Colorado House Bill 1284

[cobcoop]

Warren, I guess that is where I am surprised/confused/dismayed. The people voted for a caregiver relationship, and the legislature is attempting to abolish those relationships because it is much easier to monitor/tax/incarcerate a storefront. I'm certainly not against storefronts, but really patients need choice, and for many a caregiver is much better option on many levels.

 

[Mile Hi Dave]

Come on...this bill won't even allow CO-OPS. A place where patients/caregivers can get together and grow for each other....this is all about the MEGA STORES....don't let them fool you!!!

 

[Smiles Out Loud]

I feel stupid, my bad

 

[funkfingers]

Nanners!
What special plants are you talking about, what pheno's?

I guess what I meant to say is most strains will perform far better in a garden where the keeper is able to spend time with each individual plant.. Most Kushes aren't the greatest for commercial grows.

 

[Baddog40]

according to this bill I won't be able to even work at a mmc , I have no desire to own one..

I enjoy my daily interactions with other patients, I don't think any of them would consider me of bad moral character, but according to this bill I'm not worthy enough to help other people because I was convicted of a marijuana felony before I was a patient/"legal" (whatever that means) caregiver. I would be unable to provide for other people that have sought me out to be their caregiver including family.. That my friend is utter bullshit..

I am in the same situation as you, I sold some weed to an undercover cop who claimed he had cancer 18 years ago, got 6 months probation, but since I wouldnt help these pigs they would not take a plea below a felony. Only time I've been in trouble in 45 years. I have purchased close to 20k in equipment over the past few years and I stay under my plant count with less than 10 patients. All I can say is if that part of the bill becomes law I will either find another state (I'm a Colorado native) or go underground, maybe the former is a better plan because I'll be damned if I will feel good about giving these pricks a dime in taxes after this bullshit.

 

[Mile Hi Dave]

I am in the same situation as you, I sold some weed to an undercover cop who claimed he had cancer 18 years ago, got 6 months probation, but since I wouldnt help these pigs they would not take a plea below a felony. Only time I've been in trouble in 45 years. I have purchased close to 20k in equipment over the past few years and I stay under my plant count with less than 10 patients. All I can say is if that part of the bill becomes law I will either find another state (I'm a Colorado native) or go underground, maybe the former is a better plan because I'll be damned if I will feel good about giving these pricks a dime in taxes after this bullshit.

Hmmmm is AZ a MMJ state?...lol

 

[warrenedson]

Agreed, the people voted for a caregiver/patient relationship NOT a collective/cooperative. The state is fucking with that by limiting the patient numbers to 5. The problem is that a20 leaves the employees and potentially the growers out in the cold without a defense. Caregiver to caregiver exchanges are illegal and the question of can you have multiple caregivers? is not clearly answered. Under 1284 it is.

Additionally now the caregiver helping 5 and under will not have to worry about sales tax issues and commercial zoning questions. Again, right now if you regularly distribute to 1 or more patients for renumeration, you probably need a local sales tax license for mj and need to follow all the fun local rules.

I think the 5 limit has potential to be declared unconstitutional, but I think they will then just stick it to you with the commercial zoning issues.

Keep in mind we are talking about the State clearly giving people permission to manufacture and distribute a schedule I drug. Big leap for the government. Not many states have done that, and this is much better than any other state that has.

 

[Baddog40]

Please copy and repost this announcement.

Medical Cannabis Day of Action

Senate Local Government Committee
Hearing on HB1284
Tuesday, April 27, 2010
State Capitol Building
200 E. Colfax, Denver, CO 80201

11am-12pm: Grassroots Lobbying Tours of the Capitol
Grassroots lobbying tours led by community organizers from Mile High NORML
and the Colorado Coalition for Patients and Caregivers will leave from the
Cafeteria in the Basement at 11am and 12 noon. This will be an opportunity
to lobby senators before the hearing begins. See Mile High NORML's
grassroots lobbying demonstration video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APdu-hkFVfg

2:00 pm: Hearing on HB1284
Senate Local Government Committee
Old Supreme Court Chambers
Second Floor, North End, State Capitol Building
The south entrance is handicapped accessible.

