cloning a top?

[KingSkillz]

4 o.g blueberry 7wks in.

 

[KingSkillz]

I tried cleaning them up real pretty. But I was just throwing away bud. I get 7-8 zips of good tight nugs and another 2 zips of airy buds I use for butter.

 

[KingSkillz]

3 weeks from cutting the clone.

3 weeks from cutting the clone.

One week preveg in soil.

 

[Papusadrianus]

[/url] I tried my first cloning attempt about a moon ago-put em in small r/w cubes with hormone after a week left dome off fer a day - no wilt so put em in some soil n perlite n all took hey hey
So yesterday i took the top tip off em all+ 3 other 6 week old plants + some revegged mk ultra cuts- gotta try to fail eh?- some straight in soil n some in r/w - got em on a north facing widowsill-no direct sunlight ann mixed some rooting horm w water in a syringe n gave em all a squirt at the base-fingers crossed these are gonna gve me some serious bud

 

[Papusadrianus]

Dnno why theres 3 pis but whatever hope someone finds this useful i am totally open to advice

 

[chronosync]

Hey good luck. If your looking for a good medium try coco.

 

[Papusadrianus]

Hey good luck. If your looking for a good medium try coco.

Thanks. Chrono ihave onlybeen using soil and perlite but jm open to anything
Any particular reason ??

 

[ugmjfarmer]

If your wondering about whether or not to clone tops: Do it. I do it. top and top until I have enough tops to make all top clones. They seem to root faster than bottoms regardless of what Cervantes says, and they always veg quicker if they take longer to root anyways. GO FOR IT

I have a theory that once you cut the true top off a plant, every shoot that has a chance becomes and tries to become dominate. This spreads hormones to each until one becomes dominate. Then the plant will attempt to christmas tree shape again even though the other shoots have lots of light, hence they bulk up as well. I highly subscribe to mainlining and shwazzing. Both make me tons of buds... I don't care what anyone says.

 

[chronosync]

Thanks. Chrono ihave onlybeen using soil and perlite but jm open to anything
Any particular reason ??

So many reasons....

Roots. Roots grow amazingly well in straight coco, its flexible you can run organic like soil, hydro/inert dtw rules! Or you can run it hydro-organic, its easy AF for a newbie once the initial learning curve is humped. Get a cheap TDS meter, a fish tank pH tester, some maxibloom and good coco, you are ready to rock coco hydro.

 

[The Revolution]

Cannatonic #4

Cannatonic #4

Burying a node or two seems to help. The branch or stem is trimmed there and by doing that you expose the cambium layer as well. It makes sense to me that roots are more ready to form out of the node, the part of the plant that is always ready to differentiate.

I haven't tried prepping a branch for cloning but that's a good idea. I'll try it. I'd like to do some air layering as well.

If you can brush it with rooting gell a week before you cut the clone.

This is exactly what Im currently upto. Had a nice sized side branch of the Cannatonic#4 break. I took it home, recut it/clean, stuck it in a glass of water for 24+ hours. Then I added a small drop of dip n Grow to the glass after changing to fresh water. 48 hours have gone by now, its still sitting pretty very perky and has actually appeared to have grown some. I will keep you guys posted, but I have successfully cloned branches much larger from the top of the plant though it took several weeks to do so.. Plan for this is to let it soak in this solution of water and rooting hormone another 24 hours before putting into a medium. I havent decided If I will use my normal medium, Promix, or a tube of perlite. So far so Good. Apologize for the shitty pic. Gives you an idea of the size of this thing. The plant looks like ass too thanks to slimy fucking slugs. But I got that under control.

 

[The Revolution]

if cloning is your weak link then this is the cloning method for you, go read that thread and if i remember right the concept and principles are clearly laid out in the very first posting and if you follow the few simple rules then you just cannot fail, you may not get 100% your first try but i'd say i'd be VERY surprised if you didn't get at least 70% rooted your very first time, ...the popsicle molds will cost you about 4 bucks on ebay, they come direct from china so they take a couple weeks to be delivered and they have 8 'cells' so, generally speaking, room for 8 cuts, ...i HAVE doubled up too so if you've a need for more than 8 at one time but less than 16 then just put 2 to a cell and it works just fine.

...trust me bro, cloning this way is EASY!!!

