Colorado Growers Thread

[Eternaldust7]

IGT back a few pages.. something like 30 - 35 I asked a very similar question.. Bunches of input http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=136398&page=42

 

[IGrowTrees]

sweet..tons of info!..

thanks Eternaldust

 

[aceofspades]

Just spen 90 minutes going from page 20 til now and I think I may be a little high but i totally overlooked it somewhere. Looking for the discussion about drying and curing. I am coming up on having to do this in the next few days and I am wondering when everyone trims as well.

Appreciate it !
Ace

 

[IGrowTrees]

Okay..I left my buds out with some air circulation on a drying rack..they became a little crispy so they went back in the jar...from what I gathered, the trick is to slow down the drying and curing and not to overdry..

aceofspades, I trimmed when the plant was wet..it just seemed easier..

 

[Kelly.]

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[Lord Doobie]

The average humidity is 38% which actually seems too high

 

[Eternaldust7]

Just spen 90 minutes going from page 20 til now and I think I may be a little high but i totally overlooked it somewhere. Looking for the discussion about drying and curing. I am coming up on having to do this in the next few days and I am wondering when everyone trims as well.

Appreciate it !
Ace

LOL, i did the same thing trying to find a link to my own question in the thread. I suppose I could just look at my own posts ...

I've trimmed wet and trimmed after initially dry. I think its come out better after drying a couple days then trim. Its what I'll be doing for my next harvest.

Found it. http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=136398&page=42

 

[Balazar]

Here is a little pre-christmas update.

I changed my veg around a bit and shrank the size of my RDWC to make room for soil plants.

More soil plants in flower now too.

Here is that ScrOG in action.

And some close up's. They still have 3-4 weeks left

Getting the perpetual going, I just crushed the herd.

Almost wanna

 

[Eternaldust7]

Balazar - Awesome setup. Very clean and professional. Certainly makes me want to

 

[cobcoop]

aceofspades, I trimmed when the plant was wet..it just seemed easier..

Try only trimming off the fan leaves, then hang for 3-4 days (dark closet), finish the trim, then into jars. Open once or twice a day, till you reach the moisture level you want. Then leave them sealed for 2 weeks.

 

[Kelly.]

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[Kelly.]

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[rooted]

what is the big draw to coco?

yield increase is the biggest draw for soil growers. for dwc growers, using less water/nutes/equipment is the main attraction. it's beneficial for large ops as well

organic medium?

all cocos are made from natural fibers, however the loose cocos are treated so they're ready-to-grow out of the bag.

but most nutes for coco arent oganic are they or can you grow with any nutes (including organics?)

most liquid nutes aren't organic anyways, whether coco specific or not. you can grow with any nutes and have great success, just listen to your plants, they have a lot to say.

seems to me the market is shifting towards organics, and as a result there will be more high quality liquid organics available; but to my knowledge, there aren't yet any OMRI listed coco specific nutes.

no cal-mag bs.

hah! i bet most of the hydro growers reading this thread have a bottle of calmag on hand.....and a few of you soil guys too!.....you're calling us all bullshitters?

Looking good kelly.

hell yeah, i second that!

the coco is inert right?

yep.

what about coco makes them grow faster?

the orgasmic rootzone

it's elementary, happy roots = happy plant...same reason dwc yields are huge, because the roots are constantly saturated in a balanced nutrient mix with lots of oxygen. not trying to start a pissing match, i'm not saying it yields as good as dwc, but i'm not saying it doesn't hehehe

coco resists compaction, making loooots of oxygen available to the roots, and to the beneficials living down there

coco has a high CEC, which, in a nutshell, means it holds more cal/mag/potassium for your plant

this, however, just like dirt growing, depends on the skill of the grower. if you don't know the first thing about growing, you could certainly grow a plant very slowly in coco

i think my next setup will be a recirculating drip setup, i may have to look into coco.

you won't regret it, let me know if i can help

i have 'heard' organic hydro is alot harder then non organic nutes. any truth to this? maybe a steeper learning curve?

dunno, the closest thing to organic i've used in coco is pbp (orpanic i know you're having a good laugh over that,lol)

i don't recommend amending coco as you would a soil mix, with the intent of feeding only plain water throughout the grow

i'm about to test the entire general organics line, i'll let you know how it goes

