Vegg69guerilla
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if grammar assistance Is a defence,it's a poor one
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CMH vs LED vs HPS
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Brother Nature
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*If grammar assistance is a defense, it's a poor one.*
If you want to have a real argument against something, at least try to make sense. Structuring your argument using proper syntax, grammar, and spelling will get you listened to. Typing like an angry high school drop out will only get you ridiculed. The majority of the guys against LED's and the 'science' of weed always come across as illiterate or conspiracy theorists who don't listen to reason. Don't be that guy, prove your way is right, don't just shout the loudest and insult when you get called out.
If you want to have a real argument against something, at least try to make sense. Structuring your argument using proper syntax, grammar, and spelling will get you listened to. Typing like an angry high school drop out will only get you ridiculed. The majority of the guys against LED's and the 'science' of weed always come across as illiterate or conspiracy theorists who don't listen to reason. Don't be that guy, prove your way is right, don't just shout the loudest and insult when you get called out.
exoticrobotic
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To talk of scientific studies is a bit of a red herring; labs only detect a few cannabinoids and who on earth is gonna do a study to test a hypothesis that hids enable more exotic cannabinoids and terpenes vs leds?
Where's the money???
What's the point with lab tests and studies anyway when I have the most sensitive cannabinoid detection system there is....
A recent study showed sun grown cannabis shows exotic long chain carbon C4-C6 THC vs indoor grown.
Cool but i dont need a study to tell me Sun > HPS/CMH > LED
Where's the money???
What's the point with lab tests and studies anyway when I have the most sensitive cannabinoid detection system there is....
A recent study showed sun grown cannabis shows exotic long chain carbon C4-C6 THC vs indoor grown.
Cool but i dont need a study to tell me Sun > HPS/CMH > LED
exoticrobotic
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There are studies showing increased CBG/CBGA in led vs hid grows.
CBG, is a CB1 antagonist, which means it reduces receptors' responsiveness to THC.
CBG, is a CB1 antagonist, which means it reduces receptors' responsiveness to THC.
exoticrobotic
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to hypothesise that a more exotic and varied light spectrum will create more exotic and varied cannabis.
Vegg69guerilla
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bless your little cotton socks...lololol.but you lost before you started....graphs and intelligent sub text means you in your world so do be quiet..face facts and throw that shit away and show me real sunshine!!!!!
Vegg69guerilla
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and tbf led is shit..I'm saying it's shit because I've been watching flowers grow for 50 yrs under varying light systems and leds are the shittest at producing mere memory's of old...I'll keep saying it's shit until 100 of you muppets walk in and verse the same bs..my opinion is your light system wanks..it will always be shit and its shit because I say it is...who cares what intellect minds think producing graphs and paragraphs that mean fuck all to the man on the street.?
and while your at it go and face up all the thousands of growers getting shit yields all attached to your poxy graphs and explain to them how they're doing it all wrong..you are sitting here basically justifying every grower getting his pants dropped on low yield fuck all terp creations that are killing everything about what weed actually stands for and your little messenger boys hit you with graphs and intelligent condescending bullshit to denounce what you are actually doing and saying is bullshit?...yeah you can never shoot this messenger..a million of ya couldn't do it..and your light source fucking proves it...lololol...
and while your at it go and face up all the thousands of growers getting shit yields all attached to your poxy graphs and explain to them how they're doing it all wrong..you are sitting here basically justifying every grower getting his pants dropped on low yield fuck all terp creations that are killing everything about what weed actually stands for and your little messenger boys hit you with graphs and intelligent condescending bullshit to denounce what you are actually doing and saying is bullshit?...yeah you can never shoot this messenger..a million of ya couldn't do it..and your light source fucking proves it...lololol...
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Brother Nature
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I lost? Was this a competition? For what? Do you even know what you're talking about?
I use sunshine, CMH, and LED's and have had multiple journals over the years on this site. I also passed 8th grade. You? You're just a troll.
I use sunshine, CMH, and LED's and have had multiple journals over the years on this site. I also passed 8th grade. You? You're just a troll.
Brother Nature
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Ohh, looks like you're triggered...
Vegg69guerilla
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showing led that its shit..why wouldn't I be here?
Brother Nature
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When did you show anyone that? With your haze and veg plant? Have you looked through prior pages? Plenty of photos of led quality that shame what youve tried to boast. All with such a bad attitude too honestly man. Youre laughing all by yourself like a high school bully who cant read.
IF I may pipe in with all due respect to you guys, talking about lights. During an experiment, I noticed something on my last grow. When using three different light sources overlaid on top of each other a funny thing happens. The plant only needs a small amount of exposure compared to a single source equal to the same light intensity.
The 3 different lights overlaid over one another do something to excite the vigor of a plant and I'm not sure why. It's like growing a plant in the shade and Sun at the same time. Tropism is much higher than with only one light so It raises the light potential and allows a plant to thrive in low light intensity.
Tropism is when a plant moves in response to an external stimulus in the environment. Positive tropism is when a plant moves towards a stimulus. Negative tropism is when a plant moves away from a stimulus. Apr 7, 2022 Google
The 3 different lights overlaid over one another do something to excite the vigor of a plant and I'm not sure why. It's like growing a plant in the shade and Sun at the same time. Tropism is much higher than with only one light so It raises the light potential and allows a plant to thrive in low light intensity.
Tropism is when a plant moves in response to an external stimulus in the environment. Positive tropism is when a plant moves towards a stimulus. Negative tropism is when a plant moves away from a stimulus. Apr 7, 2022 Google
Custom light blending will be the new lighting of the future. It's hard to see now because people are one-sided on almost everything. All the experiments I have done with mixed spectrums always outdid single light spectrums. I think Hammerhead spoke about using a double combo as his favorite too. Something to ponder.
