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[angeldust30]

תודה פליינג
כרגע אני אחכה לראות אם יש תזוזות משהו
הפגזתי אותם טוב אתמול,ועם הניקיון של העלים אני מקווה לשקט יחסי
הם ממליצים לרסס חמישה ימים אחרי הריסוס הראשון למקרה שיש עוד בודדים בשטח שהצליחו לשרוד
הארון נראה עצוב מאוד ולא נורא ביחד
בסה"כ יש שם קולות מנופחות והכל
אבל זה נראה כמו הספייס גירל באמצע שדה קרב או משהו כזה
מלא כוסיות שעברו פצצות ממש
וכולם קשורים איפה שהוא לאן שרק יכלתי
מצאתי לפני כמה ימים שני צמחים מאוזנים,למזלי לא נשבר הסטיק המרכזי אבל הם טיפה נמשכו מהשורשים
נתתי להם דחיפה טובה למטה וקשרתי לאן שיכלתי
יאללה שיתפסו משקל וישרדו עד הקטיף בעזרת השם

 

[bombadil.360]

angel, it has been breaking my heart to hear of your pest infestation, truly sucks.

let me ask you though, how did the pests get into your grow-room? infested medium? a cutting? do you know?

how long until the ladies are finished?

good luck!

 

[angeldust30]

my guess is on my cats
if not it could be from un sanitized umm... everything
i am a slob and i know it
the wood that the closet is built from is from nature or in real life words,the street
so it could have always been there too
it could have come from near by vegitation like the gardens near by,thrips i think can fly easily but i'm not sure
about the spider mites i donno
but there were many bad conditions which i will have to address for the next grow
that's why i decided to break down the old closet,it's done it's job faithfully as much as possible,now it's time to get a real growing closet and have things alot cleaner and tighter
i will be stoping for a while to sanitize all of my equipment and the room
probably bring somebody to fix the electricity too before so this time everything will be more ideal for the equipment
and i will bring new strains,hopefully the lemon skunk and barney's laughing buddah
the lemon is for party time
the laughing is for work time
and i think of bringing the spoetnik or headband for the go bye bye time
anyways next grows are going to be more strain focused and less complicated
i don't think alot of people try to grow at once 14 diffrent strains in the same room
i've always been happy to be a record breaker
it breaks your heart and mine bomba,every grow i get to a point that the plants look amazing and some shit happens that cuts my crop like in half
i think mainly it's because i didn't spend enough time and i didn't spend enough money or plan well the grow
all i did was concentrate on reading the plants and understanding their needs better,which i think i have succeded ,but now i need to put work and some money in a sterile room
good week man and thank you for caring
that's a very rare comodaty these days

בתרגום חופשי
אחרי הגידול הזה אני מפרק את הארון הישן והמצוקמק הזה שסחב נאמנה שנתיים
נבנה ממשטחים מהרחוב ומה לא
כמובן שאם מישהו מתכנן לעשות את זה כמו שצריך לפחות שיחטא את העץ לפני ההתקנה
אפילו לשייף עם אפשר
ואז תוכל להוציא ארון הרבה יותר איכותי ממשטחים שאפשר למצוא בכל מקום
ברגע שיגמר הגידול הנוכחי אני אחכה לנחיתה של הטמפרטורה
בינתיים אני אחטא את כל הציוד שיש לי ואת החדר ממזיקים
אני מתכוון לקנות הפעם ארון פשוט לצמיחה ולסדר ארון הרבה יותר מאורגן לפריחה
התנאים היו מאוד לא אידיאלים מבחינת השקייה וטיפול בצמחים
ואני גם לא חושב שיש הרבה מגדלים שמגדלים במטר על מטר 14 זנים שונים
זה בהחלט חוויה ואתגר לא קטן אבל זה לא נועד להיות הכי מוצלח מבחינת תפוקה
בעיקר למדתי המון בעזרת הקנייה הראשונה הזאת של הזרעים
ראיתי איזה זנים אני אוהב יותר
ולמדתי להכיר את המבנה של הגראס יותר טוב,אפשר להגיד שהיום אני יכול להיסתכל על התמונות שם של הצמחים ולהבין מה נראה לי ייחודי ומה נראה לי סתם עוד ערבוב
למדתי הרבה על הצרכים של הצמח ועל ברידרים שונים ואני בהחלט אסכם את זה
חשבתי אולי אפילו לעשות טבלת אקסל שכל אחד מאיתנו יוכל למלא לגבי ברידרים וזנים ושיהיה זמין לכולם פה
ככה כל פעם נוכל להוסיף עוד זנים ועוד המלצות וכו
סוג אם אתה בעניין אני אשמח לעבוד איתך על משהו כזה
לדעתי היום זה גם מידע יקר מפז

