CO2 MYTH BUSTED

[lost in a sea]

Volcanoes = 65 to 320 million tons CO2 per year
Man = 30 billion tons CO2 per year

firstly they honestly cant measure the amount of co2 from volcanism, they cant even keep track of what is erupting and where, let alone measure the output of gasses from them all,, what you posted was a very conservative estimate, and i can find it posted across the whole internet, and it is based on the findings released from one study done a few years ago..

secondly how long have they even been measuring the co2 from the hand full (relative) volcanoes they are even "measuring"?? a few decades, since the 70s.. you understand that the self regulating systems running volcanism happens over time scales a bit longer than that right ?.. plus most of the planets volcanism goes on under the sea.. and even when they do "measure" the output from that relative hand full they still have to use maths to estimate what it means and that can then also be out by huge orders of magnitude..

thirdly as i mentioned before volcanism causes co2 levels to go down as well as directly raises it in the short term,, it is all part of the carbon cycle.. weathering and acid rain and many factors that play into it that aren't factored in with the biased consensus hypotheses..

a good example is the icelandic volcano that erupted a few years ago, according to the scientists measuring it at the time, it released more co2 in a few weeks than all of europe in a year, then the ash cloud, crucially containing high amounts of iron, fell on the oceans caused a massive plankton bloom and reduced(fixed) more co2 than it had released..

it's all a bit more complicated than just humans make ex amount and volcanism makes ex amount,, thesedays we always seem to be much better at adding our own contribution to the maths than all the others and any scientist looking objectively at the multitude of non scientific climate change propaganda should wonder why it is so absolutist if it has nothing to hide..

basically you cant convince me of anything by posting the estimated results from one suspiciously structured study.. i'm sorry to break this to you, but those figures are not fact, just the findings from one little study (in this particular case just a load of mathamatics).. so if people are happy thinking mankind is doing it all and they want to let big business and the government fuck them for it then go for it, you bad cattle you!!

go and check out how observed extreme weather patterns and climate change has been caused by observed and recorded volcanism and then tell me if you are still worried about something we have never seen cause what we are told is coming.. pinatubo, krakatoa etc

not all the studies even agree but we must act quick right!? so quick that we don't even have time to look into it properly, we just need to act or all die out..

wont somebody please think of the children!

i can see why americans are swinging so fast towards the idea since the economy is partly built around murdering people and stealing their oil.. and people like the koch brothers and other "industrialists" or robber barons playing you all..

 

[DreamsofTesla]

The stupid... it burns.

CO2 is destroying the biosphere. It's not a scam, it's just reality biting us in the ass.

 

[DreamsofTesla]

Look at the rate of change of CO2 in the atmosphere in the last hundred years. If you saw it on a graph you’d recognize that never in the last 100,000 years has the rate of change been so dramatic. Yes, CO2 has been very high in the past, and it was a very different earth then too, not one I think we’re ready for just now. I believe that humanity will waste its opportunity to do anything effective, bickering over the issue and we’ll pay dearly for it.

At the point where the industrial revolution begins, the graph takes such a sharp spike they call it the hockey stick graph, because it's shaped like a hockey stick.

 

[lost in a sea]

what actually can mankind do?

drive green cars? stop burning anything all together?

all go and slit our wrists in some mass suicide cult?

not going to happen, you might as well accept that climate changes by definition and in the past it hasn't been because of co2,, some say that it is today but i find it based on poor science(maths).. of course the official records that are quoted only go back to the end of the 1800's anyway,, anything before that is disregarded as non scientific..

i think it's funny how things have been fluctuating since time began and all of a sudden its all happening because of co2..

for me it's better to be skeptical and request real evidence before believing anything ever than be led by the nose.. but if you want to burn me for it i understand,, oh that's right! co2 ..

what will happen is people will lose more and more rights to stop co2 "destroying the world" when the real damage that has ravaged the natural systems and ecosystems is pollution.. that's what is too late, it is almost too late to recreate the complexity and interrelated symbiotic aspect of a rich and complicated trophic levels we had a few hundred years ago,, and co2 didn't cause that break down btw,, enjoy chasing ghosts..

 

[Adze]

Ice cores hold the record of co2 levels for thousands of years.