I'd imagine organic hydro would be the most expensive set up you can use, being that plants in hydro set ups can go through a lot more nutes in general.

i can't imagine it costing even half of running the entire AN line.

better taste, better high, not harsh.

better taste? what, were you chewing rubbers? if done properly, it will taste and burn cleaner, but you don't want to hear that.

better high? that's your humble opinion. i'm convinced of the complete opposite, but who am i to say you're wrong?

not harsh? laughable... i've thrown up in my mouth because of harsh organic buds, but it was organic, so i should love it right?....a proper flush/dry/cure will take care of this problem, doesn't matter if you're feeding lucas or guano!

Folks who use synthetics seem to be more on the cash cropper side, than about quality of the finished product, IME.

confucious say, croppa who ignore quality, get no cash!

i want something i can maintain at exactly 40% rh.

if you have a choice, why not start them around 50%, then lower to 40 after a few days? slow is the name of the game and this could potentially add a whole day to your drying process



....and finally, balazar, i love the home made trellises. your whole setup looks prime, as do the meds. keep it green

peace co

 

[Kelly.]

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[RAGGA MON]

When using coco cal/mag is an absolute must. I ran coco for about 5 years before switching back to soil, so i put my time in...here's some things i noticed... never ever...ever.. amend your coco! Straight coco with no perlite or any other additives is the way to go. Never ever ran nutes that where specifically made for coco, and had fantastic results *Botancare line to be specific*
Coco...easy to use and very forgiving...the only downside to coco was i had to deal with more gnats and other insects, why? i dont know?
Like any other medium, you just have to be a master of your craft or you will never achieve your maximum level of dankness regardless of whether its soil, coco, dwc.
I highly encourage everyone to experiment with different styles and ways of growing the collie. Find your passion and find your niche.....chances are when you do you'll realize its just about the passion no matter the medium.
blessed up,
ragga

 

[rooted]

good calla ragga

 

[orpanic]

Cal mag madatory? I think NOT.
I run coco fine with no cal-mag brand, I'm sure there is an organic version now by someone but there are other ways to supp cal and mag. I cringe when I hear/see someone say, here's my organic run and they got calmag or PBP, goes to show. The only people I know that run coco personally, don't use it either anymore...100% organic is where it is at, if your not there, hope to see you there soon. The taste and high are better IME, guess that makes it my opinion.
Rooted, sorry you got this chip on your shoulder about organics.. Have fun everyone!

Ragga, gnats? Azamax in soil/coco drench.
I'm still not completely sold on coco yet, I am still comfortable with soil.

 

[FoCo(No.Co)]

that is not true.
if you name someone else as a caregiver you can still grow your own medicine.

here is an email from the mmj registry in response to that question:


here is their email address:
[email protected]

How many caregivers make agreements to split plant counts though? I guess the point I was trying to make was that dudes plants looked great and I thought he was looking for someone to grow on his behalf. Thank you for straightening out my misinformation.

Hey maybe you can straighten something else out for me; Amendment 20 states that each patient is allowed to posses 2 oz of cannabis "preparation". Now shouldnt edibles count as a "preparation"? If an oz of shwag counts the same as an oz of dank, shouldnt edibles count on your weight? A couple cookies weights more than 2 oz, but its only two doses.

I ask because I made butter with a little auto I grew (yielding well under 2 oz), then realized that the butter weighed over a lb. and kind of panicked and got rid of it(probably because I ate too much of it haha!)... was this totally irrational?

 

[rooted]

orpanic, look again, the chip is not on my shoulder. i started growing organically in soil mixes, as do many herb farmers, and had nothing but great results from the start. my problem is with organic growers spreading misinformation with a know-it-all, holier than thou attitude. lower your nose and you'll see clearly what i'm saying

IME, guess that makes it my opinion.

that's all i was really getting at, no hard feelings

 

[orpanic]

The name calling is childish, and I don't stand for it. It happens a lot, people must result to name calling than sound arguments.

Reminds me of the people lately telling me Chemdawg is supposed to be/is better grown in synthetics, or chem as they said because of the name. I laughed hard, then explained the diff between synth and chemical and what chem is really based upon. Oh, and they introduced themselves as an herbologist.
have a nice day.