Colorado House Bill 1284

[Double Kindness]

I hear ya still2big, I'm growing huge ass 6' trees of NYCD, ECSD, all my plants are now a minimum of 5' tall going into flowering now, and I have some that 4x their size in flowering, so my garden will be looking VERY interesting soon.; I'm flipping everything into flowering on Sunday LOL... gives a whole new meaning to trees.

 

[HossCartwright]

Where did the 2 pound, 25 plant, limit come from?

We were daydreaming about what would be FAIR in a perfect world where politics and greed did not exist.

 

[StrictlyGateway]

yeah, you can be a felon and grow your own or be a caregiver but you cant work for a dispensary or have one....unless its been over 5 years and not drug related.

found out a bunch about this today and its kinda screwing me. My partner will be ok working for the dispensarys grow and i can move what i grow as a caregiver thru him under the table but 15 plants in flowering means i have to grow trees...which i dont mind really. Just pisses me off....

Time to pull out the old Krusty Buckets...Show these CO cops what a 2lb indoor plant looks like...haha

hey still2big....what if you worked for a company that leased grow equipment to the grow and you had to go inspect and change bulbs, perform maintenance checks, etc. pretty much everybody is going to have to have an id card to even work at a store or grow, but it may be easier to obtain if you worked for the equipment leasing co. instead of the grow op? this was the idea we came up with, as it turns out we may not need to use it (long story, complicated laws), but i thought i'd share that...

 

[HossCartwright]

yeah, you can be a felon and grow your own or be a caregiver but you cant work for a dispensary or have one....unless its been over 5 years and not drug related.

found out a bunch about this today and its kinda screwing me. My partner will be ok working for the dispensarys grow and i can move what i grow as a caregiver thru him under the table but 15 plants in flowering means i have to grow trees...which i dont mind really. Just pisses me off....

Time to pull out the old Krusty Buckets...Show these CO cops what a 2lb indoor plant looks like...haha

5 patients plus your license equals 36 total plants so you can have 18 in flower. And remember that the weight restrictions are still in place too. So growing trees only gets you around the plant numbers issue.

Most efficient model I have thought up revolving around these numbers is to have 3 lights with 6 plants under each light and harvest 6 every 3 weeks. 6 plants under 1k every 3 weeks isn't too shabby. Now if I can just find 5 patients who smoke a QP each every 3 weeks...

 

[Double Kindness]

Then it's a good think I have an additional rec from my dr for the last 2 years that I have NOT had to use so far, but that will change after the hb passes, my Dr is willing to write me for as much as I want. The HB won't effect me so much, but it will have a HUGE impact on my patients, as I will have to drop all but 4 of them (I also grow for my husband). The only that's going to suffer are my really sick patients that COUNT on the amount of free meds I give them. I do have patients that have never given me a dime and I grow for them and provide free meds.. so THEY are the ones going to suffer. Is that right in any way?! NO!!!

I'm still trying to figure out how to give my really sick patients free meds until this can all get straigtened out, the patients I have to drop... It makes me physically ill thinking of having to drop all by 4 people.

Thanks greedy crooked politicos and big greedy dispensaries. Yeah, you give away sub par keifed 1/8th that were immature and not well flushed to begin with to entice patients, now that they will have the loin's share of patients and all the money prices will go up, qulaity which is really crappy right now anyway will continue to decline, little places like me go out of business, our patients suffer without the free meds I always am giving away.

This breaks my heart, it makes me sick. Yeah, I will be ok, I know how to grow really good stuff and I have the genetics already. Those of you that grow well know how hard it is to do, then add on multi strain perpetual organic, and you have me... The aquiring of quality genetics takes a bit of time, knowledge and resources and is not very easily done. The average patient won't be able to do what I do for them, but I'm limited to how many I can help by the stupid gov't. This is so wrong.

I talked to Rob Corry, if we pool our money together we can hire him to be our mouthpeice, he is willing. PM me if interested in getting this thing ORGANIZED!

 

[HossCartwright]

You can have 5 patients DK.