 

[Harry Gypsna]

Mathematical Physicist Dr. Frank Tipler, professor at Tulane University who has authored 58 peer-reviewed publications and five books, ridiculed man-made climate claims. “Whether the ice caps melt, or expand --- whatever happens --- the AGW (anthropogenic global warming) theorists claim it confirms their theory. A perfect example of a pseudo-science like astrology," Tipler wrote on December 22, 2008.

Is that the Tulane University of the "Cannabis Kills brain cells" study. You know, the one where monkeys were given huge lungfuls of smoke through a gas mask, the one where the brain cell death was actually from oxygen deprivation. That Tulane University???

Grapes grow in southern England now, have done for a long time.

 

[mpd]

This just scares me. I can't believe big biz has people actually believing that scientists are trying to perform a scam. Its big biz who dont want their profits hit by rising prices. How can you not understand that?

How's that Kookaide taste? Climatology doesn't even qualify as junk science - it's like Linus Van Pelt waiting in the pumpkin patch waiting for The Great Pumpkin to finally come.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Leave it to humans to argue over something as simple as whether or not it's hotter.

You guys should start a civil war over this shit.

No seriously.

Hurry up.

 

[DreamsofTesla]

How's that Kookaide taste? Climatology doesn't even qualify as junk science - it's like Linus Van Pelt waiting in the pumpkin patch waiting for The Great Pumpkin to finally come.

So physical geography is bullshit now? Which other fields of science are dismissed?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Any "science" that can point to W being a total waste of space is utter nonsense.

 

[Nirvana_Papaya]

I think man kind is wrongly blamed for global warming. 97% of greenhouse gases are caused by nature (mostly from volcanoes and forest fires). Yes it is happening, but I think CO2 isn't what is to blame here. My money is on changes in the sun and a change in the earth's magnetic field.

 

[theJointedOne]

if you dont think pollution is bad for the planets eco system, well then there is no hope for you....at all

 

[Nirvana_Papaya]

Yes, but pollution is more of a problem in terms of air quality, not because of CO2. ( and yes ground pollution is bad ) If we were as polluted as we were in the past, the temp. of the earth would actually drop due to global dimming.

Edit: Also, if you want to save the polar bears, start a lot of large fires around the source of wind in the North Pole, it will block out the sun and prevent the melting, or hope that a large volcano explodes in that area.

 

[devilgoob]

I don't care what any person thinks is
Psuedoscience.
They will label any science that. These are people who think socialists are spending our money and that things should be deregulated.

Couldn't be we sold our government to banks, and the voting for a president is a choice you are given that is an illusion. Capitalists are patent stealing, hiding behind lawyers.

When I commit a crime - I know its wrong. These people are kids who need someone to prove it. They lie on the books. Use dodgy chemicals and produce nonsense music.

They're perfect at it. They rig deals, screw people over - all while taking no moral stance on what makes them rich.

They spent our money on war, they are racist. They really do look down on you.

That's what capitalists are as humans. You see. The sole object is to gain. Not make jobs. By telling people you'll create jobs, is to make more money.

As you can see, they prove things in this way. If I use e85 and they another..their reason non renwable toxic is better are manipulative.

It'll kill you. Other countries need corn! So you would spend the money for corn for that to only seem altrustic, when in fact you believe every homeless or disenfrachised person is lazy.

So. These are the same people that call you a liberal for anything, but when they're on unemployment its the job market and they pay taxes and don't feel like a liberal, but staying on unemployment and not realizing social security is something you pay.

They will argue pyramid scheme. Ya I know. Not saying it isn't, just that its a social means of some sort of security. Then you'll say do away, not realizing people get old and si/k. They will disagree because they are against socialism and can't find a solution but still ignorantly believing we can simply dismantle.
Don't like what I say? Call me whatever. I like guns, I don't like social programs either. See, I have to explain I am not on a side so you don't frame it that way so we can debate instead of preconceived notions and ideals

I am against parties. For freedom for love, but also independence and self control of freedoms.

 

[Kcar]

Alot of the CO2 man is producing is coming from slashing and burning the rain forest.
Kill the trees and burn them. Good idea, yes? Just a natural cycle of life, or us destroying the planet?