*** Please arrive early to sign up to testify. ***

Sign-up inside the Old Supreme Court Chambers
Attire: Dress to Impress
Provisions: Bring food and water, as the hearing may last a while.

ACTION ALERT: HEARING ON HB1284
This is your *last chance* to give public testimony on House Bill 1284, a
bill designed to destroy the current medical marijuana program in
Colorado.

We are also urging you to CALL and EMAIL the Senate Local Government
Committee Members (see below.)

HB1284 is now a 72-page monstrosity that allows the Department of Revenue
to control the licensing and all standards of medical marijuana "centers."
On April 22, the bill passed the full House by a vote of 39 to 23. The
bill requires a dispensary to get a state license, a local license and a
cultivation license. A state license might cost up to $50,000, according
to Senator Chris Romer, one of the bill's sponsors. Most dispensaries will
not be able to comply with the requirement to cultivate 70% of their
medicine onsite.

HB1284 creates Medical Marijuana Enforcement Investigators, who could
investigate the center any time it is open, or appears to be open. They do
not need a search warrant, but they would have police powers to enforce
all Colorado laws. Senator Romer has said that dispensaries could expect
an auditor to be at their clinic every 5 to 7 days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFXOxU5tNi8

HB1284 is fraught with problems. CTI proposes that the state instead set
up a commission to study the issue and introduce a sensible bill next
year, to make sure this complicated issue gets addressed properly.

HB1284 now moves on to a public hearing in the Senate Local Government
Committee, scheduled for Tuesday, April 27.

*This will be the last opportunity to give public testimony on the bill*

*CAREGIVERS TAKE ACTION*
Caregivers are urged to rally their patients to attend this hearing at the
Capitol. Forward this action alert to your email list and post it on your
website.

*LISTEN ONLINE*
You listen online to the Old Supreme Court Chambers.
http://www.coloradochannel.net/

*ANALYSES*
Click here to read a more detailed analysis of HB1284 from two attorneys.

Attorney Danyel Joffe's Action Alerts on HB1284
http://www.cannabistherapyinstitute.com/bills/hb1284.danyel.joffe.13.pdf
http://www.joffelawfirm.com/MedicalMarijuana.htm

Attorney Lauren Davis' Action Alert on HB1284
http://www.cannabistherapyinstitute.com/bills/hb1284.lauren.davis.html

Click here to read the latest version of HB1284 from the General Assembly
webpage:
http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2010a/csl.nsf/fsbillcont3/0C6B6577EC
6DB1E8872576A80029D7E2?open&file=1284_ren.pdf

*CALL AND EMAIL*

URGENT - URGENT - URGENT

Contact these Committee members by phone and email. Be *polite* and
professional. Ask them to vote No on HB1284 and instead form a Commission
of patients, caregivers, lawmakers and law enforcement that will draft a
bill that will work, instead of pushing through a 72-page regulatory
nightmare that will force all but the richest dispensaries out of
business.

*Senate Local Government Committee Members*

Sen. Gail Schwartz (D-Snowmass), Chair
District 5 (Alamosa, Chaffee, Conejos, Costilla, Delta, Gunnison,
Hinsdale, Mineral, Pitkin, Rio Grande and Saguache Counties) Capitol
Phone: 303-866-4871 E-mail: [email protected]

Sen. Joyce Foster (D), Vice-Chair
District 35 (Arapahoe and Denver Counties)
Capitol Phone: 303-866-4875
E-Mail: [email protected]

Sen. Bill Cadman (R)
District 10 (El Paso County)
Capitol Phone: 303-866-2737
E-mail: [email protected]

Sen. Mary Hodge (D)
District 25 (Adams County)
Capitol Phone: 303-866-4855
E-Mail: [email protected]

Sen. Ken Kester (R)
District 2 (Baca, Bent, Crowley, Custer, Fremont, Huerfano, Las Animas,
Otero and Pueblo Counties) Capitol Phone: 303-866-4877 E-Mail:
[email protected]

