Chronics Headstash Garden

[eyesdownchronic]

some mid quality root porn.

i switched over to using hormex no.8, the .8% conc. from just some knock off brand .1%. definitely seeing an improvement in quality of my rooting.

want to get an aerocloner at some point, just have some other equipment on the list that i need to get first. I'm also getting good rooting now, and dipping and sticking has no moving parts that can fail. so its a bit hard to justify investing money on something thats marginally useful.

 

[eyesdownchronic]

Hey Guys,


trying to decide whether Id like to use a hydroton (or some other ammendment) as a mulch, or if I wanna try my hand at a living much. If I were to do a living mulch, it would be predominately Alfalfa (N fixer), marigold (potential pest deterrent), plus chamomile and yarrow. ive read that both of these have properties which can improve essential oil production of nearby crops. Same thing with cilantro. MAybe also toss in a couple aloe plants. and some hot peppers...
I guess the upsides would be keeping the soil covered, plus the roots help break up and aerate the soil. And some of the crops have anecdotally positive effects on nearby plant growth. then with aloe and alfalfa, when it comes to cut back and mix vegetative material back in, it would supply unique compounds, ie tricantinol from alfalfa and salicylic acid from aloe, i think marigolds also have very high limonene content. upsides of the spicy peppers would be i enjoy eating them...

downsides would be plants competing for co2 and nutrients. and other crops being a potential home for pests.

worth noting that i plan to use beneficials. gonna expand my usual re.gimen from andersoni, hypoasis miles, and SF nematodes. to the triple threat nematodes, plus adding green lacewing. im considering implementing rove beetles as well, but would kinds prefer not to introduce those to my place... point being a living mulch could also be a place for my bennies to thrive.


im leaning towards the living mulch but am not sure....


Anyone got thoughts or experience?

TIA

 

[eyesdownchronic]

been mulling it over and think im gonna go with a living mulch.

Started a pretty good amount of seed. Yarrow, Chamomile, Lavender, rosemary, marigold, borage, cilantro. Also some habanero, jalapeno, pepperoncini, and banana peppers. though most of those might end up outside. getting pretty close to be able to move plants into the soil.

Also added a last chunk of organic amendments to load that soil up for all the plants itll be sustaining.

Hoping for the best. Will probably start another thread to more thoroughly document that grow.

 

[eyesdownchronic]

Heres a neat comparison of pure coco vs. the living coco mix i got going.


the living coco is a whole lot darker. seems clumpier too.

 

[eyesdownchronic]

And the plants ready to go in...

right now just under some MH lighting. will be flowering under brand new 480 w QB lighting.

strains are a mish mash of cuts i had been vegging, that mostly didnt make it to keeper status. might as well run them instead of just trashing them. got a kosher, lots of cookie, and a blood orange keeper i tossed in because I have like 4 cuts off it already.

 

[eyesdownchronic]

Here is another tent which is about to be flowered in just a coco/ perlite mix with fert salts.

these are already under 480 w QB and this will be their final flower home.

It will be a pretty interesting comparison to have this run alongside the "living coco" run. Both will be in a same sized tent, with the same lighting. the cuts arent the same, so it wont be a perfect side by side. but both tents are made up of a random selection of cuts which mostly didnt make it to keeper status. also so happens that each run has 3 non cookie and 5 cookie per.

So actually pretty close. I think the cuts in the fert salt tent might be slightly higher yielding but its pretty marginal.

Can't say this will be a perfect one -for - one synthetic vs organic trial. but its not a bad starting point.


this tent has a sour d bx2 from shoreline, alien fighter, larry bear, mule fuel, grateful breath, pugs breath, dosidos, and dosi b.

 

[eyesdownchronic]

some bud shots of the current coco run
wk 6

tonygreens glue RIL (g.b. pheno)

koko (shorter pheno)

koko (taller pheno)

 

[calientecarlos]

Awesomeness!! This will be very interesting!! I run a living coco blend from a local soil place n love it!! Makes me look good..

Those coco colas lookin grrreat!!

 

[Guest]

Looking great

 

[eyesdownchronic]

Looking great

hey dots!

welcome brother

 

[eyesdownchronic]

Set up SIPS last night and all plants are moved in.

