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Born Loser
Member
How did you fit 22 plants in that space?
Mine are a little bigger than the ones in the pics, and there's no way I can get that many in..
Great job,Btw
Mine are a little bigger than the ones in the pics, and there's no way I can get that many in..
Great job,Btw
How did you fit 22 plants in that space?
Mine are a little bigger than the ones in the pics, and there's no way I can get that many in..
Great job,Btw
Easy. 20 plants were against the walls, using the orange netting, and the two largest Super Lemon Haze, were on the floor in the middle, between the verticals. 4 plants on each wall at the narrow side, 6 plants (Critical Jack) on each long wall=20 CJs and 2 SLH. Actually, there was one SSCH (Super Silver Chemdog Haze) in the mix, and one less CJ. The SSCH wasn't that big. I can't recall the final weight on it, but it was primo bud, highly recommended. It was labor intensive, as pots near entrance of room had to be moved daily in order to get to the ones in the back. Critical Jack is a very high yielder if you have high ceilings. They like to grow tall. Not as big around as the SLH, which were like large Xmas trees. Nevertheless, the CJs didn't veg quite as long, but grow fast & tall and have huge colas all around. When this grow was started, there was no expectation of a yield like this, but broad mites forced extension of the veg time. Couldn't be flipped until all mites were eradicated. If you are looking for large plants that are also very strong, look no further than Critical Jack by Dinafem. They were femmed beans, but looked like clones. Uniform, and no different phenos in the 10 pack. Keep in mind that most of the ones on the wall were tied to it, and the buckets were touching the base of the wall. Branches were fanned out and secured to the netting. Basically a wall of buds. It's Marlo's system. All big branches had to be tied up with string wrapped around the plants. Forgot to mention, the two in the pix were the two biggest ones, the SLH. The CJs weren't far behind, but did not have the width, so were perfect for tying right to the wall. No topping with these, unless you don't have height. Otherwise, just let them grow tall, as is their genetics. Outside they would be monsters, I'm guessing.
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Born Loser
Member
Must have been amazing to get 1.92g/w!
Thats 3 to 4 times what most people yield.
Awesome
Just looking for the secret to fitting all the plants into the space...
I'm about to harvest and regroup with the same light setup in a similar space.
Edit: you answered my question above.
Thats 3 to 4 times what most people yield.
Awesome
Just looking for the secret to fitting all the plants into the space...
I'm about to harvest and regroup with the same light setup in a similar space.
Edit: you answered my question above.
Must have been amazing to get 1.92g/w!
Thats 3 to 4 times what most people yield.
Awesome
Just looking for the secret to fitting all the plants into the space...
I'm about to harvest and regroup with the same light setup in a similar space.
Edit: you answered my question above.
It's the wall + the netting+ vertical stacked lighting+ high yielding strains. You are using the orange construction netting as a trellis, and small, 2 gallon buckets are pressed right against the wall to save floor space. High ceilings help for tall strains (Sativas). You can see where I got the idea: from Marlow's "WOW" thread. Basically, the walls become trellises. Also, remember, it was a two month veg, hence the thick stems.
diseasedmind
Active member
Hey retrogrow,
I am about to try this out
so you recommend a 2gallon bucket, hole 2 inches up, Chunky perlite/coco, aspirin(every day?), any hydro nutes(full strength on bottle?), ph'd water (tap or RO),and Rhizotonic?
any other tips/advice
thanks
I am about to try this out
so you recommend a 2gallon bucket, hole 2 inches up, Chunky perlite/coco, aspirin(every day?), any hydro nutes(full strength on bottle?), ph'd water (tap or RO),and Rhizotonic?
any other tips/advice
thanks
Tap water all the way. Eliminates (for me) the need for cal/mag. I use Maxibloom (GH), K.I.S.S. method, 800 PPMs is all you need. I use Boost, but you can get Triacontanol cheap @ Mbverts.com. It is really cheap and should be used throughout grow, veg & bloom. Foliar in veg, and I don't like to spray anything on flowers so put it into your mix in bloom. I add one 325 Mg aspirin tablet per gallon, NON-Coated, which is hard to find in some drug stores. Bayer makes uncoated, as does CVS, but you have to look for it, as most aspirin nowadays is coated/time release. Chunky perlite in rez, and I prefer Canna coco right from the bag. No need to rinse. With coco, two gallon buckets from HD are all you need even for massive plants. Increased veg time =increased yield, obviously. Yield also dependent on strain. Highest yielding strain I have seen is Critical Jack from Dinafem. They get big fast. Extremely vigorous. Has the kick of Jack Herer without waiting 14 weeks. Always use Rhizotonic (or H&G) with coco.
