Coco watering frequency when transplanting clones

[Oblivi0us]

I know this question gets thrown around how to water coco, but I haven't seen much clone watering specific information. And the little I found was split between you can't over water coco and need fresh water daily, pouring to run off to wash any salt build up and bring more oxygen to the roots.

The other side say you can overwater coco while transplanting and should allow wet dry cycles so the roots can go searching for water. Especially if the plant is going from Dixie cup to 5 gal for example, they say you have to be super careful watering it.. then seen others say hammer it with water around the root zone until 20% runoff 1x per day.

Can anyone chime in on what the better method is?

I've done a successful coco run 6 years ago but I can't quite remember what I did during the cloning stage. I do remember watering them 1x per day but this was later on when they were bushes and not small.

 

[StickyBandit]

I don't know what the correct answer is but I can tell you what I do...
I use the hempy bucket method with daily watering and I don't water to runoff often
After transplanting from 1L pot to 10L pot of pre-watered coco I keep it fairly average to low on the moisture so the roots have a chance to grow. Too much water at this point seems to stop root growth and from there it's down hill but if the roots flourish and the plant grows well it can drink large amounts of water and clear the back log if a watering is too generous
I also drill my hempy holes about 1" up as opposed to the accepted 2" from the bottom and I have a bottom watering tube inserted with drainage substrate to about 2"

 

[stiff]

I take it easy at the beginning and whenever the pot is filled with roots I start watering with runoff, till the end...every day one big watering per day in 15l pots with about 1L runoff. If they get more thirsty I adjust to that

 

[Rockchild]

Exactly how I do it

 

[LJ farming]

Yup I dang near dry coco out growing clones. However once my one gallon pots are root bound I damn near force feed them as many times per day as they will tolerate.

I run low EC 1.5 ish. I think the magic is in pushing old salts out as well as oxygenating the root ball?

 

[LJ farming]

I know this question gets thrown around how to water coco, but I haven't seen much clone watering specific information. And the little I found was split between you can't over water coco and need fresh water daily, pouring to run off to wash any salt build up and bring more oxygen to the roots.

The other side say you can overwater coco while transplanting and should allow wet dry cycles so the roots can go searching for water. Especially if the plant is going from Dixie cup to 5 gal for example, they say you have to be super careful watering it.. then seen others say hammer it with water around the root zone until 20% runoff 1x per day.

Can anyone chime in on what the better method is?

I've done a successful coco run 6 years ago but I can't quite remember what I did during the cloning stage. I do remember watering them 1x per day but this was later on when they were bushes and not small.

You can definitely drown clones in COCO

However once the pot is root bound you can’t overwater and you are just wasting nutrients/money by overwatering!

 

[Dropped Cat]

I up pot rooted cuttings to 16 oz cups and keep the coco moist, plants up close to lights.

Avoid wet/dry cycles with coco, natch.

Feed to slight run off every couple days until growth deems daily feeding.

Good thread!

 

[LJ farming]

In my world. rooted clones go into RED SOLO cups until they are root bound. Smack the baby on the ass and put them in 1 gallon pots. Transplant shock has never happened to me. I also strip the ladies of every fan leaf over a few days after stretch and take away 20% of their Nitrogen weeks 5-9.

Botany super master growers say I’m an idiot and I say hold my beer watch this!

 

[LJ farming]

I up pot rooted cuttings to 16 oz cups and keep the coco moist, plants up close to lights.

Avoid wet/dry cycles with coco, natch.

Feed to slight run off every couple days until growth deems daily feeding.

Good thread!

100% Cat! If only people took notes these Days?

The first thing anyone needs to know about COCO is when in doubt flush it out!

It may take 3-6 runs to dial it in however THE GROWER IS FUCKING UP if the plants need to be flushed!

if you understand how to flush with 25-50% nutrients with a lil extra CalMag it is BABYSHIT easy to correct mistakes overnight in COCO DTW

Never have faith in nutrient calculators! Only runs under your belt in the same ENVIRONMENT matters at the end of the day!

 

[LJ farming]

I up pot rooted cuttings to 16 oz cups and keep the coco moist, plants up close to lights.

Avoid wet/dry cycles with coco, natch.

Feed to slight run off every couple days until growth deems daily feeding.

Good thread!

I am not a fan of the word moist however COCO needs to stay moist

 

[Ca++]

Not all coco is the same. So blanket advice is difficult.
I wouldn't skip pot sizes. The grow can stall if it gets too wet. Leaving you waiting for stalled plants to drink. I wouldn't want to be in that position.

The old weighing things still stands. Fill a pot and weigh it. That is called dry. Then wet to runoff and weigh it after draining a while. That is wet weight. Maintain somewhere in the middle. I use 5" pots, and have a dry weight of 200 and a wet of 500. I stick rooted cuts in, and water to about 350. That might take a few days to drop to 250 again, when I will take them back to 350. Soon enough, that 100g (100ml) of water will only last a day. So I can take them to 400 instead. Then, at perhaps 7-10 days, that 150ml of water isn't lasting. So I can water to runoff. Any longer than 10 days and you will have to runoff anyway, as it will be getting toxic. If you find that happening sooner (perhaps over feeding) then h2o2 will allow an earlier flush though, to get back on track.