...it's also extremely reliable and VERY economical, once you have the popsicle mold and a tray to hold it (look for something in your local Dollar store, or in your regular supermarket where you get sandwich bags and such like, think disposable sandwich containers, ...i was lucky enough to find some in black plastic at my local Dollar store so no worries about algae) all you need then is a bag of fine vermiculite which you can find at a Lowes or HD for about 8 or 9 bucks a bag which will last for longer than you think.

...so cost to run these cloners is like pennies per day.

...if you try it and you like it you might then consider getting the vermiculite from someplace like Amazon, it might be cheaper and you can buy it in larger quantities.

fine horticultural vermiculite

peace, bozo

[URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=65426&pictureid=1572049&thumb=1]View Image[/URL] couldn't be easier...yeehaw..perlite from home depot

Ive been dying to try this cloning method. My current method is sharp works well but I want to try this. Ive had these damn popsicle tubes for months sitting here. One thing, I noticed, was some of you are using perlite, and some are using vermiculite. I have both, what do u recommend I use? Also, How much water do I want in these things? just to the tip of the cut or just below?

 

[chronosync]

I just took a cut from some I just put in bloom, I didn't think they would look this good in flower already getting dusty. I hope it takes since I've finished pruning, if not......I got beans popped and more popping.

Keep that cut in low light and dont let it wilt (%80rh) I've never cloned in or used promix but I clone in straight coco or coco/perlite.

 

[Betterhaff]

One thing, I noticed, was some of you are using perlite, and some are using vermiculite. I have both, what do u recommend I use? Also, How much water do I want in these things? just to the tip of the cut or just below?

Vermiculite, it wicks better. You want to keep the water level just high enough so the vermiculite can wick the water up, 1/4 to 1/2 inch.

 

[justanotherbozo]

Ive been dying to try this cloning method. My current method is sharp works well but I want to try this. Ive had these damn popsicle tubes for months sitting here. One thing, I noticed, was some of you are using perlite, and some are using vermiculite. I have both, what do u recommend I use? Also, How much water do I want in these things? just to the tip of the cut or just below?

yeah bro, if you're gonna use popsicle molds then you'll want to use vermiculite.

...if you go back to my first post in this thread you'll find a link to the how-to thread on this cloning method with all the few simple directions posted in the first post so if you go read that post and follow those directions cloning will become a no-brainer.

peace, bozo

 

[CoCoSativas]

i have 16 plants in veg,all are about 10" tall on about the 7-8 node,i want to top at node 4,and it would be very benefitial for me to clone the tops,but i have never tried,in theory it should work,but the thicker stems make me think they might take a while to root
has anyone had past experience cloning a top of a plant?

I have better clones from top clones than normal branches.

For moms I actually clone th top for the next mom or just another clone, then I wait for the new branches which are now the strong new tops to be ready to clone again ot wait to really branch out whatever I'm doing. Anyway I find tops produce way better clones and root better. The massive root systems off top clones are way better than the shitte little ones from normal clones.

I have 2 out of my current 6 mom's that I took from normal branches and they suck. Oops! They grow slower initially but that's all good, I still have the genetics and once they get thicker they will grow dater.

Ever notice on top clones they are already much thicker? Normal clones have to grow to make that up it takes time and energy just watch the stems thicken on smaller clones they will never match up to top clones.

I've considered Scroggins mom's from now on. More uniform top clones? And when you take a set the new growth from the node will offer twice as many as before but still neatly organized...

 

[stoned-trout]

never had any probs cloning a top ..I tend to like bigger thicker clones not some wimpy undergrowth...yeehaw...

 

[Tonygreen]

pre treating with cloning gel a week before you cut em is nice, get the "swelling" stage happening then cut.

 

[chronosync]

Yo tony, how much do you put on and how many times? Is one application enough?

 

[Tonygreen]

Once is enough for sure, you can just smear it on same as if you was gonna root a cut one. Once you see swelling and a bit of distortion you can cut and roots will usually pop a few days later.


Ive thought about trying to make a lotion for plants you would rub on stems with small amounts of hormones to induce thicker stems, not sure if it would do anything yield wise but maybe eh?

 

[chronosync]

Hmmm very interesting that's a cool idea maybe for hybrids that you KNOW are going to need support, definitely could benefit from some Si and to prep plants for sogging? I'm sure if there was any kind of result people would do it. I know I do every other thing I know to keep my plants happy.

Got me thinking......possibly a healing gel for snapped stems.....ha! A super cropping kit! No way. Splints and prepping gel and some nice scissors.