 

[Rednick]

Q3: Will the Dept of Health recognize plant count recommendations over
the 3 flowering/3 veg limits outlined in Amendment 20?
Yes! Previously, the Department of Health only recognized the “3 flowering, 3
veg and 2 oz” limits outlined in Section 4(a) of Amendment 20. Section 4(b) of
Amendment 20 grants the “affirmative defense” to patients needing more than
6 plants and 2 oz, but not the “exception” from marijuana laws given by inclusion
on the Department of Health’s registry. HB1284 instructs the Department of
Health to begin recognizing these higher plant count recommendations as a part
of the patient’s MMJ license.4 Also, HB1284 says that a MMJ Center may exceed
the 6 plant limit if they are cultivating for “patients that are authorized to have
more than six plants and two ounces of product.”

If this is true then, FUCKEM. Just means that those who were my patients are now going to have to either grow or obtain from the patient who becomes the grower.

If I have 25 patients, I can grow 75 in flower under the current 'Conservative' take on the law (to avoid courts and such).
Soon I will be able to have me and five patients 18 flower right, wrong. My peeps are all cleared for 24 plants and 2#, so now that they will have to recognize it I could do 144 and have 12# at a time. Did anyone say 'Perpetual'...But always keep it under 99, unless you want to be the test subject in a states rights case.

So what about my other 20 patients?
They split up into 4 groups. Which means 4 of my patients are going to have learn how to grow. But shit, then each of them can do 99 plants.

If anything, this means that we can grow more collectively...you just have to spread the love.
We didn't open Pandora's Box, Romer/Brown did!

Oh, yeah. And then in a years time or so all us Patient growers could have enough pooled together to open up a MMJ Liscensed grow.

It will be like guerilla warfare for the small Colorado growers vs. the big money.
Don't expect them to sit idle on this for too long.

 

[HossCartwright]

Q3: Will the Dept of Health recognize plant count recommendations over
the 3 flowering/3 veg limits outlined in Amendment 20?
Yes! Previously, the Department of Health only recognized the “3 flowering, 3
veg and 2 oz” limits outlined in Section 4(a) of Amendment 20. Section 4(b) of
Amendment 20 grants the “affirmative defense” to patients needing more than
6 plants and 2 oz, but not the “exception” from marijuana laws given by inclusion
on the Department of Health’s registry. HB1284 instructs the Department of
Health to begin recognizing these higher plant count recommendations as a part
of the patient’s MMJ license.4 Also, HB1284 says that a MMJ Center may exceed
the 6 plant limit if they are cultivating for “patients that are authorized to have
more than six plants and two ounces of product.”

If this is true then, FUCKEM. Just means that those who were my patients are now going to have to either grow or obtain from the patient who becomes the grower.

If I have 25 patients, I can grow 75 in flower under the current 'Conservative' take on the law (to avoid courts and such).
Soon I will be able to have me and five patients 18 flower right, wrong. My peeps are all cleared for 24 plants and 2#, so now that they will have to recognize it I could do 144 and have 12# at a time. Did anyone say 'Perpetual'...But always keep it under 99, unless you want to be the test subject in a states rights case.

So what about my other 20 patients?
They split up into 4 groups. Which means 4 of my patients are going to have learn how to grow. But shit, then each of them can do 99 plants.

If anything, this means that we can grow more collectively...you just have to spread the love.
We didn't open Pandora's Box, Romer/Brown did!

Oh, yeah. And then in a years time or so all use Patient growers could have enough pooled together to open up a MMJ Liscensed grow.

It will be like guerilla warfare for the small Colorado growers vs. the big money.
Don't expect them to sit idle on this for too long.

Yes, but what are you going to do with all your overflow now that you can only provide meds to your primary 5 patients?

 

[Rednick]

Yes, but what are you going to do with all your overflow now that you can only provide meds to your primary 5 patients?

Going to fill up my pool and swim in it!

