Colorado Growers Thread

[Dorje113]

michigan law is about the same with the finished product... that odnt mean shit though... we just had a guy get raided he cut the plants 2 days before they wree hang drying... bagged that shit up as is and said it was usable...

the law dont mean shit in court. the way its interpreted to us is not the way the judges and lawyers look at it. We had a guy that had his door unlocked because of a family emergency he rushed out the house.. . if your illegal in any way in mi. they throw out ANY medical defense.

we just convicted a 80year old lady for that shit. the powers to be dont give a shit about u or the laws... they give us something to stand on. but it dont mean that its stable...

This is good advice, in general.

My advice about having a separate area for curing and finished product comes from the Department of Revenue rules for MMCs. They are allowed to determine what is finished product and what is not in the same way I described. Otherwise, a LOT of MMCs would end up possessing far more mmj than they are allowed to at 2 oz per patient. Whether or not mmj being cured is finished product has not gone to court in CO, so it really is hard to say what will happen. Despite the uncertainty, I think it is a good idea to have a separate curing area if you would otherwise be over the limit of what you are allowed to possess.

 

[Canniwhatsis]

What exactly defines a "separate" curing area?

michigan law is about the same with the finished product... that odnt mean shit though... we just had a guy get raided he cut the plants 2 days before they wree hang drying... bagged that shit up as is and said it was usable...

the law dont mean shit in court. the way its interpreted to us is not the way the judges and lawyers look at it. We had a guy that had his door unlocked because of a family emergency he rushed out the house.. . if your illegal in any way in mi. they throw out ANY medical defense.

we just convicted a 80year old lady for that shit. the powers to be dont give a shit about u or the laws... they give us something to stand on. but it dont mean that its stable...

Certainly a single plant that's been just cut will put a patient over the 2oz limit before it's dried, de-stemmed, and cured,..... but a 2oz "Wet" harvest will only yield around .5oz "Finished" product for 2 months worth of flowering efforts,.... and most patients seem to consume about .5-1oz a month, meaning their "Wet" harvests would need to be in the 4-8oz range in order to simply keep up with rate of consumption over the next 2 months of flowering.

 

[BudGood]

I would think a separate temperature and humidity controlled room or closet, labeled "Curing Room", with shelves for holding jars. The area Canniwhatsis describes sounds like a Drying Room or Area, to me anyway. Similar to a humidor would be perfect, with the same environmental controls to keep it just right for curing. Good idea Dorje!

Yeah, it just seems better to be a patient with a higher plant count recommendation at this point. I won't be out slangin' sacks to randoms or craigslist, only patients/friends who want fire will be able to get anything from me. I'll just grow some vert trees, my veg room will be the larger plant count I'm sure of it, lol.

I won't go "underground", I'll stay a patient. It's cheap protection against LEO, but I sure as fuck ain't gonna play ball with all these dumbshit rules. Some asshole dispensary owners are behind this, I'm sure, along with greedy politicians who see MMJ as a cash cow for them to stick their fat fuckhead fingers into. (don't get all bent Soco, you're one of the better dispensary owners from what I gather, not talking about you at all)

Oh yeah, Rednick said something about being "scared". I'm not scared in the least, just not gonna play their stupid fucking games. AM 20 is what I'm going by, fuck HB-ANYTHING!

 

[iSMOKE.KUSH]

Oh yeah, Rednick said something about being "scared". I'm not scared in the least, just not gonna play their stupid fucking games. AM 20 is what I'm going by, fuck HB-ANYTHING!

AMEN

 

[dragging hooks]

just not gonna play their stupid fucking games.

that's pretty much where I am at
Government and weed go together like oil and water

seems like a lot of BS gets added every time you turn around

Where we lived in northern California it was pretty simple
go to a doctor once a year, pay $150 get your card
This allowed you 99 plants per card

You could even get home delivery if your info was a file at the clinic
20 minutes after you called a guy would pull up in a Smart car with your order
and some free edibles to try
One time we ordered a bag and a pizza at the same time to see who would get there first
the weed won by 10 minutes

 

[Snoopster]

I have pulled 14-16 ounces off two plants before using scrog and a 600 watt hps.

You could grow three plants under 3 1000 watt lights...

Despite the interpretation, with a half decent lawyer and some good friends any legal problems could be squashed. the amendment was pretty well written.

Make sure to talk to people that don't know about why weed should be legal - after a 15 minute conversation my Dad was sold. Now if I could just get him to smoke one with me.

legalize in 2012, then we can forget this nonsense.

 

[MrDank]

California is sounding better and better by the day

 

[Rednick]

Despite the interpretation, with a half decent lawyer and some good friends any legal problems could be squashed. the amendment was pretty well written.

Everytime I read it, I still am amazed.

There I go again, hiding behind the Constitution.

I remember losing sleep over HB-1284, reading hundreds of pages of crud, and trying to interpret it.
Not anymore.
No priors? Under 100? It was a slap on the wrist before '09 (depending on your DA). Now they have said you can grow plants. They have licensed MMCs to grow thousands.

WTF?
Oh yeah, people fighting over easy money again.
Level playing fields don't work so well for the Special Olympians trying to compete against the other Olympians.


Just got to wonder what poor bastard will be the litmus test.
I am guessing it will be in a county with a track record of harassment.

