Colorado marijuana prices see huge drop, drug cartels reeling

[Shcrews]

Stray speck of sand in a washed scallop vs a mouthful of grit in an uncleaned scallop.

that is a bullshit metaphor , has nothing to do with outdoor vs indoor buds. if you want to be like that, then you should only smoke bud grown in a laboratory-style clean room, which will have negligible (but still some) dirt.

I have had my outdoors lab tested for contaminants and it was clean. what does that mean to you?

Apparently air intake filters are worthless and nobody should bother?

if that's what you got from my post, then i can't help you.

The object in the filtered environment will be vastly cleaner, this isn't "outdoor hate" this is a fact.

another bullshit comparison. objects dont grow new clean living tissue daily. plants do.

you cant keep comparing weed plants to scallops, or a shoe, brick, basketball, or whatever else is in that funny brain of yours

Where is the dirt on this...?

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

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[Donald Mallard]

Ever worry that dust that may be settling on the plants might be in the air your breathing smurf??
Im not so anal as to worry about stuff like that , id hit shcrews outdoor herb up anyday , that looks like real good pot ..

im betting folks would choose that at a cheap price cause they find they cant tell much difference between that and yours , and yours needs a high price to cover all the costs of running the show ...

ive never really like the high much from indoor pot anyhow,
im sure theres a bunch of folk like me , if they tried the difference and had the option..

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Ever worry that dust that may be settling on the plants might be in the air your breathing smurf??
Im not so anal as to worry about stuff like that , id hit shcrews outdoor herb up anyday , that looks like real good pot ..

im betting folks would choose that at a cheap price cause they find they cant tell much difference between that and yours , and yours needs a high price to cover all the costs of running the show ...

ive never really like the high much from indoor pot anyhow,
im sure theres a bunch of folk like me , if they tried the difference and had the option..

I agree the sun is better.
-SamS

 

[SooperSmurph]

Sol is great, which is why the best flowers will always come out of greenhouses as I said earlier. Controlled environment, but with the big halide in the sky, best of both worlds.

Open fields have historically and will continue to produce inferior product, simply because you can't control them, it's just nature, from dust, to pollen, to a million other little things that a controlled space puts in your hands instead of the Earth's, how is this concept so alien?

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

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[SooperSmurph]

This argument is kinda all over the place.

I just don't understand how the outdoors in a "right area" is actually more forgiving and somehow easier than a well managed greenhouse or indoor space, given the simple differences between a controlled environment and the one outside, that's all.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

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[SooperSmurph]

I've never done anything, anywhere, what's weed?

You think weed should be cheap, I understand, no problem.

Shit weed will always be cheap, so there you go.

I'll never smoke it.

 

[VonBudí]

well this isnt going anywhere, moving on.

@sam, how would you go about harvesting & trimming a few acres of legal plants, all trimmed to top shelf quality? say if you were in colorado.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

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[Sam_Skunkman]

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[MJPassion]

Everyone thinks they know what the best Cannabis is, but that is often influenced by yield, or what is popular at the moment in the market place, or because it flowers quickly, non of which are relevant to quality.

So you really think that there isn't a huge difference between a room with filtered air and the general atmosphere?

Apparently air intake filters are worthless and nobody should bother?

Stray speck of sand in a washed scallop vs a mouthful of grit in an uncleaned scallop.

Take an object, any object, it doesn't need to be sticky like cannabis, and place it outside in your yard, leave it there for 60+ days. Take another, put it in a box, move air into the box with a fan, through a filter, leave it next to the unprotected object, leave it for 60+ days. The object in the filtered environment will be vastly cleaner, this isn't "outdoor hate" this is a fact.

This is the most ignorant statement I've seen from you yet, Surf.
It really shows your experience... or rather... lack thereof... with outdoor growing.

Plants grown indoors/greenhouse style collect more dust than OD plants... every single time...

Why? You might ask...

Well... all it takes is a bit of critical thinking to come up with an answer. Any ol Joe... even some observant children... can come up with the answer fairly quickly. They'd be like... wtf is this guy talking about?

I'll finish reading this thread & see if anybody picks up this ball & runs with it.

 

[MJPassion]

This argument is kinda all over the place.

I just don't understand how the outdoors in a "right area" is actually more forgiving and somehow easier than a well managed greenhouse or indoor space, given the simple differences between a controlled environment and the one outside, that's all.

Have you ever grown a vegi garden?

Just from the comments you've made I would have to guess you haven't. If this is the case then I can see how you've been blinded by your past experiences.

Outdoor growing is a lot cleaner than you imagine it to be.
I get that you reside in a metropolitan area & that you have to deal with heavy polution constantly falling from the sky. I would be concerned about this as well since we humans are tossing toxins into the atmosphere by the thousands of tons daily. As those toxins, dust, other undesirable floating things in the air move away from those metro areas they become significantly diluted. If you haven't experienced this, maybe it's about time to take a trip to RMNP for a breath of fresh air and some serious contemplation about what makes the world go round.