Edit: What extras? I will be making rubbing oils, bath soaps, tinctures, aroma therapy, VODKA, beer, deer reppellant/intoxicant (just hang it from your Aspen trees, then the deer and elk will get soooo high, they will just keep eating the bud and leave the tree). Only the very tops will be used for smoke. Heady, genetically pure strains will be usable now that yeild will be less of a concern. Patient costs will go down for me (aside from initial investment getting the other patient/growers started). Hell, might even just start making the biggest fucking ball of hash I have ever seen, start a Guiness world record category.

When you get lemons, make lemonade.

 

[I'm Dykster]

Mothers, clones, vegging.....Now think about autos. 30 femn sour 60..turning over every 60 days....hide the excess herb people...

 

[HossCartwright]

lol, nice. Can I be your pool boy?

 

[Double Kindness]

Hoss, if you READ CAREFULLY my post, I stated I also grow for my husband who has his liscence, so it's highly unlikely that I would stop growing for my husband who is one of my patients..., so me, my husband and 4 patients. That's where I got 4 patients from.

Like I said, I will be ok, but not my patients who rely on my for free meds. I have to pay the lights, the mortgage, my husband works full time a "real" backbreaking job too. I'm worried about my sick patients that rely on my for FREE meds, they don't have the set up, the time, the health to grow.

 

[Rednick]

I'm worried about my sick patients that rely on my for FREE meds, they don't have the set up, the time, the health to grow.

Let's put our heads together on this one.

Besides the financial cost of initial setup, we should (with time) be able to come up with ways to help those who physically can't grow, be able to grow. Until then let's get Granny to grow!

It is a plant, and I see grandmas all the time 'round here with the nicest gardens I have EVER seen (Not MJ). This is a valuable untapped resource for our state!

Get Granny involved. Enough of them with their green thumbs, hell we might even learn a thing or two.

 

[still2big]

Bottom line is
"these fck niggaz only do what we let em"...trick daddy....

This crap will all work itself out. They cant keep up with the demand now much less once they try to wipe out 3/4ths of the growers.

I remember talking to Ken Gorman on the phone more than a few times back in 1995 when i lived out here. I think about him when im thinking "WTF an i going to do now" and it reminds me we are all soldiers in this movement. We are all paving the way. Just keep fighting, voting if you can, and set and example to people....things will change

 

[Duckmang]

What to do with overages? Give it away! If you gift anyone with less than an oz it is only punishable by a 100$ fine in CO. Better yet give it to someone with the stiupulation that they make a 200$/oz donation to an organization fighting for MJ law reform.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

there has got to be some loop hole where the doctor can write a rec to include plant number and weight. so you can have more than 2 ounces. that is the big hold up right there. It is impossible to remain legal with that standard of 2 ounces in place. It basically negates the mmj laws all together. They do it purposely to keep you under their thumbs. Because of the 2 ounce limit the feds can bust you at any time too.

 

[iSMOKE.KUSH]

they just said we can have a rec for as many plants and pounds as we need. and that neither a20 or hb1284 says anything about selling to other patients. which we already do. thanks hb1284 for increasing plant and pound numbers for me! and thanks to my doc for already writing on my dads prescription "as much medicine that is needed for this condition" so what does that mean for me since there is no limit to how much a doctor can prescribe? 24...99...999?

 

[Budsworth]

I talked to Rob Corry, if we pool our money together we can hire him to be our mouthpeice, he is willing. PM me if interested in getting this thing ORGANIZED!

I bet he is willing.

I get the feeling this means even more money for the Corry's, Vicentes, and Edsons in Denver.

 

[Manitoid]

Then it's a good think I have an additional rec from my dr for the last 2 years that I have NOT had to use so far, but that will change after the hb passes, my Dr is willing to write me for as much as I want. The HB won't effect me so much, but it will have a HUGE impact on my patients, as I will have to drop all but 4 of them (I also grow for my husband).

Well you husband need to fill out a change of caregiver form and fill in NONE, and "grow for himself" that way you can get 5 patients that do not live with you

 

[HossCartwright]

they just said we can have a rec for as many plants and pounds as we need. and that neither a20 or hb1284 says anything about selling to other patients.

You better clarify this. I thought I read that caregivers will only be able to provide for their primary (5) patients.