 

[Adze]

Our oceans have absorbed millions of tons of CO2 resulting in a massive increase in carbolic acid content. That together with increased temperature has killed half of the known coral reefs. Coral reefs play an intricate role as nurseries to fish, which feed much of the worlds population.

 

[DreamsofTesla]

Alot of the CO2 man is producing is coming from slashing and burning the rain forest.
Kill the trees and burn them. Good idea, yes? Just a natural cycle of life, or us destroying the planet?

If you think massive deforestation is just par for the course, I don't know what to tell you. Seriously, pick up a physical science book. It'll hurt, but it'll be worth it.

 

[Kcar]

Seriously, pick up a physical science book. It'll hurt, but it'll be worth it.

Excuse me? What are you trying to say? I was just trying to point out the the billions of tons of CO2 man puts into the sky every year comes from different sources AKA Deforestation and burning fossil fuels.

Why do I need to pick up a physical science book and why would it hurt?

 

[devilgoob]

Dreamsoftesla he is simply saying burning is not helping. Plus things that suck co2 down are being destroyed. They combine bad. Like try running away in a dream and you'll slow.

Its more of a multiplicative whammy than additive 1+1.

By a lot he doesn't mean most. It means we over look it and its significance.

People argue planting weed will add MORE carbon dioxide because it dies and breaks down.

 

[lost in a sea]

Ice cores hold the record of co2 levels for thousands of years.

yes ice cores are an interesting point because their validity relies on another unproven and totally false aspect of the "principle of uniformity" (the back bone of modern western science), in that the amount of snow fall - ice forming each year is the same today as it always has been at that place.. no matter where they take the ice core from they have to make an assumption about the deposition speed based on modern measurements taken in the last few decades and within the current system of unproven principles it has to be many hundreds of thousands of years..

as though everything has always been as it is today weather wise in these places!.. doesnt that seem like a pretty massive assumption to be making? and potentially dangerous dogma..

it allows for all sorts of other inaccuracies because we know that weather patterns and climate can change drastically in very short periods of time and last for periods from decades to centuries to millenia and then change back again..

now just say what if cataclysmic planetary events, involving our neighbours swirling around this ball of electrically arcing plasma birkeland currents, seen globally and recorded as the gods and pantheons in every culture around the world and the resulting electromagnetic effects between the planets plasma spheres was to some how cause a huge flood and alter weather patterns by tilting the earths axis by a few degrees changing the number of days in a year from (360-365 the last time,, it has been as low as 240 days in a year) and moving the poles thus increasing seasonal extremes... and we can prove that the earth has tilted even in modern antiquity thanks to solar clocks that all changed in Egypt.. what if that flood went as high as mountains and settled in valleys around the poles and froze? that would take a few thousand years to freeze all the way through and not hundreds of millenia being deposited as snow,, and the way we test ice cores wouldn't be able to tell the difference.. those sorts of places are coincidentally where glaciers remain to this day and where we drill ice cores..

would you believe this dates all the back to aristotle.. plato and socrates talked all about the cataclysms and disasters(dis=from astra=stars) and why the pagan gods were the characters they were in the celestial storyline told in all continents, but aristotle hated the idea, it threatened the perfectly ordered world he imagined.. fly forward to the catholic church and bankers in the 1700s.. the powers that be decided that the principle of uniformity would be woven into all three monotheist religions, for christendom/catholicism Thomas aquinas did the dirty work judaism and islam have their own heretics in that century.. in the whole conspiracy, many names you wont really know but some you will from Newtons universal gravity model to Einsteins E=mc2 equation are apart of the principle of uniformity.. and Darwin, the young darwin and the darwin that "authored" the origin of species were two very different people, that book it mostly all based on a book released before it by charles lyell which all advocates that the only the fittest survive and thus in a sick system only the sickest survive,, well we have a sick system and check out who's doing the best at surviving ??? mm yeah i guess "he" got it right lol.. this philosophical shit woven through western "culture" and religion really is the matrix for us and we have no idea we are all wrapped up and consumed in, searching for, something that really doesn't exist..

god is truth nothing more.. And there is no future, just the present..

there's a lot lot more to this...

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