If commercial growers (legal or BM) see home growers as siphoning off 'their' profits there will be a natural conflict of interests.
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commercial weed growers
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What about a smugglers section?
.......... and definitely a forum for traumatized, escaped trimmers held against their will.
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
LP or BM is all the same to me.
The cost difference of operating them is massive. Here in Cali if you don't have millions your not getting into Legal.
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
Same here. Micro cultivators get a little break. Apart from security requirements, the buildout is the same. A retrofit is about $120 per sq ft. Not cheap.
I don't know what production costs are, but I was told $300/lb. Seems high. Outdoor BM is trivial by comparison. But now we're comparing AAAA and BBBB.
Goodherb
Well-known member
A traditional "farmers"cultivator, could apply for a license of up to 5 acres , license fee is $30 US dollars.
Many farmers are now legal .
I'm about to apply myself !
This it on the Caribbean island of , saint Vincent and the grenadines, which had an volcano eruption 9 months ago, rich soil ,to say the least ! .
Many farmers are now legal .
I'm about to apply myself !
This it on the Caribbean island of , saint Vincent and the grenadines, which had an volcano eruption 9 months ago, rich soil ,to say the least ! .
Wow, good luck with your endeavor Goodherb! 
edit to add: think of the possibilities for poor, devasted countries like Haiti or Puerto Rico if they could follow this model.
edit to add: think of the possibilities for poor, devasted countries like Haiti or Puerto Rico if they could follow this model.
Goodherb
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Wow, good luck with your endeavor Goodherb!
edit to add: think of the possibilities for poor, devasted countries like Haiti or Puerto Rico if they could follow this model.
I give thanks for irie vibration.
funkyhorse you an star also !
Yes, this island is second in the Caribbean, and many are following this island's model.
Commercial entails different monetary endeavors.
I'm hoping to get into (eco, ganja ) tourism !
In an informational site such as this one, I like the idea of picking the brains of growers big and small, without separating the two. Having 50 plus years of growing under my belt makes me only want to learn more and when I can throw out a few bits of info. We are all hobby growers, whether for fun or profit.
What makes this site special is the sharing of knowledge to those that need help. Many commercial growers are here not just to push their product but to help the grower. Not to toot anybody's horn, but 2 breeders who come to mind are Dubi from Ace and Vman from GM Seeds.
What makes this site special is the sharing of knowledge to those that need help. Many commercial growers are here not just to push their product but to help the grower. Not to toot anybody's horn, but 2 breeders who come to mind are Dubi from Ace and Vman from GM Seeds.
I notice that Dubi shares a lot and is very helpful, I have just started reading Dubi threads. I will check out Vman on GM seeds. Ace does super work and has super results. Wish more breeders would share growing methods. Mike at Mandala was super but faded out on his thread, I don't know what happened to him, I guess old age is like with me. It's fun learning from the best. 
Commercial and home grown plants require the exact same things to thrive. The only real difference I can think of is one is in it for primarily financial gain and the other for the love of the plant. You either make your choices, wether it be strain or something environmental to either yield the most or yield the best.
Not understanding this is the reason commercial growers are the ones lowering the value of finished product for everyone else. They would rather sell cheap pounds than top shelf. I primarily sell to smokers these days because everyone that middleman's would rather buy garbage for cheap and get e personal bag that cost more for themselves.
Not understanding this is the reason commercial growers are the ones lowering the value of finished product for everyone else. They would rather sell cheap pounds than top shelf. I primarily sell to smokers these days because everyone that middleman's would rather buy garbage for cheap and get e personal bag that cost more for themselves.
i would love a new sub forum for commercial growers. I dont want to be disrespectful, but the home growers world, is filled with to much bro science. And why stop here ? we can learn a lot from other commercial business related to weed, for example tissue culture labs, nurserys, etc.
Your saying commercial growers deserve better science than home growers. So much lol.
I think if you consider yourself a commercial grower maybe you should already know your shit.
Pay a real professional for quality advice and quit asking the internet for help.
Seriously
Hobby Growers do not grow on the same scale. IMO it's not even an issue, let them do their thing.. Lots of home commercial growers need that extra income. These are whom we should support IMO. Tons of love and care going into every run. There are plenty of dirtbags that mix in. Those that gut homes to grow in are not who im referring to. These scumbags need to go. Im also not a fan of any Mega commercial operations. Many want to make home growing illegal. If you can find the right home commercial grower you will never look elsewhere. The best weed comes from their gardens.
Im not saying that ... you are saying that. In fact i cant see the relation between my post and your answer.
All this money always come after a big study, most of as dont do that, you do? My goal is to get cheap and healthy weed at home, most of home growers like to waste big money in hyped fertilicer, boosters, soil, etc. The commercial growers are a very good example to copy in small escale of course. I dont need a "real profesional" to quality advice, we have scyhub between others good sources of quality info.
You did start by suggesting commercial growers have better science than home growers. In my experience it is far from true. In fact I do not agree with most of your original post. We all have access to the same information. It is more a matter of what each individual chooses to learn about. If I want advice on building a better grow room I would probably look at what the best commercial grows are doing. If I want to learn how to grow higher quality I would seek information from whoever has the best herb. In my experience that is almost always the smaller scale grower.
If you want cheap healthy weed at home. The very best I ever did the only ingredients were homemade bokaski compost made from my own fruit and vegetables and red wiggler worms. Was it perfect, no. Was the quality off finished product great. Yes. Some of the smoothest burning and most flavorful herb I have ever smoked. If you wanted to truly fine tune this look up a list of dynamic accumulater plants and start fine tuning your mix based on what nutrients the plants you compost uptake.
I have intended to revisit this technique for a while I only have time and space for so many projects at any given time.
Alpenglow
Well-known member
I think thats what most of have in mind when reading the thread title.
But to be honest, i dont think that it will gonna happen or last long. Just think of all the strain related topics like Haze, Cookies and Kush.
If commercial growers are interested to share knowledge and stuff, they would already post (more) in those threads from time to time.
The truth is: they dont because those threads are toxic, why participate in a subforum to get fronted and in conflict with the bro since and stuff?
Thats why for example dubi stays in his ACE sub and shares his knowledge of hazes there and only there. No need for him to participate in the ego wars of the Haze Thread
Sad but true
Creepers original post suggested a separate section for commercial growers. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see much from this group on ICmag. Mostly hobby growers and commercial breeders.
I live in a highly regulated state for both rec. and medical. Most of us old school growers do not trust this highly regulated industry. We use what we grow and nothing else. This doesn't mean that their methods don't work. They make a product that pleases the customer. Quick maturing, fast dry down, in the bin and out the door. Not who I want to learn from.
On the other hand, the commercial breeders on this site who share methods and information, are a wealth of knowledge. If I have a question about a cross or breeding line, I can get it answered. This is how the weed scene operated back in the 60's and 70's. We grew, we shared and nobody got ripped off. Not gonna happen in today's world.
I live in a highly regulated state for both rec. and medical. Most of us old school growers do not trust this highly regulated industry. We use what we grow and nothing else. This doesn't mean that their methods don't work. They make a product that pleases the customer. Quick maturing, fast dry down, in the bin and out the door. Not who I want to learn from.
On the other hand, the commercial breeders on this site who share methods and information, are a wealth of knowledge. If I have a question about a cross or breeding line, I can get it answered. This is how the weed scene operated back in the 60's and 70's. We grew, we shared and nobody got ripped off. Not gonna happen in today's world.
