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[Dave Coulier]

Early Durban Sister-2 5 Week Flowering Update

Early Durban Sister-2 5 Week Flowering Update

Well we are 5 weeks into flowering for the 3 Early Durban girls, and the ladies continue to look excellent. So far, Ive lost no more than 1 or 2 lower leaves on each lady at this point. Ive been constantly monitoring fertility levels before each watering/feeding. Thanks to the info that provides me, Ive been able to tailor each ladies feedings more precisely. Over the last two weeks, Ive been able to increase soil solution ppm levels for all 3 ladies to at least 1K ppm upwards of 1450 for sister 3. Sister 2 is sitting in the middle at 1250, while Sister 1 is at 1K, but she's also the faster flowering of the 3. So far keeping it at 1k to 1500ppm has worked quite well. Still a ways to go though.

I also lowered the plants further from the light source during this period to help alleviate the quick decline in fertility levels the plants were experiencing around the 3 week mark. Currently they sit between 3 ft to 3 ft 6 inches away from the light sources. They had been about 8 inches closer prior.

I hope I can keep them in this type of shape for the next 5 weeks. Im expecting 10-12 weeks before these ladies are ready to be harvested. We will know soon enough.

Currently they smell very sweet & spicy, with a touch of funk in the background. I expect the terp profiles to change somewhat as they progress. Im definitely pleased with the profile generated by the Shit/DP pairing. I think Ill start the small number of remaining seeds I have now that Ive cleared up some space under my T5 banks. Maybe we'll get some different terp profiles from the remaining ones.

Lets get some pics of Sister 2 up now. Ill try to get some closeups of her in the near future.

 

[Dave Coulier]

 

[MaryMaven]

Hi Dave! Wondered where you'd been. Funny how we don't even realize how much we use the net until it goes down, eh? I'm lucky to be as old as I am - I do survive when it happens. But boy, the kids/grandkids go nuts! You'd think the world was ending - ha!

I should have mentioned this sooner, but then the internet went bye-bye for a bit, but when I am cleaning up lower branches, I will actually leave the first fan leaf attached to the main stalk. The sucker branch is gone, but the original fan leaf remains. Does that make sense? Those leftover fan leaves serve as a indicator when we experience a mobile nutrient deficiency, without the problem immediately affecting where bud production is occurring. It gives you a bit more time to correct problems before they spread to the canopy essentially.

F'n brilliant!! I will definitely remember that! I was just thinking the other day what would happen if I had a deficiency now that most of the bottom was gone - how long would it take me to know it...like I said, I've never been a trimmer - at least not to anywhere NEAR this extent before.


Those pictures are beautiful - boy she is filling out so nicely!! And getting so frosty!!


These were taken in haste and are kinda fuzzy, but they are a couple of the (Ace) Early Bubba Hash 17 days into flower. I'll get more in a few days that should be better. They are really starting to smell of rosemary; it's quite lovely. They still have that hint of coffee aroma, but the rosemary is really starting to overpower it. Enough to make me want to make skewers out of the stems for grilling ha!

As soon as the (Ace) Panama x Malawi starts really showing her stuff, I'll definitely get a couple of good shots of her for you!! She's really been stretching lately, and her leaves are starting to thin out a bit and look a little more like a Sativa, but not too much yet.


Have a great weekend!


Peace
Maven

 

[MaryMaven]

L'il Sis is slowly starting to strut her stuff....

L'il Sis is slowly starting to strut her stuff....

(Ace) Panama Goddess x New Malawi Killer...starting to put her party dress on....

She's about 21 days into flower now...


Peace
Maven

 

[TheRealHash]

Ten durban poison seeds just hit a paper towel, I'm going to bump it to the top priority over two other projects I have going. I really like the looks of the early durbans, I'm hoping to find some choice males.



Thanks again for the seeds Dave

 

[Dave Coulier]

Hi Dave! Wondered where you'd been. Funny how we don't even realize how much we use the net until it goes down, eh? I'm lucky to be as old as I am - I do survive when it happens. But boy, the kids/grandkids go nuts! You'd think the world was ending - ha!

It wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be. I caught up on some reading, watched some dvds I had been meaning to watch. Even did some extra work in the garden too! I can only imagine how fidgety the kids become without that net. Its like a drug. You could always make the kids go outside and play, but they'd not understand what you mean

F'n brilliant!! I will definitely remember that! I was just thinking the other day what would happen if I had a deficiency now that most of the bottom was gone - how long would it take me to know it...like I said, I've never been a trimmer - at least not to anywhere NEAR this extent before.