Got two SIPS, each in a 50 gal tote filled with about 12 gallons of perlite on the bottom. And then about 35 gallons of soil. with a couple gallons space leftover on top. 4 plants per SIP. Thought I got hard enough plastic, but they're clearly bulging from the weight. Hopefully, they'll be ok. Maybe i can tie some rope around just to give extra support.

Had just the right amount of soil, maybe 3-5 gallons left over.

Hope the soil wasnt too hot but plants are already in so just wishing for the best now...

Planted the seed I had started, plus some more. So far, chamomile, yarrow, marigold, lavender, rosemary, cilantro, borage, and acouple peppers. Still need to add alfalfa. Took some aloe cutting off my big aloe plant so once those root in ill pop em in too.

Marigold, yarrow, chamomile, and borage had already germed. I kinda spread the seed out evenly, in addition to making a couple heavy planting clumps intermittently. And then, i lined the edges with marigold, cilantro, lavender, and rosemary... peppers are planted in spaces opposite of bud plants.

This might also sound crazy but I wonder if i could culture in some lions mane and reishi mushroom in the shade under some plants. I don't really see why not... it would actually be ideal the second run to culture it on some like old thick plant stems when i mix those in, because fungus like to eat on lignin. just create a little spot for em...


Also, damn is that blood orange terpy. the whole plant just reeks of tangerines.

 

[eyesdownchronic]

When i checked the living soil plants this afternoon they looked pretty bad. some mild contorted droopy leaves with some tacoing going on.(my mind raced to HRM, but these plants have been so heavily treated with bennies, plus the conditions showed up right after uppot...) The dosi breath was especially bad, the dosi b in general is really finniky, so shes a good indicator plant. Seems more abiotic, so i figured it was a combination of water stress (its clearly more than just water stress) and nutrient stress. Probably just overall root/transplant shock.

I had only watered in a couple cups per plant when i planted in, so I went ahead and watered a few gallons of OG bio war drench per tote.

Just in case it is those fucking HRM I also decided to go ahead and make an OG bio war AACT with the foliar and root. Added some fulvic and molasses and let it bubble for about an hour. Ended up spraying just about all my plants that arent in flower with it. By the time I got back to the living soil plants they had already perked up substantially, but I went ahead and sprayed them down heavily anyways. gave the soil a little misting to really get those microbes moving...
its always exciting when you try something new...

 

[eyesdownchronic]

When i checked on the Living soil plants this morning they looked significantly better. The Dosi B. is still showing just a bit of leaf curl/ taco, but its significantly less pronounced, and other than that it honestly looks fine. Figure the plants were just shocked from being put in their new home. I guess maybe the OG bio war helped. Think im gonna go ahead and spray with the rest of the brew I got going just for good measure.

I see one lone cover crop has seed has popped up. Not sure on what it is but think its a marigold.

 

[eyesdownchronic]

Wanted to give a quick update of the big cookie run.

For the most part I got good to very good germination across the board. Sadly, the tahoe alien bubblegum and a couple others didnt make it. but thats how it goes with seed germination. I still really can't complain. The exotic (grease monkey f2 and Strawberry lemonade)and relentless (cherry cookie bx2 and rozay f3) all had a perfect germ... accidentally killed a Rozay... but still aint too bad.


I'm definitely keyed in on these packs to try and find a production type cut with nice growth, higher yields, and of course, dank ass cookie nug. I usually prefer to run breeders "parental" lines because might as well run the original source, and I figure they're usually better.
It will also be interesting to see these alongside the sophie...


Seedlings stretched a bit more than i wanted cus I left them in the "germ chamber" too long (just a humid dark room lol). But they seem to be moving along now. Threw them under a HID to really speed them up. Having slow seedlings makes me nervous just because they're so sensitive. They got loaded the fuck up with hypoasis miles and SF nematodes plus ogbw and i dont think ive seen a single fungus gnat around them hahah.

 

[Guest]

Wanted to give a quick update of the big cookie run.

