even close.
 

'Boogieman'

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Lets not base our entire economy around oil exportation and then run out of oil? Ok I got it.

You do realize the CIA has been overthrowing and installing governments in countries like Venezuela for a long time right? That's why countries like that end up nationalizing resources... So they don't get coup'd by the CIA at the behest of US transnational corporations.

Socialism didnt destroy Venezuela. Capitalism did.

They voted for socialism, they received a dictatorship. They would be much better off if Maduro wasn't in power and capitalism was still the economic standard.
 

armedoldhippy

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They voted for socialism, they received a dictatorship. They would be much better off if Maduro wasn't in power and capitalism was still the economic standard.

i'll have to partly agree this time. nationalizing the oil industry just gave the money to Maduro & friends versus Exxon etc stealing it. 6 of 1, half a dozen of the other...
 

dramamine

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i'll have to partly agree this time. nationalizing the oil industry just gave the money to Maduro & friends versus Exxon etc stealing it. 6 of 1, half a dozen of the other...

What money are you referring to? There's no oil money for "Maduro and friends" to get, since Venezuela was sanctioned from selling their oil and every other country sanctioned from buying it. You see it differently?
 

armedoldhippy

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What money are you referring to? There's no oil money for "Maduro and friends" to get, since Venezuela was sanctioned from selling their oil and every other country sanctioned from buying it. You see it differently?

our sanctions mean exactly not shit to countries like Russia, China, North Korea et al. we cannot stop them from selling it, nor anyone else from buying it if they want to. there are no US naval vessels sitting out from their ports preventing it. if there was no money coming in, Maduro & cronies would be gone. yeah, i "see" it differently...
 

dramamine

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our sanctions mean exactly not shit to countries like Russia, China, North Korea et al. we cannot stop them from selling it, nor anyone else from buying it if they want to. there are no US naval vessels sitting out from their ports preventing it. if there was no money coming in, Maduro & cronies would be gone. yeah, i "see" it differently...

They are making a small fraction of what they made when they sold oil on the open market. You're overstating it when you say the sanctions don't mean shit to, especially, China. They have been buying Venezuelan oil again, but basically trying to keep shipments out of sight. Venezuela is barely bringing in enough money to hold itself together. I haven't seen any evidence at all that Maduro is making himself or others wealthy, although that is the prevailing propaganda regarding him. If I understand you, you're saying he only came into power to skim oil money? Based on what? Opinion pieces?
 
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armedoldhippy

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They are making a small fraction of what they made when they sold oil on the open market. You're overstating it when you say the sanctions don't mean shit to, especially, China. They have been buying Venezuelan oil again, but basically trying to keep shipments out of sight. Venezuela is barely bringing in enough money to hold itself together. I haven't seen any evidence at all that Maduro is making himself or others wealthy, although that is the prevailing propaganda regarding him. If I understand you, you're saying he only came into power to skim oil money? Based on what? Opinion pieces?

dictators don't go broke, lol. everyone else suffers, but HE aint eating out of a dumpster. it is his (and friends/business associates/hangers-on) scraps that the poor are getting from the dumpsters. if i gave a fuck about opinion pieces, YOUR opinion might carry some weight. alas...
 

dramamine

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dictators don't go broke, lol. everyone else suffers, but HE aint eating out of a dumpster. it is his (and friends/business associates/hangers-on) scraps that the poor are getting from the dumpsters. if i gave a fuck about opinion pieces, YOUR opinion might carry some weight. alas...

I just wondered how you got to the opinion you have. Never mind, I guess.
 
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