Cloning with JJScorpio

[John Denco]

EEEK ROOTS

EEEK ROOTS

Well, what a good day it is. over the last several days, I decreased the water to the clones and put my light on an 18/6 timer. Some roots are actually showing on the old, 20+ day rapid rooters. EEEK.
Roots. I am already feeling like a pro. It would be really wonderful to have another bunch of plants to plop into the flowering room in four weeks. So, thanks, we are not out of the woods, and some of these critters take quite a while, but it works.
JD, Co.

 

[jyme]

my main problem is i watched a video hans had his cloning down on sea of green. well i dont.i had two root out of 30 well thats a lie there were a few that rooted and died but i have two cuts that are going to make it.lucky for me i took cuts that in a week i could make two cuts. i have a plant that loves being cut i think its a emo or somthing.any way im gunna keep cutting till i have a 80% sucsess rate.

 

[Natagonnaworrie]

Sometimes if you let the rapid rooters start to dry out, it seems like the roots will start popping as they search for moisture

agreed. towards the end (day 7,8,9) letting them dry out a little more makes all the difference. once they start forming, roots grow a lot each day to in search of water. if you see one clone with roots popping through the RR, rockwool, ect its time to cut back on the mousture for the rest... IMO

 

[irenetoleela]

Hi - I'm about to try cloning for the first time, 1/2 indicas and 1/2 from my Super Silver Haze plant. Anything I should know about cloning this sativa plant? I hear indicas are easier to clone - true, or not necessarily?
Also been reading that it's good to do the 45 degree angle cut with sharp razor blade while the just-cut stem (with scissors) is under water. Any thoughts on that?
Thanks!

 

[pease]

my new bible

 

[CMan]

Once clones have rooted and been placed in soil. How far above rooted clones should I place the lighting? Do I treat it like a regular plant from that point forward?

 

[BudGood]

Haven't seen it mentioned, I found a rapid rooter mat, it fits into a standard tray and has 98 cubes all attached together with some scoring to show where to cut. Because I take large clones, so I cut them into 2 block chunks, helps them to hold the clones upright. It makes it alot easier, I used to flip the original Rooters upside down so they would stand up on the larger surface of the top. The cubes cut into 2 piece little slabs eliminates alot of problems I had with the original rooters. A nice product for sure.

 

[John Denco]

I am frustrated because I am maintaining temps at 75, or a little higher. I have gotten two clones out of 14. The rest are kind of sitting there, or dying. I am trying to stabilize the lighting time to 18/6 and I keep a mist on the dome most of the time. Sometimes the RR dry out, and I moistenthem because the plants get all droopy when the RR is hard. I am using Olivias on my clones. The MO in my seed order was stolen so I am relying on clones now. Any thoughts, folks?

 

[BudGood]

Don't let the RR get hard, that is far too dry. They have to be at least somewhat pliable, wet them with an eyedropper or something similar otherwise, making sure that the whole rooter gets moistened. Are you leaving a bit of water on the bottom of the tray?

 

[JJScorpio]

I'll try and answer a few questions in one post.

Never let the RR dry completely. After you have used them a while you can tell by the color. You want to squeeze excess water out of them and just leave them damp.

I don't keep the stem underwater when I cut the 45. I cut with scissors and submerge in water until I get ready to put them in the RR's...

You can keep the light about 6 in over the dome. 50 watts is more than enough.....

 

[JJScorpio]

good tt jjscorpio, im having the worst time ever cloning though.idk what my deal is.all my cuttings die. they dont dry out they turn to mush the part of there stems under the medium rots or somthing.ive took cuttings twice after the first one i cleaned every thing up. the first cuttings were done in jiffy pelets.now i hate peatmoss.the next set was done in perlite not all have died yet but they are looking like death.ive done other plants in strait tap water i may have to go back to what i know works. any ideals for me? oh,yea i tried the one inch standing water method to i sucked at it as well.

It sounds like the RR and the clones are to humid.

Try only spraying the clones the day you cut them, and then just keep the dome lightly spraed. Yours is way to wet and humid. Also take the cover off everyday for a couple min. Make sure the leaves on the plant aren't wet. Just the dome....

 

[John Denco]

Cutting back on moisture?

Cutting back on moisture?

Are these too moist? Too dry? I will cut back on moisture.





thanks jd, co.