For the most part I got good to very good germination across the board. Sadly, the tahoe alien bubblegum and a couple others didnt make it. but thats how it goes with seed germination. I still really can't complain. The exotic (grease monkey f2 and Strawberry lemonade)and relentless (cherry cookie bx2 and rozay f3) all had a perfect germ... accidentally killed a Rozay... but still aint too bad.


I'm definitely keyed in on these packs to try and find a production type cut with nice growth, higher yields, and of course, dank ass cookie nug. I usually prefer to run breeders "parental" lines because might as well run the original source, and I figure they're usually better.
It will also be interesting to see these alongside the sophie...


Seedlings stretched a bit more than i wanted cus I left them in the "germ chamber" too long (just a humid dark room lol). But they seem to be moving along now. Threw them under a HID to really speed them up. Having slow seedlings makes me nervous just because they're so sensitive. They got loaded the fuck up with hypoasis miles and SF nematodes plus ogbw and i dont think ive seen a single fungus gnat around them hahah.

Thats some killer poppage my friend
I figured the same thing thats why im digging my 2 Headbangers gals that are vegging. Some really 'on purpose' breeding lol. Two of karmas most prized and worked lines in the same mf place at the same mf time. Yes i know im 10 years late to the party but better late than never.
Straightening out my IPM over here too. Thought i had a root aphid problem thankfully turns out they are hypoasis miles. Little beasts found their own way in.
With azamax im drenching and adding to my foliar. And im gonna grab some:

Myco-Force™ is a talc-based formulation containing the beneficial fungal species*Beauveria bassiana,*Metarhizium anisopliae, and*Lecanicillium lecanii.

I have vectobac BTI, which i just sprinkle a few kernels on the surface of the pot. I got the SF aphids, with the price theyre like a once a month deal.
Other then that im not sure what else i could use.

When i checked on the Living soil plants this morning they looked significantly better. The Dosi B. is still showing just a bit of leaf curl/ taco, but its significantly less pronounced, and other than that it honestly looks fine. Figure the plants were just shocked from being put in their new home. I guess maybe the OG bio war helped. Think im gonna go ahead and spray with the rest of the brew I got going just for good measure.

I see one lone cover crop has seed has popped up. Not sure on what it is but think its a marigold.

Gotta be in it to win it. Nice work.

 

[eyesdownchronic]

Thats some killer poppage my friend
I figured the same thing thats why im digging my 2 Headbangers gals that are vegging. Some really 'on purpose' breeding lol. Two of karmas most prized and worked lines in the same mf place at the same mf time. Yes i know im 10 years late to the party but better late than never.
Straightening out my IPM over here too. Thought i had a root aphid problem thankfully turns out they are hypoasis miles. Little beasts found their own way in.
With azamax im drenching and adding to my foliar. And im gonna grab some:
I have vectobac BTI, which i just sprinkle a few kernels on the surface of the pot. I got the SF aphids, with the price theyre like a once a month deal.
Other then that im not sure what else i could use.




Gotta be in it to win it. Nice work.

Why thank you!
The grease monkey and cherry cookie in particular i figure I should be able to find a worthwhile keeper.

And Hey, its better late than never. I'm in the same boat too honestly. working all these mendobreath crosses when that was that fire new new in like 2016 or something... its still fucking killer though...

I ran the headbanger like two years back and found some nice phenos. mostly sour, with one really dank biker leaner (sadly i got no seed from this one...) plus one that had a cool blue tint to it. Pretty interesting. not sure where that woulda came from genetically... i kinda thought it may have been a seed that found its way in on accident. terps were fairly kushy though so idk.
They were good but I wasnt really blown away or anything. (i had fairly high expectations...) I havent got to run the f2's yet but really should...

HAha, I had a similar freak out the first time I tried "living soil" (really just supersoil in pots with noting else lol.) and had "soil mites." think i got some of that "smite" stuff and bombed them so hard, used the whole bottle but it obviously didnt do anything cus they were in the soil lmao.
Funny how far Ive come to applying them... Ive honestly become pretty well versed on IPM and insect Id... Hypoasis miles are really common and if youre growing at the same place for a bit they can finid there way in naturally. they can also be in soil too.