I only wish I had told you sooner, but with how well you are managing your plants, I doubt you'll have any major issues to deal with.

Those pictures are beautiful - boy she is filling out so nicely!! And getting so frosty!!

Thank you Maven. Im quite fond of these 3 ladies. They're happy and healthy, and should produce some fine nugs for me to enjoy. Im getting more excited as we get closer to the finish line. Can't wait to sample them.

These were taken in haste and are kinda fuzzy, but they are a couple of the (Ace) Early Bubba Hash 17 days into flower. I'll get more in a few days that should be better. They are really starting to smell of rosemary; it's quite lovely. They still have that hint of coffee aroma, but the rosemary is really starting to overpower it. Enough to make me want to make skewers out of the stems for grilling ha!

Those Bubba Hash are looking real nice and healthy. I see good things in your future with them. I wonder what they'll smell like in a couple of months. I may have to stop and smell the rosemary next time Im in the supermarket. Im not really sure what it smells like, hehe.

(Ace) Panama Goddess x New Malawi Killer...starting to put her party dress on....

She's about 21 days into flower now...

Peace
Maven

21 days in, and about 100 days to go by the looks of her... I hope you're prepared for the long haul. Whats the expected flowering time on that lovely lady? The pink background seems fitting for her. I like it.

Ten durban poison seeds just hit a paper towel, I'm going to bump it to the top priority over two other projects I have going. I really like the looks of the early flowering durbans, I'm hoping to find some choice males.

Thanks again for the seeds Dave

Thanks for moving the Durbans up on your list. I really appreciate that. I doubt you'll be disappointed with what comes out of them. Hope you get some nice males out of them too.

I was comparing some pics of the Early Durban at week 5 vs the DP original seed run, and they're about the same rate of growth, so maybe not too much earlier. Still its only 3 females so sample size is small.

You're not the only person about to put some seeds down. Ive got 4 more Shit x DP pulled out of the fridge(my last tester seeds of this pairing). I also pulled out my DP x Golden Diesel seeds I made, so Im really going to be running two different versions of Early Durban for the next few months. The Shit is an Afghani Dominant Skunk, while Golden Diesel is a Columbian Gold dominant Skunk. Which will be better....There's also a 3rd option for an Early Durban line. Ive got Shit x Golden Diesel that Id like to run eventually, then pair that with a good Durban. Im looking forward to that day.

I also pulled out some DP x Thai Stick G to run as well. I want to see if I can find some more monster cola plants in those seeds. I believe the odds are good.. In total Ill be starting 30 more seeds. Gonna have my handful with over 90+ plants once the seeds germinate. Oh boy.

 

[oldbootz]

Good luck with the new babies! Its lovely to watch your crosses develop.

 

[ReikoX]

I had to flip mine to 12/12 before they over grow my cabinet. How much stretch did you get of the original DP? How long did they flower? 11 weeks?

 

[Dave Coulier]

Good luck with the new babies! Its lovely to watch your crosses develop.

Thanks Oldbootz. I hope they dont disappoint . Ive added one more to the list Ill be starting. Its DurbanThai x Golden Diesel. The Durban Thai used came from the Durban x Thai Stick G line, so should be some big buds in this hybrid.

I had to flip mine to 12/12 before they over grow my cabinet. How much stretch did you get of the original DP? How long did they flower? 11 weeks?

The original DP didn't stretch very much at all. Less than a 2x stretch if I recall correctly. Your plants look compact already, so I dont think you'll have alot of stretch with your ladies.

Flowering times for the original plants went from 70 Days to 110 Days. Pretty wide range for flowering times. Maybe the F2's will have a narrower range.

 

[Dave Coulier]

Durban Poison F2 Update

Durban Poison F2 Update

When I began the Early Durbans awhile back, I also started 15 Durban P F2's, but sadly I only ended up with 1 female out of the batch. I was hoping for more, so I could see what the F2's would throw out, but Ive got to work with what Mother Nature gives me.

Things started out smoothly at first, but I was feeding the Early Durbans and DP F2's the same feed rate, which was a mistake. The Early Durbans are more salt-tolerant because of the Shit(Skunk) influence. The Durban P not so much. While they're not as sensitive as the Thai, they're also not as tolerant of high fertility levels like the Early Durbans. The end result was fertility levels spiking too high, and growth became very stunted for awhile.