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otis33
it's amazing how big you can grow a coco plant on 2 gal pots....nice grow retro
diseasedmind
Active member
awesome, getting some supplies tomorrow. Thanks again for the help retro
Caravaggio
Member
Do you really NEED a hempy bucket with Coco? I mean whats the advantage to having a bucket with a small resevoir at the bottom that you have to water every day when you first transplant into it? Seems cumbersome.
I just run a 50/50 Coco and Coco Croutons now and water every 48hrs. Seems to be some great growth.
I just run a 50/50 Coco and Coco Croutons now and water every 48hrs. Seems to be some great growth.
Give em a try.. I love working Hempys.. You can do it either way.. I've done several things over the years and like the Hempys the best. Next to that, coco in airpots. I find I'm using less nutrients with Hempys and getting as good or better results. Next is irrigation with smaller pots.. I'm lucky to have to environments to work in and try stuff out in the smaller grow to decide rather to deploy something in the bigger room or not. We'll see..
mgk
Caravaggio
Member
Give em a try.. I love working Hempys.. You can do it either way.. I've done several things over the years and like the Hempys the best. Next to that, coco in airpots. I find I'm using less nutrients with Hempys and getting as good or better results. Next is irrigation with smaller pots.. I'm lucky to have to environments to work in and try stuff out in the smaller grow to decide rather to deploy something in the bigger room or not. We'll see..
mgk
I would be curious to know if The Coco chunks at the bottom would work as well as the perlite.
I guess it would be cool to be able to go 2-3 days between watering.
Is there a reason the reservoir can't be made larger? Like 5" up on a 5 gal pail?
I bet it would and you should give it a try and let us all know how it works out! the res being at 2 inches works good because it takes less nutrient solution to fill it.. when feeding a hempy pot, you want to put in nutrients until you get a little bit of drain off.. that keeps the nutrient solution in the root zone fresh and ready for consumption. If you went up to 5 inches, you would probably want to go a couple or 3 days between feedings.. my feelings, that gives a lot of opprotunity for root rot to set in. This is really a well thought out method of growing and works extremely well as prescirbed. There's always questions about doing it this way and doing it that, but this method is so tried and true, why change it. Good luck.. let us know how the croutons work out in the res.
mgk
Caravaggio
Member
What is the correct term for this type of a hydroponic setup? I know its not "hempy".
Passive. The person that introduced this method to the weed world is a person who goes by 'Hempy'somethinoranother.. a real tempermental sort that was peculiar to say the least.. anyway.. he's the one that it's named after. I've heard that it was modeled after a method that was taught to the inner city dwellers of India so they could grow a few vegetable crops in very limited space..
mgk
Yeah they were designed after a SIP bucket .... sub irrigated planter . google it & see how far this method has gone world wide
Dailahempy himself last i heard was using coco croutons in the rez & bagged coco on top . don't know how it worked out ....
Dailahempy himself last i heard was using coco croutons in the rez & bagged coco on top . don't know how it worked out ....
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nachoconqueso
Member
I'm doing smart pots, hempy style. Just get a cheap plastic saucer that fits snug against whatever size pot your using, drill hole, fit, fill smart pot with 2" of perlite at the bottom, and you know the rest...so cheap and easy to add in if you're already a smart pot user. Why not get the best of both worlds?
grassott's dad
Member
Ahh that's where you're wrong my friend. Hempy invented this grow method decades ago. He expeimented with bucket sizes and hole heights etc until he found the sweet spot, 2 inch hole height with a bucket size of roughly 1-5 gallons. During this time he had hydro "experts" laughing at him.
Ever since the success of hempy's simple invention, out came all sorts of bs stories such as "this tribe on planet mars was growing hb's ever since 2 million years bc".
But no matter what you believe, we follow hempy's instructions and grow some serious dank. Take these two sativa plants for example:-
It's gonna be a 1gpw grow for sure. They'll be done just before xmas too. Cant wait
Caravaggio
Member
pics?