 

[SoG]

חשבתי אולי אפילו לעשות טבלת אקסל שכל אחד מאיתנו יוכל למלא לגבי ברידרים וזנים ושיהיה זמין לכולם פה
ככה כל פעם נוכל להוסיף עוד זנים ועוד המלצות וכו

not sure i understand

cultivators around the world moved on to clone game
much more predictable and stable for the genetics pool

IMO
once you get good genetics nailed in,
not sure you will be changing that often

 

[angeldust30]

why not and how not? hehe
why wouldn't i wanna add more strains with time? not logical by my opinion
how can i just stay year in year out with the same plant?
i donno sog your idea isn't fun for me
i wanna enjoy growing
not be a robot
i'm not saying having a clone flowering room isn't a good idea
but having a few small mothers in a small flowering room isn't a bad idea either
you grow the quantity so you always have something to smoke
but you grow the quality to have fun and enjoy the plant
i donno i really like finding out plants i like
like this lemon skunk
if i wouldn't have ordered so many seeds maybe i wouldn't have gotten her
and she's an amazing smoke
when have you ever heard a man argue with you that he didn't pay enough money for your weed??!?!?!
i think it's always usefull,it helps new guys go into the market knowing something
insted of seing all these weird names and hearing old wife's stories and what not
insted of having a simple list that growers with experience
just a suggestion anyways
by my opinion the quest for your favourite weed should never end
hopefully i will remember tomorrow to go look for a cheap digital camera
i can't stand not being able to share pictures and finish this log
even though the plants look like shit
hope to post new pics tomorrow
peace sog and everybody else

 

[SoG]

i didn't say anything about adding

when you get comfy with a strain and run it few times
she comes out better every time, if she's a strong one too
why change it? you mom her, and you can always trust her yield!

genetics is getting diluted by the day
its hard to find a good phenom
when you do, you keep her.

 

[angeldust30]

sog,if it's possible for you maybe to explain how to treat the mother and keep her alive and well for the whole time?
i haven't actually ever kept a mother alive so that is definetly a blank in my knowledge base
i asked don roni a while ago if he could make a post on bonsai but i guess he forgot
don roni write that post!!
people you all have knowledge from your experience
why not share
that's the whole point of the forum
anyways hopefully i will see here mothers and clones and the whole shabang
will explanations so people can actually learn from it

 

[SoG]

the key is to keep her under 4900k/6500k light 24/7
with normal conditions, done!

 

[SoG]

as for upkeep
you can split her, FIM her and let her go wild
you can keep her small in a small pot, or go big
its really up to you and your specific needs how to manipulate her

when she gets to be to tall and no lower/soft growth
you simply replace her with one of her clones
you put grandma to flower
and you start again with a fresh mom, its that simple.

 

[bombadil.360]

yup, that's how you keep a mother. even though you could still keep her vegging with 20/4 or even 18/6, rather 24/0. so as to save on that electric bill!

how much light you need for your moms also depends on how many moms you have and how big is your moms' space.

here in Israel, if you have a good tropical sativa, you can even re-veg her outdoors. she'll survive the winter and start to re-veg by spring. did this two years straight with a colombian bagseed back home. after two years, the main stalk at the base was fat as fuck! but this is not the same as keeping a mom strictly speaking. re-vegging is another thing, specially outdoors, it can only be done in certain climates and you need to know how much to leave on the plant for her to come back and grow up again in the new season.

peace!

 

[bombadil.360]

also, to add, how to find a mom? you grow a bunch of seeds, tag them with specific individual names, for example: lemon skunk phenotype aleph, or l.s. pheno 1, l.s pheno 2, l.s pheno 3, etc... until you got all your girls (and even boys if your purpose requires them) properly tagged. you take two really good big healthy cuttings from each tagged plant, then flower one of the clones, test the harvested goods, and decide which one or which ones are 'keeper' material. then proceed to take the 'keeper' plant and/or extra-clone, and place it under constant veg light-schedule, let her branch out, take clones, flower them out, etc... etc... etc...

 

[stagafolaysa]

they say that each generation you clone (mother, grand mother, etc.) you lose more of the traits you wished to keep. if it's true, it's best (and should be easy) to keep a mother for all eternity (or until you have to shut down) - and quite easy as a bonsai. trim growth to keep her at desired size, and read on how to trim roots as well (the bonsai art). under veg light, the plant can go on for years while keeping the phenom as it is.