I topped the lady close to 3 weeks ago to try and improve lateral growth, and for the next week or so I saw almost no growth whatsoever. I realized I had been over-feeding and immediately switched to 0 ppm waterings. Fast forward 4-6 days and I began to see growth from the lateral branches. Since then Ive continued with very low PPM feeds. Nothing over 50ppm, and I still work in a couple of waterings a week at 0ppm. Typically watered 3x a week around 24-28oz of solution each time. She's in a 2.5 gallon container I believe. Growth has continued to improve, but I suspect its still on the high side(ill be sticking a suction lysimeter in her tonight to confirm).

She has some slightly clawed tips from the high fertility levels, but new leaves are coming in a lighter, more healthy shade of green now. Perfect timing too as I just put her into flowering 2 Days ago. Ill continue keep feed levels low as she progresses into flowering over the next few weeks. Then adjust based on what my lysimeter extractions tell me.

Alright enough walls of text, lets get to some pics of her already.

A few more pics upcoming.

 

[Dave Coulier]

A couple more photos of some odd fan leaves. These DP always seem to throw out something new and weird each time I run them. Ive never had a plant before that appears to have two fan leaves within one fan leaf.

One thing Ive taken away from this plant is that growth can be stunted from high fertility levels without scorched leaf tips occurring, giving you an indication something is amiss. Now there is some severe necrosis on the very lowest fan leaves, but that occurred around 2 months ago, not within the last few weeks when fert levels became excessively high. That actually happened when I ran out of Dyna Grow for around 2 weeks. I kinda went overboard on ferts when I got my Dyna Grow in. Guess I tried to make up for the missed feedings..Bad idea.

 

[Dave Coulier]

I wanted to share my new EC/PPM pen. Its a Bluelab EC/PPM pen, and so far it works great! I had a combo meter by bluelab before that did ph/ec/ppm, but after 6 years of continuous use it finally died on me. Had a great run with it compared to every other brand Ive tried.

Ive gone through 4-6 Hanna and Milwaukee EC pens before discovering Bluelab. They were all JUNK except for BlueLab. Sometimes failing within the first two weeks, requiring sending in for warranty repair. Only to have the replacement do the same thing, or for it to fail right outside the short warranty period. Wish Id bought a bluelab from the beginning. This pen has a 1 year warranty.

I opted for just the EC/ppm only option this time saving me a bunch of $$$$$. The combo meter(ph/ec/ppm) was $250 back then when I bought it, and the price is still the same now. This bad boy only set me back $60, and has worked flawlessly for a month now.

The best thing about Bluelab is that you do not have to calibrate them very often. I only calibrated my combo meter a few times over the 6 years It worked, and it was always dead on or within 10ppm. Talk about consistent! The Milwaukee and Hanna required constant calibrations either weekly or between uses! Had to waste alot of money on calibration fluids.

If you're in the market for a reliable, affordable pen this is it.

Oh btw, I love the fingerhole grip at the top. Genius design by whomever though of it. Pretty hard to drop your pen in the water when your pinky is wrapped through there. Oh its also water proof just in case you do.

 

[MaryMaven]

Those leaves are so cool, Dave! I'm so glad you notice things like that and take pictures of it for all of us to see. I just love coming in to see what your plants are doing next.


Hey, I posted an update on that cob I did back in October in Tangwena's cob thread!


Icy here today, hope it's warm and safe where y'all are!


Peace
Maven

 

[MaryMaven]

Morning Dave!


The (Ace) Panama Goddess x New Killer Malawi is supposed to go 11-12 weeks, but I won't be rushing her. Heck, if I was able to take that shit weed for well over 100 days, you can bet I'll give her all the time she wants to finish.


She's at 28 days now and her buds are starting to stack in a little....

 

[Dave Coulier]

Those leaves are so cool, Dave! I'm so glad you notice things like that and take pictures of it for all of us to see. I just love coming in to see what your plants are doing next.


Hey, I posted an update on that cob I did back in October in Tangwena's cob thread!


Icy here today, hope it's warm and safe where y'all are!


Peace
Maven

Glad you liked the update. I try to keep it interesting around here.

I saw the cob photos, and I have to say you've done an excellent job on the cob and the photos. It looks incredible! Have you smoked any of it yet?

The cold weather is finally starting to fade away and warmer days are here. I live in the SE US, so winters are very mild here. January is always the worst, but once we get into February its smooth sailing. Hope you get some of that warm weather soon too.

Morning Dave!


The (Ace) Panama Goddess x New Killer Malawi is supposed to go 11-12 weeks, but I won't be rushing her. Heck, if I was able to take that shit weed for well over 100 days, you can bet I'll give her all the time she wants to finish.


