Coco Hempy style.

[DHF]

I just meant that on conventional flood tables the upper 1/3`s of the plant containers are "above" flood level and salt buildup has always been a problem with coco when fed from beneath.....till dripclean has been available and testified over by many of the big dawgs.....

Holler if I can help....DHF........

 

[zor]

I just meant that on conventional flood tables the upper 1/3`s of the plant containers are "above" flood level and salt buildup has always been a problem with coco when fed from beneath.....till dripclean has been available and testified over by many of the big dawgs.....

Holler if I can help....DHF........

for the big dawgs, what is the advantage of them using coco as opposed to hydroton ?

also, im curious as to what the advantages would be of keeping an internal resevoir if watering is automated with a drip of some kind...

the reason ive loved the hempy buckets is the longer water times in comparison to straight coco . however, if the tedious watering is automated, im not seeing why someone would stick with a hempy bucket.

 

[ganjasuiteseat]

I just meant that on conventional flood tables the upper 1/3`s of the plant containers are "above" flood level and salt buildup has always been a problem with coco when fed from beneath.....till dripclean has been available and testified over by many of the big dawgs.....

Holler if I can help....DHF........

yeea!got you

for the big dawgs, what is the advantage of them using coco as opposed to hydroton ?

also, im curious as to what the advantages would be of keeping an internal resevoir if watering is automated with a drip of some kind...

the reason ive loved the hempy buckets is the longer water times in comparison to straight coco . however, if the tedious watering is automated, im not seeing why someone would stick with a hempy bucket.

beside the rez effect of the coco in case of power out.night night lol.btw eva heard of the chow mix.google it started here(i think)and flew even to a few chat rooms.and driping/flooding ,how ever u want to pump the solution to the top i.e. drips,sprayers,open line!.and how ever you want to draine pooling/or NOT.peace

 

[DHF]

"Chow mix" is 50/50 coco/hydroton , and yes the first time it was heard of was at OG and CW , as well as here when Noone and Acry4help used it for big plants runnin krusty bucket type grows but with timed feed on 3+ lber`s.........

Gettin off track on a Hempy thread though........Ya`ll take care....DHF.........

 

[jumanji2]

I have 2.5 gal hempys going theyve been veggin close to a month 1/2 and Im starting to see roots near the runoff hole. Im about to switch to 12/12 this week and was worried my girls might be root bound in the pot. I know thats the hempys res so roots are gonna be down there but has anyone experienced a root bound problem in hempys?

 

[OGvenom]

"Chow mix" is 50/50 coco/hydroton , and yes the first time it was heard of was at OG and CW , as well as here when Noone and Acry4help used it for big plants runnin krusty bucket type grows but with timed feed on 3+ lber`s.........

Gettin off track on a Hempy thread though........Ya`ll take care....DHF.........

whats up bro is the chow mix better than just plain coco or coco/perilite in your opinion

 

[jumanji2]

Can anyone offer some advice on this..I'm trying to switch to 12/12 any day now. I've read that coco can pack a lot of roots but will it effect my yield at the end. Tried to search for it but I didn't find clear info on it. My gut is tellin me to switch em but I would like a 2nd opinion..Any one still doing these? Thanks in advance

I have 2.5 gal hempys going theyve been veggin close to a month 1/2 and Im starting to see roots near the runoff hole. Im about to switch to 12/12 this week and was worried my girls might be root bound in the pot. I know thats the hempys res so roots are gonna be down there but has anyone experienced a root bound problem in hempys?

 

[mooseknuckle]

you dont need to worry about getting rootbound

 

[Lowman]

Can anyone offer some advice on this..I'm trying to switch to 12/12 any day now. I've read that coco can pack a lot of roots but will it effect my yield at the end. Tried to search for it but I didn't find clear info on it. My gut is tellin me to switch em but I would like a 2nd opinion..Any one still doing these? Thanks in advance

You're fine. Just keep a close eye on the plants around week 4, for any deficiencies. I sometimes get a little P lockout around then. I quick flush...then back to reg nutes...and I'm good till the end. And I use 2G hempys for the most part.

 

[jumanji2]

Thanks guys I appreciate ur input. I switched over today so let's see how they do!