 

[KolorBlind]

Thanks a ton JJ

This thread is such a perfect little guide and reminder for my first time cloning. if I feel I have done something wrong I read all your first posts from beginning to end and walk away feeling confident that I have done all i can.

My little gals are 2 to 3 days old and .5 to 5 inches tall. I scored some of the cuts, shaved others, and just cut some 45 degrees. I took 2 clones per plant from 5 plants. I plan on taking 2 from each of the remaining 4 plants I have tonight.

My cuttings were taken during the 2nd week of flower, so Im not expecting them to show roots extremely fast, but so far everything still looks green and not TOO droopy.

Here they are

And my shortest one, which is more of an experiment really. Ever had one make it this small? Ive seen someone do it but I think it was in rockwool, not that it should really matter.

Again, thanks for everything JJ. You have made my first attempt at cloning a hell of a lot less stressful than it could have been. SO nice to find EVERY bit of info I need to get started in one spot. +rep!!


Peace
KB

 

[BudGood]

Are these too moist? Too dry? I will cut back on moisture.





thanks jd, co.

Those look drier than a popcorn fart. The light brown color of the rooters is my first clue, wilting clones the 2nd.

 

[KolorBlind]

I agree with bud. If the rapid rooters have been so dry so many times that they are cracking apart, the clones arent getting enough water from the plugs.

Same thing happened to me with a batch of seedlings and some Jiffy peat pellets. The light would dry the pellet out too fast and it started cracking apart. Once the pellets get that hard the roots wont grow.

Id say start over and give your plugs a pinch every day to see if they feel crunchy or dry at all. If they do, add a LITTLE water. As JJ suggested, a teaspoon full should do. Then after some trial and error you will know when to add water by color and not having to wait till they are almost too dry. Kind of like with watering full grown plants. For me, I can just look at them and tell when they are a day away from needing water. I used to just wait till they started drooping but then trained myself to look for signs before the drooping occurs since it stresses them out a bit.

Best of luck!
KB

 

[bobbyblaze]

I've read most of this thread, and didnt see if you said to soak the rapid rooter? If so should I do it like a rockwool cube? over night in a water with ph of 5.5 and some superthrive? Or just get them wet and go to town?

 

[KolorBlind]

I've read most of this thread, and didnt see if you said to soak the rapid rooter? If so should I do it like a rockwool cube? over night in a water with ph of 5.5 and some superthrive? Or just get them wet and go to town?

The Rapid Rooters should be soaking in room temperature water when you start. You can now take the Rapid Rooter, squeeze the water out of it, poke the pointed end of the meat thermometer into the hole to make entry of the stem easy and place next to the cutting.

I just plopped a few of mine in a large glass of room temp tap water. 1 good squeeze and theyre perfect. Im sure that ph'ed water or 24 hour old tap water would be best, but I have decent tap so I dont bother.


KB

 

[bobbyblaze]

Okay so Im about 5 days in on my clones, Followed exactly as JJ said, Except I scared the stem..

My question is before they root should I expect to have some get wilted? They were fine for the first 4 days, Now about 2 of them are wilted.. Maybe too much humidity? As they get older should I lessen the spaying? or lower the humidity at all?

 

[KolorBlind]

Mine were wilting after about 3 or 4 days as well. I think its pretty normal considering they dont really have a root system yet. I still only sprayed 2 MAYBE 3 times a day and at day 6 I had 3 of them showing roots. 5 were showing last night and I should have transplanted them but didnt.

Im hoping the rest show roots today so i can just transplant them all at once. Ill take pics tonight, I really cant believe how fast the roots popped through, especially for my first try ever!

KB

 

[OPT]

I recently tried my first try at cloning. I put my normal mix in some dixie cups, put on the rooting powder, popped em in, misted, then put a small zip lock baggie over them to keep the humidity up.

I just put them in my window sill instead of under a light, but after about 7 days, i was just too curious and gently lifted them out of the mix, one has started roots, the other hasn't.

My question is, since i know what one of em is starting to root, and I can take them out of there mix without damaging them, should i pop it in a rapid rooter plug. I will eventually want to transplant into a coco medium and make her my mother plant. Just didnt know if this would be wise so early in root development.

Any ideas is much appreciated. (if it doesn't work out and i lose them, it's not a huge deal).

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