She's at 28 days now and her buds are starting to stack in a little....

11-12 weeks huh? Maybe if weeks consisted of 10 days isntead of 7 . I dont think there is anyway that plant will be ready to harvest in another 7-8 weeks. Glad you're not going simply based on breeders timetable. Let the plant tell you when she is ready, and you'll be rewarded.

Those developing buds look really nice, and Im looking forward to seeing how she progresses for you.

 

[MaryMaven]

I saw the cob photos, and I have to say you've done an excellent job on the cob and the photos. It looks incredible! Have you smoked any of it yet?

Yeah, this was on the page before the one with the pictures...

Well, long story short...the cob turned out perfect in every way, save one. The potency is simply not there - seriously, I imagine some run-of-the-mill ditch weed would give you more of a high than this stuff. hrmph....BUT I KNEW that was a possibility. After all, the plant was from accidental seed from an accidental pollination of some unknown hybrid plants grown from bag seed. For all I know, it is just plain hemp - Ruderalis - that was crossed with something to make an autoflowering plant at some point.

BUT, the important thing is, the cob turned out just beautiful, so essentially my mission was accomplished - make a good cob. Now, when I have some GOOD stuff to make one in a couple of months, I will have the confidence that it will be done well. Even though there is no high to be had, I DID notice that the smoke was incredibly smooth, and boy did this burn clean.

11-12 weeks huh? Maybe if weeks consisted of 10 days isntead of 7 . I dont think there is anyway that plant will be ready to harvest in another 7-8 weeks. Glad you're not going simply based on breeders timetable. Let the plant tell you when she is ready, and you'll be rewarded.

Those developing buds look really nice, and Im looking forward to seeing how she progresses for you.

Yeah, I feel the same way - no way in hell she will just go 11-12 regular weeks. What's nice is around week 9-10 I'll be going away for about 3 weeks so I won't even be here to be tempted to take her earlier than 100 days The mister will be taking care of her and all he will be doing is watering her just like I tell him to - he won't know, nor will he care, to look and see if HE thinks she is ready to take.


Peace
Maven

 

[Dave Coulier]

Golden Diesel Clone Update

Golden Diesel Clone Update

Its been about a month and a few days since I transplanted the Golden Diesels from 9oz dixie cups into .75 gallon containers. After the transplant they were moved underneath the 600w Ushio MH. I placed them on the floor of the tent. A good 5 feet away from the light source. Quite far right??

I was in no hurry to get them ready for the flowering room, as its kinda full in there already with the Mr. Nice Shits, Early Durbans, and Repro Durban. Keeping them in the small containers for a month since transplant, and far away from the light source would provide me a bit of slower growth and maybe more compact plants.

So far, so good. Plants are very healthy and fairly compact. Ive been feeding at 150ppm MAX(sometimes only 50ppm feeds) DynaGrow Gro along with 7.5 grams of osmocote/gallon of media, and 10% EWC by volume. I think I found the right mix for these plants. They're some of my healthiest plants Ive grown in awhile. I need to get an extra lysimeter into some of their rootballs and see what ppm values were working with atm.

Leave are very soft to the touch with the near-perfect shade of green. Now if they'd only progress into the 5 bladed leaves quicker. All the clones go from 1 to 3, to 5 finger leaves as they grow, but some do it quicker than others. Maybe we will see some 7 bladed leaves before flowering. Maybe Ill move them into the flowering room tonight...Hmm

Lets get to some pics now.

First this is what the clones looked like a month and a few days ago.

A lil over a month later.

 

[Dave Coulier]

 

[Dave Coulier]

Yeah, this was on the page before the one with the pictures...

Yeah, I feel the same way - no way in hell she will just go 11-12 regular weeks. What's nice is around week 9-10 I'll be going away for about 3 weeks so I won't even be here to be tempted to take her earlier than 100 days The mister will be taking care of her and all he will be doing is watering her just like I tell him to - he won't know, nor will he care, to look and see if HE thinks she is ready to take.


Peace
Maven

Maybe that cob will have some medicinal effects to it to make up for its lack of high. An excellent effort even if it doesn't get you there. Maybe you're next cob will be the real potent one.

Enjoy the mini vacation from the garden. Its nice to have someone to tend to your garden when you're away. A luxury if they know what they're doing. Hope you're husband is just that.

 

[Nico Farmer]

Hello Dave!
Great pics as usual, and congrats to Mary, nice pics too.
Your GD clones looks very healthy; I m waiting for buds
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