Anyway... back to my previous comment about plants collecting dust...

Why do indoor/greenhouse plants collect more dust than outdoor plants?

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Plants grown indoors have to be tended to, in order to NOT collect dust.

The experiment you suggested would be a miserable failure in proving what you describe for the simple fact that...
the object placed in the box is not exposed to the dynamic forces referred to as weather!
The conditions/environment inside the box would be static... never changing... allowing things to settle on the object in question. Air moves the same direction all the time. There is nothing inside the box constantly "cleaning up"!
Outdoors, the environment is dynamic, ever changing, very rarely static for more than a few minutes.
How does this help?
Well... let us start with the Winds of Change. They come from every conceivable direction blowing the plants making them cleaner with turbulent actions lifting dust from plant surfaces and moving it elsewhere. Usually right back up into the atmosphere.
Next, we have this cycle on earth called the water cycle. I'm sure your familiar with it. This cycle includes the most important plant cleaning aspect... RAIN!

Now you do the experiment you suggested and see who is correct.
I bet I know who it is!

 

[EsterEssence]

Most of the dust in your house is skin cells, so i guess working in your indoor room you do not shed them....

 

[stoned-trout]

fuck em who cares.. I heard mcdonalds is hiring ...yeehaw.. a properly setup/run indoor should be cleaner than outdoors...I have had several greenhouses,done my share of outdoor and guerilla and lots of indoor...so I have a little experience ...I shower before working in grow and have clean slippers and bandana/hat on head.. so I highly doubt in the short time in there I really leave that much of anything.. and I filter my air...don't take a genius to figure out what should be cleaner....ha ha...outdoors is easiest under the sun and I don't mind a little dust whatever...growing marijuana outdoors in the right climate is simple..i once ran an outdoor fertigation setup and the old lady only had to add nutes to tank .. I went away all summer back to new england and came back to harvestable plants...cant get easier than that..ya I got lucky no major bug damage and not too many broken limbs due to no support..outside if you get pests theres a chance their arch ememies might show up and level out the infestation..

 

[G.O. Joe]

There's a difference between grows in a spot in the forest a couple times, in the middle of miles of trees, and growing cannabis year after year in an open field that corn and alfalfa has been grown on for a hundred years, with your neighbors doing the same. If your place is where weather could possibly wipe out much value from your crop every other year, why would you take that risk if you could avoid it? All this great Cannabis growing that has been talked about, how much of it has been rows of cannabis in open fields in the midwest? I don't see how CO's future isn't hemp russet mite farming.

 

[SooperSmurph]

There's a difference between grows in a spot in the forest a couple times, in the middle of miles of trees, and growing cannabis year after year in an open field that corn and alfalfa has been grown on for a hundred years, with your neighbors doing the same. If your place is where weather could possibly wipe out much value from your crop every other year, why would you take that risk if you could avoid it? All this great Cannabis growing that has been talked about, how much of it has been rows of cannabis in open fields in the midwest? I don't see how CO's future isn't hemp russet mite farming.

As long as you're in the "right spot" these things aren't an issue, apparently, and your open field will be like a sealed room, magically.

MJPassion, your ignorance astounds me.

 

[Jhhnn]

Well, gentlemen, it seems to me that farmers all over the world solved the problems associated with outdoor cultivation long ago.

I mean, really, guys. Indoor cultivation of cannabis is an artifact of prohibition. Period. Sure, it can be exquisite, but so is Afghani hash.

It ends up like any other crop- when one field is devastated by hail or locusts, others escape. That's why farmers buy low cost crop insurance. Some years will be better than others, taste & potency will vary but it's nothing that modern methods won't overcome. Why will anybody buy expensive indoor sinsemilla when machine processed dry sift is cheaper & will get you higher, dollar for dollar?

Do deer & pilferers matter when you're growing the stuff by the section, 640 acres at a time? When there are thousands of such operations across the country?

Go to the supermarket, walk through the produce section. Tell me about the price of all that hand processed food. Hell, it's even fresh. Go to a big liquor store, tell me how many kinds of wine & spirits you can find & how much it costs.

Like that, gentlemen. Just like that is how it's going to be, like it or not.

 

[SooperSmurph]

Fruits and veggies are washed before being eaten, because, shocker, they grow outside.

How do you wash a bud? You don't, it's either as is or turned into hash.

Huge fields in the less lawful parts of the world produce... bricks and hash, the same thing we'll see here when outdoor becomes widespread.

I'm sure large plot owning outdoor growers are eager to provide cigarette grade smoke to the public, Phillip Morris will distribute your product for you, sounds fun.