 

[Snow Crash]

I am hoping to get a little advice on Hempy and some alternative products and designs I had thought up. Not that I am trying to reinvent the wheel, shake the boat, or fix something that isn't broken. To be honest, I had no idea how Hempy buckets were constructed up until a few days ago and most of these ideas I've been tossing around in my head for a few months. After a few years of experience I found myself thinking up something very similar to hempy buckets and I am glad to know that someone greater than I had already done the same.

The concept of this system - a coarse media with a high air content maintained at 100% saturation for the roots to "drink from" in combination with another hydroponic media that maintains an exceptionally high CEC for the osmosis of elements into the upper root zone - it is brilliant and simple all at the same time. Up until now I had the idea of building what is basically a hempy bucket but to use a #3 SmartPot to hold a good 50/50 perlite Roots Organics Coco mix up top. Seeing how you are all doing it with the coco just right on top of the lower mix has changed my mind that I would need to do this.

One thing I know about coco is that I can water very frequently. Right now I am watering twice per day in 3 gallon planters and they love it. There are growers in my circle that water up to 6 times per day in small containers. I would like to carry this over into hempy and my concept was that I'd be able to water more often, rather than less often, but in a larger container then they are using.

Coco only retains so much moisture. If the plants consume solution from the media at a constant rate then it should not matter if I add 1 gallon every 2 days, or 1L twice a day. At the end of the grow it's the same amount of runoff and the same amount of solution consumed. Admittedly, it is tough to control low amounts of runoff at times, but the exchange with that is when running your plants at about maximum EC the media can be rinsed quickly and easily if there is an imbalance of some element.

I would like to water up to 6 times per light cycle with a low volume of solution. Is there anyone else who chooses to water anywhere near this frequently? I know that this is a KISS community and that my voice here is a pretty rare oddity but I hope you will all entertain me for a moment and offer some guidance.

My concept here is that the fresh influx will bring in oxygen rich solution to replace what has been (somewhat) depleted at the bottom of the buckets. Conceptually it makes sense to me that the frequent waterings in this sort of system (automated of course, no work for me other than mixing the reservoir which I'd do anyway) would reduce the risk of root rot. I think that perhaps by having a shorter reservoir at the bottom of the container, more along the lines of 3cm up rather than 5cm, in combination with a perlite/coco mixture up top could allow for this kind of use.

With regards to the perlite/vermiculite mixture at the bottom of the buckets something I have been using recently with a great deal of success (used similarly at the bottom of 3 gallon smartpots and topped with coco) are these relatively new products called GrowStones. They are sustainable and made from recycled glass (silicon) which makes them a little bit like "green perlite" but with a shape and texture that is more similar to lava rock, if you get my drift. I notice that my root systems seem to attach themselves to the stones like how vines walk their way up a stucco wall. Little fingers reach inside the stones in search of the moisture inside of lava rock-esque pores.

I wonder if anyone has experimented with this media, perhaps in combination with perlite or as a stand-alone replacement. At ~$32 per 1.5cuft the stuff sure isn't cheap but I've managed to reuse them several times now and feel like they have definitely paid for themselves with an improvement in my current root structure as a coco amendment.

I have several months before I need to get all of this in place and want to get an early start on it. I plan to grow vertically, 12 plants, in 10L coco hempy's done my way, aggressively pruned and topped once for two big colas. I'm trying to reduce the branches and popcorn nuggs and figured if I stacked up 24 good tops in 3 gallon hempys all wrapped around a 1000w lamp that I could hit an easy 1.5lbs as long as everything goes to plan.

Please. Help me poop my pants when I weigh my next harvest.

 

[dansbuds]

Hey guys , was wondering if anybody has tried the blumat drippers in a hempy bucket ? i'm finally gonna set up a few coco hempys but was tryin to figure if i can use my blumats . I'm thinkin prolly not cuz the ceramic cone only senses the coco part of the bucket ... it won't reach the rez in the bottom. i could set them to give a moister medium but not sure it would be enough to keep the rez full all the time . & the purpose of the hempy is to have the roots feeding from the rez not the coco as much .
am i just stoned or could this work ?
i kinda doubt it but would like to hear some opinions .
thanx guys





growem green & stay safe ...Dans

 

[dansbuds]

I still use Hempy cups with coco for cloning/ early veg and get sick results. Don't know if I will ever change that method.

FTP ...would love to see & hear about your cloning in mini hempys .