 

[angeldust30]

היי חברים
קניתי מצלמה דיגיטלית חדשה לצורך הסיום של היומן גידול הזה
למרות המצב רציתי לשתף
המצב לצערי דיי על הפנים
אני עכשיו דיי מושך את הצמחים עד שהחומר הדברה יתפרק או בתקווה שיתפרק כמה שיותר עד שאני מוריד את רוב הצמחים
לצערי הם לא נראים טוב
ההתקפה לדעתי גמרה את רובם כמעט לגמרי מבחינת התפתחות
לא יודע אם יש עכשיו חרקים עדיין אבל ההצהבה ממשיכה
אם למישהו יש המלצות אני אשמח לשמוע אבל לדעתי לא נשאר לי הרבה מה לעשות מלבד לשטוף את הפרחים כל יום עד הקטיף כדי שלא יהיה חומר הדברה או כמה שפחות
שבוע טוב חברים
אחרי הגידול אני מפרק את הארון ומחטא את כל הציוד ואת הדירה
הדברה ומה לא....
חבל לעשות את כל זה ולאבד את זה על פאקינג חרקים

hey guys
i bought a new digital camera so i could finish this grow log
even though the situation isn't looking good and i've pretty much lost hope about helping my marijuana anymore
all i have left to do is try to wash off the pesticide until crop
the plants don't look so good
leafs are still being eaten or burn
not sure if it's because of the pesticide or the pests themselfs
i checked the leaf's in a few spots and couldn't find anything but the burn and eating of the leafs is still pretty active
i thought it might be nute burn because the plants were in shock and probably didn't eat the same while they were attacked
so i tried flushing it since then but the burn still continues
even if slowly
i'll just have to finish this thing as soon as possible,just try and wash away the pesticide
after the crop i'm going to break down the grow room and buy a new clean one
i am planing on disinfectincg the house and the equipment for the next round
probably gonna go with mother and clones system this time for easier grow and control
have a few good seeds left
one from the lemon skunk that i'm hoping will bring a good mother
one from a medicinal seed called critical mass
the weed is very strong and we found a seed so hopefully she will turn also into a very beautiful mother

if anybody has advice i'm more than willing to hear but i donno if i have anything left to do with the plants other than washing the pesticide and cutting them down
peace to everyone and a good week

p.s.
sog and bomba,thank you for the info,how do you feed her? just reguler veg without the root booster or what?

 

[SoG]

how do you feed her? just reguler veg without the root booster or what?

np angel
as for your question; depends on how much you want her to produce,
treat her with aggressive veg feed FIM and Split her; when you want heavy cuttings production,
back off as needed for moderate cutting production
or bonsai her for long term genetic preservation

 

[angeldust30]

well i wrote a whole bunch of stuff here and then my computer crashed so i'll write thins briefly
i'm showing pics although i know it doesn't look that great anymore
the leaf's suffered burns from the pesticide,i guess i used it too much,anyways
whatever wasn't covered with resin got burnt and died
alot of plants got some shock from this and this is the end result
anyways i'm going to try and wash the buds with reguler tap water
if anybody has any better idea's i'm open for suggestions
anybody knows if it breaks down with the light?
anyways i hope you like the buds that you do see here

טוב חברים אז כתבתי כבר פעם אחת אבל הדף נפל לי אז אין לי כוח לכתוב הכל מחדש
אני מוסיף תמונות ואני מקווה לקבל תגובות לא רק מסוג
אפילו אם זה בכי על העלים המסכנים או כל דבר אחר יתקבל בברכה
העלים נשרפו בעקבות טיפול לא נכון בחומר הדברה
אז עכשיו אני מנסה לשטוף עת הפרחים כמה שניתן עם מי ברז רגילים
אם למישהו יש המלצות או רעיונות אני פתוח לגמרי
בכל מקרה אני מקווה שתהנו מהפרחים שעוד שרדו

 

[angeldust30]

more

 

[angeldust30]

and some shrooms that are growing in the root system in some of the plants

have a great weekend guys... we're almost there

 

[SoG]

heart braking, although a makeover trimming will do wonders to her self esteem

 

[angeldust30]

trust me it wont,the ones that got the trim look better
the ones that didn't get the trim are just burnt like mother fuckers....
a friend started talking to me about making bubble from it and i snapped at him because i was so disappointed
i haven't had one grow go all the way right and it's getting kind of annoying
each time i get to this stage that everything looks like it's going to blowup and some shit happens
well to the drawing board again
need to build a better,cleaner more organized setup so this stuff wont happen again
at least for me three or four plants there still seem like they are growing so at least that,the rest seem to not be doing much i think

 

[SoG]

i fell your frustration, its allot of work down the drain (well... not all; but still)
you have to set a better control of your environment
this sort of infestation is largely due to heat buildup
in cooler temps they cant reproduce as fast
and can be controlled at bay