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CO2----Do I need it in my grow room?

revegeta666

Not ICMag Donor
Nobody said sugar and yeast don't produce Co2. Putting a bucket of jelly soup in your grow tent isn't going to make enough Co2 to make a difference. It's a silly idea and waste of jelly. It's better used with peanut butter between a couple slices of bread.

Have fun with your bucket of jelly while you fly on your wings like an eagle.
Wait but didn't you know we exhale CO2 when we breathe? The only thing you have to do is to burp over your plants! Did you fail chemistry class or what?

@Maybe-123 Jokes aside. No you don't need to supplement CO2. Stay away from the gimmicky CO2 bags that do nothing. Stay away from dumb methods like eating beans and farting on your plants. If you want to supplement CO2, the only real way to do it is using a pressurized CO2 tank, a PPM meter, and a 100% airtight tent or grow with controlled intake/outtake. But you don't need any of that (y)
 
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unnamedmike

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Nobody said sugar and yeast don't produce Co2. Putting a bucket of jelly soup in your grow tent isn't going to make enough Co2 to make a difference. It's a silly idea and waste of jelly. It's better used with peanut butter between a couple slices of bread.

Have fun with your bucket of jelly while you fly on your wings like an eagle.
I have a 20l jug with an airlock in my indoor, enough to keep the CO2 levels at an adequate level. The 20l last a week and the co2 always stays above 600 in my 40m2 room (sealed room with AC)
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BerryManilow

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I've been running co2 for 15+ years, using tanks & a co2 generator.

Do you need it in your grow room? No. If you're bringing in fresh air constantly with ac, then you're replenishing the air with enough co2 for plants to grow and function well. If you're not bringing in fresh air constantly, then I'd recommend using co2.

There are benefits to using it. My plants grow faster, finish earlier, the smell is much more pronounced, and since making the switch to LEDs, using supplemental co2 has made some significant differences in my finished flower. Bigger yields, higher cannabinoid levels, higher terpene levels, tastier smoke, and some of the most beautiful flowers I've ever seen from these strains.
 

xtsho

Well-known member
I have a 20l jug with an airlock in my indoor, enough to keep the CO2 levels at an adequate level. The 20l last a week and the co2 always stays above 600 in my 40m2 room (sealed room with AC)
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That proves absolutely nothing. Put the meter outside of the room and see what the readings are.

CO2 levels indoors in occupied buildings are typically around 600 ppm to 800 ppm or 0.06% to 0.08% in concentration.
 

unnamedmike

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That proves absolutely nothing. Put the meter outside of the room and see what the readings are.

CO2 levels indoors in occupied buildings are typically around 600 ppm to 800 ppm or 0.06% to 0.08% in concentration.
My co2 meter is inside a SEALED room, proves everything. The meter was calibrated outside at 600ppm.
It's funny how people who don't have the slightest experience on a topic deny the experience of someone who does ...
 
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xtsho

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My co2 meter is inside a SEALED room, proves everything. The meter was calibrated outside at 600ppm.

If you want to keep a jelly jug in your grow room go right ahead but if you actually want to have enough CO2 to make a difference then you need either a generator or tank. And those with a tent indoors that is replenishing the air are getting just as much CO2 as you are without a jug of jelly.

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New growers read stuff online and then think they need to add CO2. They don't. It's the final piece of the puzzle once everything else is dialed in. But it's not needed and if it is used you need more than what some potion bubbling away in a jug produces to have any real benefit.
 

unnamedmike

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If you want to keep a jelly jug in your grow room go right ahead but if you actually want to have enough CO2 to make a difference then you need either a generator or tank. And those with a tent indoors that is replenishing the air are getting just as much CO2 as you are without a jug of jelly.

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New growers read stuff online and then think they need to add CO2. They don't. It's the final piece of the puzzle once everything else is dialed in. But it's not needed and if it is used you need more than what some potion bubbling away in a jug produces to have any real benefit.
Without my co2 generator (yeast generator) the ppm drops to under 400 and stays there, with a 20L generator I reach 700ppm, with two around 900. I make my wine and my beer in those co2 generators, also the grow controller that run the co2 meter is my software/code and my hardware, developed for years.

Funny that you say that a yeast co2 generator is useless, you just have to do the math to calculate that in 5kg of sugar there are 1244 liters of co2 (2.46 kg) you can generate co2 by burning, fermenting, breathing, composting, growing mushrooms, buying bottles, etc. co2 is co2
 
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LJ farming

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I've never used it. But I've never become a weed millionaire.coincidence? Perhaps. I know they like 500-600 ppm which is only +100ppm vs ambient grade. Depends on you room, if you got a 20*40 yeah you need c02 if you got a tent you're good

Airflow is key for small grows, fresh air 💯

Ventilation unless youre running 400 plants
100%
 

LJ farming

Well-known member
If you wanna grow more than a headie tent in the closet and/or if you prefer a higher yield spend the extra few bucks on tank CO2 once everything else is dialed in!

If your light intensity is less than 30-35watts per sqft don’t bother!

It you can’t dial your environment in nearly perfect don’t bother!