Brother Nature
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Very true creeper. I have started using the CMH/LED combo myself recently. It seems to be a winning combo from what I've seen in those types of grows and while I'm only a month in on the oldest plant, she's definitely liking it. I do see positives and negatives to each type of setup, but it differs for each grow and what works for one won't work for another. We're all here to learn so constructive criticism and debate should be a good thing, saying "My way is better just cause, nanana boo boo" doesn't really get us anywhere though and puts people on the defense so shouldn't really be engaged with, my bad for doing that..
If we really want to understand which light is closest to the sun, we need to figure out first how the sun works, scientists tell us it's a big orb of magma burning at a million degrees shooting heat and light as a result, if you believe that you need to go check your brain.
The more reasonable explanation which you can see with your eyes and not listen to idiots with your ears, is that the sun is a magnetic object, that travel through the sky vibrating noble gases (think neon signs and how they work) which in turn create light.
It's really that simple, and it's the main reason why the sun is bright white/yellow and the sky is rainbow colors depending on the gases present.
The vibration or frequency of the sun is what makes those gases excited and create their light.
If you ever see what happens to iron when u apply a magnetic field to it, it will spin and get so hot it will shine bright white, but won't lose its structure due to the heat, as the magnetic field keeps it from melting.
The same thing happens with our stars in the sky, they are vibrateting energy, which causes them to shine white bright.
Don't believe me ? Go look at the stars from a Nikon 80x zoom, you'll understand why we say Nasa is a bunch of lying idiots.
Now that you know the truth, you can look at the man made techand try to mimic what God knew would be best.
If you still choose LEDs, you just don't understand how nature works.
We agreed that almost all light sources in all the watt ratings will grow plants, some better some worse, but how can we know if the plants are doing their most under each light ?
That's why I highlight the smoke tests again and again, cuz I'm with crooked8, led bud grows and looks amazing no doubt
But, it just doesn't smoke the same, and this is my opinion, not fact, opinion that seem to have some backup
I tried so much led weed, not even one had the smell, taste, potency of simple 16% thc hps bud haha, I think its becoming clear that some of those arrays can do something, maybe...
But most of them just give shit product.
The tech itself is good, if you wanna grow spearmint or just veg some lettuce
Nasa also told u this, but you choose to apply them In flowering essential oil plants lol
No one is dismissing the science, we are dismissing the people who drew wrong conclusions from it
The more reasonable explanation which you can see with your eyes and not listen to idiots with your ears, is that the sun is a magnetic object, that travel through the sky vibrating noble gases (think neon signs and how they work) which in turn create light.
It's really that simple, and it's the main reason why the sun is bright white/yellow and the sky is rainbow colors depending on the gases present.
The vibration or frequency of the sun is what makes those gases excited and create their light.
If you ever see what happens to iron when u apply a magnetic field to it, it will spin and get so hot it will shine bright white, but won't lose its structure due to the heat, as the magnetic field keeps it from melting.
The same thing happens with our stars in the sky, they are vibrateting energy, which causes them to shine white bright.
Don't believe me ? Go look at the stars from a Nikon 80x zoom, you'll understand why we say Nasa is a bunch of lying idiots.
Now that you know the truth, you can look at the man made techand try to mimic what God knew would be best.
If you still choose LEDs, you just don't understand how nature works.
We agreed that almost all light sources in all the watt ratings will grow plants, some better some worse, but how can we know if the plants are doing their most under each light ?
That's why I highlight the smoke tests again and again, cuz I'm with crooked8, led bud grows and looks amazing no doubt
But, it just doesn't smoke the same, and this is my opinion, not fact, opinion that seem to have some backup
I tried so much led weed, not even one had the smell, taste, potency of simple 16% thc hps bud haha, I think its becoming clear that some of those arrays can do something, maybe...
But most of them just give shit product.
The tech itself is good, if you wanna grow spearmint or just veg some lettuce
Nasa also told u this, but you choose to apply them In flowering essential oil plants lol
No one is dismissing the science, we are dismissing the people who drew wrong conclusions from it
Corpselover Fat
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Yup, more light sources or a bigger light source reduces shadows -> more parts of the plants photosynthesize. For a home grower large led panels are an easy way to achieve very uniform light. For a warehouse grower multiple fixtures do the same thing.
And another thing, the people behind this "conspiracy" as Brother Nature likes to call it, probably cuz his eyes are still glued to Nasa shady papers,
Are well aware they can only GMO weed to an extent, a lot of people still have cuts, clones, seeds, it won't do them much
merit following that road, but ! What if we could make all those people change their lights, we will GMO their plants from the outside to the inside, genius.
And that's exactly what happend, those disinformation agents of dna destruction got you all, me aswell, but at least my brain is still working and I found out the scheme fast.
Stack up on those HIDs boys, they won't be here for long, if you want to get high from weed that's your only option.
Myself I'm gonna switch to opium
Are well aware they can only GMO weed to an extent, a lot of people still have cuts, clones, seeds, it won't do them much
merit following that road, but ! What if we could make all those people change their lights, we will GMO their plants from the outside to the inside, genius.
And that's exactly what happend, those disinformation agents of dna destruction got you all, me aswell, but at least my brain is still working and I found out the scheme fast.
Stack up on those HIDs boys, they won't be here for long, if you want to get high from weed that's your only option.
Myself I'm gonna switch to opium
Corpselover Fat
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Please don't engage it.