Sen. Kevin Lundberg (R)
District 15 (Larimer County)
Office Location: 200 E. Colfax
Denver, CO 80203
Capitol Phone: (303)866-4853
E-Mail: [email protected]

Sen. Linda Newell (D)
District 26 (Arapahoe and Jefferson County)
Capitol Phone: 303-866-4846
E-mail: [email protected]

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[j-fly]

Agreed, the people voted for a caregiver/patient relationship NOT a collective/cooperative. The state is fucking with that by limiting the patient numbers to 5. The problem is that a20 leaves the employees and potentially the growers out in the cold without a defense. Caregiver to caregiver exchanges are illegal and the question of can you have multiple caregivers? is not clearly answered. Under 1284 it is.

Additionally now the caregiver helping 5 and under will not have to worry about sales tax issues and commercial zoning questions. Again, right now if you regularly distribute to 1 or more patients for renumeration, you probably need a local sales tax license for mj and need to follow all the fun local rules.

I think the 5 limit has potential to be declared unconstitutional, but I think they will then just stick it to you with the commercial zoning issues.

Keep in mind we are talking about the State clearly giving people permission to manufacture and distribute a schedule I drug. Big leap for the government. Not many states have done that, and this is much better than any other state that has.

What kind of lawyer are you? You compromise to much! The 6 plant limit is also unconstitutional. You should be pushing for full legalization. People should be able to do whatever they want in their home, without the government sticking their nose in.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

I can grow tomatoes in my yard using the most LETHAL CHEMICALS ON THE PLANET.... and then eat them.

Nobody, and I really mean NOBODY.... is going to come to my garden and make sure I'm growing GOOD TOMATOES and doing it properly.


The point these F'tards making policy don't understand is that.... there isn't a difference between tomatoes and cannabis. Tomatoes are totally and completely regulated.... IF YOU WANT TO SELL THEM TO SOMEONE ELSE!

Cannabis should be exactly the same. Anything else causes suffering and death. If you can't see that... your education and programming is seriously lacking and I feel sorry for you.

Stay Safe!

 

[warrenedson]

Don't move to Arizona. If you think 1284 is bad and pro big business, check out their proposed med mj rules. Patients are not even allowed to grow their own if they live near a dispensary. That's why I can't donate to MPP.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

The 6 plant limit is also unconstitutional. You should be pushing for full legalization. People should be able to do whatever they want in their home, without the government sticking their nose in.

Read this whole article.... and then try repeating that "Unconstitutional" bit.

Wake up America.... there is NO Constitution. Nearly everything you think is true about this country, is a lie.

 

[scarred4life]

I think you're conflating the US constitution with the CO constitution.

Given recent federal attacks, though, it will be it interesting to see what happens federally with big grows after the legislature decides which position to fuck us all in.
It seems to me like the feds are pretty serious about the 100-plant minimum sentence. Those in favor of hb1284 seem really confident that these new defenses will shield them from federal law, but it really hasn't been too long at all since I guy named Eddy Lepp was sentenced to 10 years for following state law. And what about the Rosenthal case? Didn't the city of Oakland actually higher him to break the federal limit before he was convicted? Do government reps in CO have some kind of secret pact with the feds that, despite factual evidence to the contrary, ensures a "kinder" Obama DEA (with the biggest budget EVER) will not follow in the footsteps of king bush's narcosoldiers? It's the same soldiers and the same flag, just a new code of euphemisms to mask the fascist corporate agendas of the state.

 

[ClearBarbedFunk]

The point these F'tards making policy don't understand is that.... there isn't a difference between tomatoes and cannabis. Tomatoes are totally and completely regulated.... IF YOU WANT TO SELL THEM TO SOMEONE ELSE!

???????tomatoes get you high?

maters are not regulated, and you can grow all ya want and sell to people on the street. ya ever here of a farmers market?

do you live in CO? there are so many hobby farms in this country sellin everything fruits to veggies, all along side the road. no ones regulatin shit bro. i sell tomates and berries at the local farmers market, no ones inspectin my garden

CBF

 

[Surrender]

You can't sell tomatoes out of your home in some towns in CO. Quite a few prohibit retail/wholesale sales in their residential zones.