 

[grassott]

Can anyone offer some advice on this..I'm trying to switch to 12/12 any day now. I've read that coco can pack a lot of roots but will it effect my yield at the end. Tried to search for it but I didn't find clear info on it. My gut is tellin me to switch em but I would like a 2nd opinion..Any one still doing these? Thanks in advance

Just flip them man and stop pussy footing about!

 

[grassott]

As for watts i run around 30 watts per sq ft i use 2 lights a 600 and a 400 so i get a better more even lite spreed.

You grow monsters like that under 1000w lighting? Holy shit that's unfreekin believable!
Come on people, you just gotta be amazed! I mean, you get them soil growers using about 6KW of lighting, and they get a fraction of yield compared to hempmeister.

I'll never understand why people wanna give this guy shit. He never had to show us how to grow this method after all.

 

[grassott]

...He swapped over to coco in his latter days round here due to his experiments with it producing more explosive growth and yields than the original vermiculite/perlite mixtures.....

Peace....DHF......

Not true. He got simillar yeilds with the perl/verm mix. He switched to coco for bud quality. Coco makes the buds more resinous. His words not mine.

 

[grassott]

My hempy clones and a white rhino, 4 weeks into 12/12.

Hempy's not posted here over a year which is a great pity. I wanted his advice on leaf trimming

 

[michmedclones]

Alright guys I don't want to be annoying I just read all 16 pages but I just want quick verification because I've just read 237 posts and I've taken in a lot of info and honestly some what confused my self. I use bubble buckets right now and I'm getting good results but its a pain in the ass, the pumps are loud and heat up my room, I fight root rot every summer, I struggle with cold res temps when were below zero here in the winter and its just annoying. I love the idea of the hempy and I know someone who runs a drip system coco and his bud is amazing. This is how I take the idea, I'm about to start some so I want to make sure I'm all set.

Step 1 - drain hole 2" from bottom of 5 gal bucket, how big of a hole? 1/4",1/2"?
Step 2 - add 2 inchs of chunky perlite and top off with coco (rinsed), add seedling/clone
Step 3 - water/feed until slight run off, use saucers to catch run off, use soil moisture meter and keep moist opposed to wet or dry, feed nutes every time. Coco nutes are prefered but is there any ill effects of using RO water? Also do I p.h. after mixing before feeding, p.h. the run off, or does ph not matter with this?
Step 4 - feed nutes every time, water until slight run off, keep an eye on your moisture meter and forget about em

Am I missing anything? Can anyone suggest a brand of coco nutes that work best? For my DWC I was using GH Lucas with some Humbolt supplimented in for carbs and I like what I got but I've seen better at the same time. I've been working 60+ hours and patients in MI are broke so this isn't really making me any money so I'd love to cut down my costs and time I have to spend in the basement if I can and still produce quality medicine with a good yield.

Thanks in advance for the help, everyone who participated in this thread has helped me a lot already

 

[someotherguy]

High man, congrats on getting through the thread, you won't regret.

First, i'm no expert just a recent convert but the true beauty of hempys is the simplicity and scalability so, the bigger the container, the bigger the plant you can grow in it, a 5 gallon bucket could easily support a 7 foot monster!

Heres a picture of my hempys, ...they hold exactly 3 quarts of liquid.

...and heres a shot about 25 days after the flip.

...and a closer look at the buds.

...and heres a shot of some 2liter coke bottles I hempied to sex some seedlings.

...and a shot of the whole plants.

...so don't over-think this, thats the whole point! ...and I hate to give you more homework but heres a link to a thread on a simple and inexpensive feeding regimen, which btw is what all theses have been raised on, lol.

The K.I.S.S. Method by Ioni Botani

Have fun man and don't wait, hempys are the shit!

Peace, SOG

 

[Graham Purwatt]

@mich, sounds like you got the basics down bro.the hole size isn't that important,i use a 1" hole myself,i know folks that have just as good results with a 1/4" hole. if you hvae gh flora nuts they'll work wonderfully at a ratio of 6:9 micro/bloom,check out the h3ad goes coco thread or the kiss thread if you'd rather use maxibloom powder.if your tap water is good it will likely do,if you use ro you'll need to add cal mag. also you may want some smaller containers for vegging instead of throwing a new clone or seedling in a 5 gallon bucket.if i remember correctly hempy stated at some point that he had not much difference in yield from a 2 gallon or a 5 gallon but i could be wrong on that. anyway,hope that helps,good luck to you and enjoy a much more hassle free way to grow some nice nugs

nice plants sog!