 

[dragging hooks]

California is sounding better and better by the day

it's pricey there
about $1,500 a month more than what we are paying in Colorado
to run a household, no kidding

it was nice just pretty spendy

 

[BudGood]

Meh, I lived here long before MMJ, not taking off just because shit isn't 100% the way I like it. It's called "weathering the storm".

To anybody thinking about leaving CO: Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out! Bye!

 

[Space Case]

WTF?
Oh yeah, people fighting over easy money again.
Level playing fields don't work so well for the Special Olympians trying to compete against the other Olympians.

 

[Space Case]

My buddy pays 52 cents per kilowatt-hour to grow in California....plus $5 a gallon to drive it around....meh...if I leave Colorado, I'm leaving the country, no better state to be in within the US.

 

[MrDank]

Meh, I lived here long before MMJ, not taking off just because shit isn't 100% the way I like it. It's called "weathering the storm".

To anybody thinking about leaving CO: Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out! Bye!

well I moved here to better my own personal life. And when the big dispensary's and politicians make this place less than ideal for me and what I do, then I might just go where the grass is greener. Between the fact that California doesn't make such bullshit regulations like Colorado does, and the fact I can grow TREES in a greenhouse...yep, very tempting


BTW, your " Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!" comment was clever. Ouch! you got me

 

[BudGood]

Like I said, it wasn't aimed at you, but if the shoe fits... You started this shit between us LONG ago, I TRIED to squash it, you wanted to carry on.

I could care less WHAT you do. Move where you want. Another pompous know it all leaves because the grass isn't so green anymore? Oh noes! Whatever will we do without you????

I stand by my original statement. I'm not really too bummed at all to see ya go. Later!

 

[dragging hooks]

Meh, I lived here long before MMJ, not taking off just because shit isn't 100% the way I like it. It's called "weathering the storm".

To anybody thinking about leaving CO: Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out! Bye!

I love it here
so happy to be back

We didn't move here (or return here) because of the pot laws

 

[Paco]

there are alot of good reasons to be here. I grew up in CO. between the front range and western slope. I can understand Mrdanks sentiments. What I don't understand is the uppity attitude about his dissatisfaction. Kinda like how some people don't understand my xenophobia towards people from the south and midwest i guess. I don't like the influx of foreigners, but if someone who actually did something positive for this industry feels like the jig is up. More power to him, I think it's a hasty decision the pendulum will swing back again.. And cali kinda sucks, $$$$. It is wicked beautiful though.

 

[Space Case]

well I moved here to better my own personal life. And when the big dispensary's and politicians make this place less than ideal for me and what I do, then I might just go where the grass is greener. Between the fact that California doesn't make such bullshit regulations like Colorado does, and the fact I can grow TREES in a greenhouse...yep, very tempting

I have a bunch of friends that grow in the Bay and NorCal. Word is that the politicians are trying to pass a "sub-contractor" regulation for dispensaries, requiring large commercial grows to be dedicated supply houses for dispensaries, thereby putting smaller residential growers at a disadvantage. Basically resulting in the same thing they did in Colorado, closing out small growers from the biz, but without the "caregiver" wording.

California ain't all grapes and palm trees, most of the places zoned legal to grow are full of crime. My friends have been out there for a while and have already been robbed at gun point more than once.

 

[RockyMountainHi]

Actually - - it would be wise to go to a new state and reap the easy profits. Or an area that will concider progerssive laws on cannabis

Looking at the price of real estate alone, and the higher potentail for profit there are several places were one could use the lessons learned here and be one the friends of politicians there.

I agree there too G.D. many flat landers.

 

[BudGood]

RE that rep you sent me: You don't know shit Paco, fake cut passing, hermi accident selling joke. I haven't cared for you for quite awhile, but you didn't run your mouth in my general direction til now, so here goes! If you passed those cuts knowing they were fake, you deserve an asswhupping by everyone who wasted time, energy, $$$ and effort. Likewise for the hermi accident seeds you tried to pass off as intentional breeding. You don't know a THING about whats going on right now, so best keep your mouth shut. Quiet son, theres grown folk talking, might get your mouth smacked for talking out of pocket, about something you know nothing about...

I love CO, it's my home. It truly is the best state in the country, regardless of the rules. I was growing for YEARS before MMJ, and if it all fell down tomorrow, I sure wouldn't stop. I'll be growing this wonderful plant til the day I die. (and they pull the watering can from my cold hand!)

Regarding transplants, I've met some truly cool people from other states, folks who don't think they know it all or are someone they aren't, real salt of the earth people (and GREAT fuckin growers too!). I've met some real pricks from other states too. Likewise, there are some cool natives, and there are some native Coloradoans who make me ashamed we're from the same place! Seriously,some of you can take your elitist attitude and shove it directly up your ass!!

 

[MIway]

Yeah BG... I just don't get all the misdirected hate.

Each State grows it's share of ass hats & it's minority of quality peeps. Good begets good, I do believe... and am damn glad I had the chance to meet you. Wishin you well bro, wishin you well.


Grew up on base myself... lived in 8 States... traveled the world... started growing a decade before any med laws came about anywhere... totally a transplant anywhere I go... and an underground warrior! LOL

Thanks for hosting me a bit CO... but the whole situation there has just become too fucked up over the last year... only looks to get worse. Wishin you all well with that shit... shame what all transpired.