I hate to say it but if you are growing in soil indoors don’t bother!

More of anything creates the need for more of something! BALANCE is the key and only RUNS UNDER YOUR BELT will teach you no matter how much you think you know!
 

PlastikeRubba

Active member
Feed glycine. Get off the nitrate + pesticide model. No more bugs. No more CO2 bottle. No more sweeteners. No more bullshit nitrate bud.


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^ Organics will grow da gazz terpz. (If nothing else will convert the pesticide clowns, (which pesticide and pharmaceutical manufacture Bayer-Hawthorne-Monsanto-Blackrock normalized,) that will.)


Time to grow up kids. Ditch the religion. Embrace science. Stop the killing and maiming of the innocent. Fuck your nitrate.
 

Ca++

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Whenever I used yeast, it grew everywhere. It got in my cutting blocks and firmed them up, and in my delivery hoses blocking them every few days. That was when I just had open ended 5mm pipes, so a drip system would of been a disaster. I used it around coco fine though. Just in hydro it grew actual dough in my pipes. Not slush, it had body.

co2 can increase yield, but so can more light. As a home grower, it's better to go down the more light route. I have only been doing 24oz a meter on an 8 week rotation, but others have claimed a little more. I guess I could lower my light, and substitute with co2. However, what a load of bother. Plus my electric is from renewables, and captured co2 is an absolute win, and releasing it a death sentence. I should get a kicking for that. Killing your kids and that. It's not needed.

There is no point combining high light and co2, as trying to get a yield like that, would just rot it out. There is a limit to how long a big bud can be in a grow environment. It's why I can't go to 9 weeks, and tend to chop at 7. I'm not trying to grow spores, even invisible one's.

The big pro grows are often limited by available electric, or it's cost, so may run lower light and avoid the losses with co2. The big UK grow by the sugar factory is using co2 from the sugar factory, that would otherwise be released anyway. It's not concentrated enough to bottle, it's piped direct. Where grows can be thoughtfully placed beside industry, they can actually work towards carbon capture. At home, you might be burning gas for heating, so a propane heater with just it's pilot lit, is hard to argue with.

It can be done, but on the whole, the home grower can be perfectly well without the risks and bother of bottles. The best yields I have seen, didn't use it. Which is a good closing statement.
 

944s2

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Whenever I used yeast, it grew everywhere. It got in my cutting blocks and firmed them up, and in my delivery hoses blocking them every few days. That was when I just had open ended 5mm pipes, so a drip system would of been a disaster. I used it around coco fine though. Just in hydro it grew actual dough in my pipes. Not slush, it had body.

co2 can increase yield, but so can more light. As a home grower, it's better to go down the more light route. I have only been doing 24oz a meter on an 8 week rotation, but others have claimed a little more. I guess I could lower my light, and substitute with co2. However, what a load of bother. Plus my electric is from renewables, and captured co2 is an absolute win, and releasing it a death sentence. I should get a kicking for that. Killing your kids and that. It's not needed.

There is no point combining high light and co2, as trying to get a yield like that, would just rot it out. There is a limit to how long a big bud can be in a grow environment. It's why I can't go to 9 weeks, and tend to chop at 7. I'm not trying to grow spores, even invisible one's.

The big pro grows are often limited by available electric, or it's cost, so may run lower light and avoid the losses with co2. The big UK grow by the sugar factory is using co2 from the sugar factory, that would otherwise be released anyway. It's not concentrated enough to bottle, it's piped direct. Where grows can be thoughtfully placed beside industry, they can actually work towards carbon capture. At home, you might be burning gas for heating, so a propane heater with just it's pilot lit, is hard to argue with.

It can be done, but on the whole, the home grower can be perfectly well without the risks and bother of bottles. The best yields I have seen, didn't use it. Which is a good closing statement.
Yes,,,
British Sugar with ex UK PM Theresa Mays Husband who’s on the BS board of directors or may even be chairman?
i believe their whole ventilation process had to be revised as the first run stank out the local village ,,,,,✌️
 

Ca++

Well-known member
18 hectares under glass. For GW. That's quite a filter. The stink was all over the UK news. Perfect cover for growers in the village though.

I would move out there, for a menial job.
 

LJ farming

Well-known member
Feed glycine. Get off the nitrate + pesticide model. No more bugs. No more CO2 bottle. No more sweeteners. No more bullshit nitrate bud.


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^ Organics will grow da gazz terpz. (If nothing else will convert the pesticide clowns, (which pesticide and pharmaceutical manufacture Bayer-Hawthorne-Monsanto-Blackrock normalized,) that will.)


Time to grow up kids. Ditch the religion. Embrace science. Stop the killing and maiming of the innocent. Fuck your nitrate.
This might be legit but is definitely over my head and the brain power I have left in my ole age!
 

LJ farming

Well-known member
IMO the last input any grower should fuck with is CO2. If you get everything else dialed in maybe it is worth your time and the expense?

After a couple or a 100 or more grows under my belt in a sealed room I would not run without it. However it is the very last input that a grower needs to fuck with IMO!

Peace
 

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