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Cloning with JJScorpio

Hank Hemp

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Rapidrooter's

Rapidrooter's

I use to clone with good results, using perlte/verm. and rotone. I used the rapidrooter and I love them. Got near 100% results. :joint:
 

RipVanWeed

Member
I'm not confident with my cloning skills



I've used a few different methods, but currently I have some cuts in a perlite with wick system. I used Clonex this time, Dip n Grow previously.

I'm going to hedge my bets by taking more cuts and dropping them into a bubble cloner. I use bubbled tap water 50/50 with RO. This is the process that worked the best so far. I take a large soup pot, filled with water, airstone in the bottom. Then a piece of HD foil over the top, I poke holes in the foil to hold the cuts.

My question is, should I use the Clonex when using the bubble method?

The 1st time I did bubbling clones it took a long time for some cuts to root, but eventually 90% rooted. This time I'm taking cuts before flipping to 12/12, and I'll be much more vigilant regarding temps.

Please advise.

Respect,
 

sednal

Active member
Quick question. My clones rooted fine, just took a little longer than expected. I put them into 16 oz solo cups when a dozen or so roots were showing and hit them with a tiny dose of PureBlend Pro grow. Some of the tips are starting to lighten more than the rest of the leaf and was just wondering if this is possibly a neut burn or neut deff? put them into straight pro-mix.
 

QuantumFizz

New member
using a DIY bubble cloner I'm able to get solid clones, but when I transplant to soil they all do miserably. About half of them die within 12 hours. Here's an example:

the red circled clones were all transplanted yesterday, most of them have fallen over and are looking bad.

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they all have healthy roots and were put straight into a soil / perlite mix, watered once, and put under a 175w MH. the temperature in the box is 65F and humidity about 50, they are under 24/0 light.
 

dodo5678

Member
Were you using a humidity dome with your bubbler? If so did you give them a chance to harden off? I'm just trying to think what was different between the bubbler setup and the soil setup you moved them to... How about the light intensity or temps?
 

QuantumFizz

New member
Were you using a humidity dome with your bubbler? If so did you give them a chance to harden off? I'm just trying to think what was different between the bubbler setup and the soil setup you moved them to... How about the light intensity or temps?

I did move them straight from under a dome into soil, it must just be too stressful. What do you suggest, opening the dome for a few hours a day before transplanting to soil? I've been misting them several times a day since they were transplanted into soil.
 

dodo5678

Member
Oh yeah man, they are pissed off right now I bet. Since you already transplanted them you probably shouldn't move them back into the cloner. The misting is a good idea. You can also get a clear drinking cup, spray the inside with water and cover them to retain some of the moisture, maybe even spray the plant a little too.

Then take the cup off of them every once in awhile to allow them some fresh air. As time goes on leave the cup off of them more and more. If you notice them getting droopy put the cup back on. You can also cut a couple small holes in the cup to allow a little air in at a time after a while. That may work if you are not around often to tend them. You basically want to wheen (sp?) them off of their dependency for artificial humidity.

Next time around, do like JJ said and after they have rooted, prop open the dome a little to allow air in a little time each day, gradually increasing the time and gap each day, this will allow the plant to adjust to less humidity that exists outside the dome. Again if they start to droop close the dome.

Hope that helps, Good luck!
 

Dislexus

the shit spoon
Veteran
I hate to visit grow shops or take deliveries, so I use the regular old .01% active ingredient rooting powder from walmart/homedepot/lowe's.. I used to clone in peat pucks but the netting is annoying.. also have cloned in rockwool cubes of course.

Currently having 85-100% success rate within 14 days whether I'm using plain ol' miracle gro/expert potting soil or vermiculite as the medium & a dose of Superthrive, in seedling trays. Verm is a bit messy to work with tho, and there is the asbestos risk, and soil retains the water a lot longer.. But basically its all the same to me.

I find giving them a weak foliar feeding around day 12 really gets the roots popping. Oh and I'm cloning under CFLs.

Thats all the anecdotal I got.. I'm just trying to get to 50 posts really :)
 

dodo5678

Member
I hate to visit grow shops or take deliveries, so I use the regular old .01% active ingredient rooting powder from walmart/homedepot/lowe's.. I used to clone in peat pucks but the netting is annoying.. also have cloned in rockwool cubes of course.

Currently having 85-100% success rate within 14 days whether I'm using plain ol' miracle gro/expert potting soil or vermiculite as the medium & a dose of Superthrive, in seedling trays. Verm is a bit messy to work with tho, and there is the asbestos risk, and soil retains the water a lot longer.. But basically its all the same to me.

I find giving them a weak foliar feeding around day 12 really gets the roots popping. Oh and I'm cloning under CFLs.

Thats all the anecdotal I got.. I'm just trying to get to 50 posts really :)

hahaha, 50 for you 5 for me! I really like this forum as everyone is so friendly an helpful. I stumbled upon this sticky 'cause I'm having issues cloning and growing in coco coir. JJ did a smash up job on this one. I finally found out that my success rate was going way down because the medium was waaaay to wet. In a few days I hope to be really happy.

btw, good call on the meat thermometer JJ, I was really stumped on how to go about getting the temp inside the dome.

Thanks again all :joint:
-dodo
 

snufkin

Member
How long can you store your clones in the fridge?

I've got a bunch of clones and a few month long trip coming so that got me wondering if it's possible to store clones for several months. I've heard of people succesfully storing them for a month or two but has anyone ever tried storing for three or four months? And does it make a difference if they're rooted or not? Got my clones already well rooted but I still got time to take new ones if unrooted got a better chance of surviving.
 

dodo5678

Member
Congrats on the rooting! Is there any way you can post a picture of the clone so we can see what it looks like?
 

snufkin

Member
What the.. ? I definitely posted my previous post after dodo had written this:
Congrats on the rooting! Is there any way you can post a picture of the clone so we can see what it looks like?

but still my post went on top of dodos post instead of going below where it should have gone.. strange :abduct:
 

JJScorpio

Thunderstruck
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Good to see everyone is doing so well.

It's very important to harden the clones off to less humidity. You can build a humidity dome out of most anything so after you plant them you can harden them off then.
 

geemail

New member
Can someone tell me what Dome will fit the Rapid Rooter Tray? The GH site does not say
what size the tray is and I want to buy the correct Dome that fits.
 

snufkin

Member
How long can you store your clones in the fridge?

I've got a bunch of clones and a few month long trip coming so that got me wondering if it's possible to store clones for several months. I've heard of people succesfully storing them for a month or two but has anyone ever tried storing for three or four months? And does it make a difference if they're rooted or not?..
Anyone? Running out of time here :puppydoge
 

dodo5678

Member
Anyone? Running out of time here :puppydoge

I wouldn't expect that you could keep them in the fridge very long since there probably wouldn't be any light not to mention good quality air after a while. But I know you can keep them in a glass of water for a good period of time, and even root them in water. You may have roots when you get back. :tree:

I'd say keep them in a glass of water... I believe a weak mixture of hydrogen peroxide will also help much added oxygen in the water to help keep them alive. If you have a few cuttings maybe consider putting some in the fridge and some in a glass of water.... something about eggs in a basket :)

-dodo
 
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