What gets me are the towns, like Fort Collins, that modified their home occupation code to prevent even home-based delivery services from growing/storing their meds on site. This is clearly an infringement on caregivers' property and constitutional rights.

 

[ClearBarbedFunk]

You can't sell tomatoes out of your home in some towns in CO. Quite a few prohibit retail/wholesale sales in their residential zones.

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never heard that one, every town in the country here has a farmers market, most just in a vacant parkin lot.

i know quite a few peeps here makin it on a few acres. growin veggies and such. friends even sell there milk, creme, and homemade cheese.

thinkin its a front range thing, cause here on the western slope you can buy just about anything thats in the grocery store right from others gardens/ranches.

quite a bit of bartering goin on as well, swappin your produce for produce others grow.

part of my paycheck every week is eggs, milk, meat chickens, cheese whatever is in house at the time. in summer we get all the damn fruits/veggies ya can stand free.

if ya never had homemade Blue Cheese from goats milk, your missin some of the best ive ever had.


CBF

 

[MrDank]

warren - why does this bill not allow somebody with a felony for marijuana possession grow for a dispensary? but somebody who rapes a 2 year old baby can grow for a dispensary? If people like us never stuck out necks out, I really wonder where certain dispensary owners would be today?

this bill is clearly written with the wrong intentions

i like you as a person. I used to really like your ideas towards this MMJ movement, but not so much anymore. Then again, this has really opened my eyes

this type of bill makes me regret ever contributing anything to the CO MMJ community. This shit is biting me in the A$$

 

[Mile Hi Dave]

Dank...$$ sure can make people change their tunes... I think Warren is just here hoping to get some more clients/$$

 

[funkfingers]

warren - why does this bill not allow somebody with a felony for marijuana possession grow for a dispensary? but somebody who rapes a 2 year old baby can grow for a dispensary? If people like us never stuck out necks out, I really wonder where certain dispensary owners would be today?

this bill is clearly written with the wrong intentions

i like you as a person. I used to really like your ideas towards this MMJ movement, but not so much anymore. Then again, this has really opened my eyes

this type of bill makes me regret ever contributing anything to the CO MMJ community. This shit is biting me in the A$$

Agreed I know long before I was legal my services were utilized by certain businesses in the area..

Shit you had to be damn near on your death bed for the first 4-5 years this law was on books to get any doc to right you a rec.. The only thing that changed recently is that Colorado finally got some docs that aren't scared to right recommendations to people other than AIDS and cancer patients..

I have a pretty severe mobility issue caused by crushed/herniated discs in my lower back, and there was no way 5 years ago I could have found a Doc that would write me a mmj rec, prescription drugs all day long , cannabis no fucking way. So now it is possible for more people like myself to qualify, but many of us have copped a charge before becoming legal.

Really one of the funniest parts of this bill is the people on our side screaming for regulation, are the biggest crooks..

I would say that the majority of these big clubs have 70-80% out of state herb on their shelves.. Why don't we start addressing that issue, or how about the selling of patients, there are so many other things that need to be looked at before I feel that a bill like this will do any good at all..

How about we take a little longer than 4-5 months to come up with a bill that will crush this new booming economy that also happens to be about helping people..

 

[MrDank]

but it won't. The reality is that people see where his intentions really lay nowdays compared to 3 years ago

Certain dispensaries (that suck and rely on his model) would love his ideas....but i bet that 99.999999999% of GROWERS and PATIENTS fucking hate his new 2010 "hb1284" ideas.

I have said it before and I will say it AGAIN, give it 2 years and it will be "survival of the fittest". After a few years, the dispensaries who sell shitty Cali grown weed will be out of business. All these amateur "growers" will be in debt and will have swim their way out. They won't be able to sell their sub-par meds so they will be forced out of business. Only the best dispensaries and the best growers will be left standing. BUT, its all about the $$$, not the patients.