I actually have been able to identify at least like 3 other species of soil dwelling critters other than hypoasis miles... one of them is slightly more elongated than a mite (other than that about the same size) theyre pretty white looking not sure what kind of insect it is kinda look like springtails but they dont jump. another one is more a true insect and has a couple stages, they have wings but i dont really see them fly. and another is a white mite, whereas hypoasis miles is more brown. Quite sure the first eat on debris, and the two soil mites are predators. Havent noticed any damage and theyve been around for a couple cycles so I dont think they cause any harm.
(Not in my living soil, just in my veg area.)


And the living soil plants look bad again today... think they might just be getting dried out because they havent rooted in yet... im not really sure. one of the totes seemed a bit low on water when i checked with my dipstick (lol) , so I added a gallon of water.

hoping for the best

 

[Guest]

Your welcome man, you're doing great work I don't know how I missed ya threads.
Good that I have 6 giesel x sour dieselbx2 for comparison, I'm starting to like them, they're getting funky in veg and every one looks different, at least leaf morphology-wise so far. May the best plant win I won't pull any punches.
I had a short stint at the indo organic water only stylee about 10 years ago. It's not like they make it out to be lmao still that learning curve. But the way to grow imo when it comes to what you're putting in your lungs.
I've got a world of critters in my coco I've come to discover, none look to be detrimental, except the gnats.
I need to catch 'mathew gates' on YouTube, theres a few channels that focus on MJ pests.

 

[eyesdownchronic]

Your welcome man, you're doing great work I don't know how I missed ya threads.
Good that I have 6 giesel x sour dieselbx2 for comparison, I'm starting to like them, they're getting funky in veg and every one looks different, at least leaf morphology-wise so far. May the best plant win I won't pull any punches.
I had a short stint at the indo organic water only stylee about 10 years ago. It's not like they make it out to be lmao still that learning curve. But the way to grow imo when it comes to what you're putting in your lungs.
I've got a world of critters in my coco I've come to discover, none look to be detrimental, except the gnats.
I need to catch 'mathew gates' on YouTube, theres a few channels that focus on MJ pests.

Oh man, I think I heard him talk a couple times on cheap home grows or whatever. I was far from impressed lmao. That whole podcasts is .... idk... ill not comment....

But especially matthew gates. I specifically remember tuning into a podcast they had on russet mite control, and it had to be the least helpful thing ever. I got the impression he tried to use horticultural lingo, not in a helpful way, but in a way that makes it very inaccessible and overly difficult to understand. There is something really enjoyable talking to other hort people, when you can just use all the "horticultural jargon" and such, but the way he did it was so forced and had an inorganic feeling. And the guy hosting the show was like "woah this is so crazy and hard to understand." his recommendations for Russets was pretty much like "youre fucked and there is nothing you can really do from a homegrower POV." oh yeah? i did it. and the beneficials he mentioned arent even really rated for RM. swirskii (whitefly pred and generalist) and califoncius (califronicus is rated for RM, but they are more of a generalist and have a very low feeding and reproduction rate making them ill equipped to fight an active infestiation... they good prevention though... )
I think he also named cucumeris, which is another slow eating generalist. He literally named all three commonly used species of mite predator, except the two you would use...

To combat an active russet mite infestation. andersoni, fallacis, supplemented with hypoasis miles to get soil borne eggs, is the way to go. for prevention andersoni, or cucumeris if you wanna be cheap about it, but really andersoni is good for prevention alone.
I guess ive never watched any of his own youtube videos, so i maybe i should go watch one before I light his ass up... but...

Really, all the info you could need about IPM can be gathered from sites which sell beneficials to commercial greenhouses. "Arbico Organics", specifically, has a wonderful array of information. "Evergreen growers" also has an IPM recommendation specifically laid out for cannabis... linked below....
https://www.evergreengrowers.com/pub/media/pdf/crop_recommendations/Cannabis%20Crop%20Recommendation.pdf
highly reccomend giving this link a read
(just gave that a quick read again. surprised they dont mention orius for thrips, or lacewing for aphids.)

 

[eyesdownchronic]

Your welcome man, you're doing great work I don't know how I missed ya threads.
Good that I have 6 giesel x sour dieselbx2 for comparison, I'm starting to like them, they're getting funky in veg and every one looks different, at least leaf morphology-wise so far. May the best plant win I won't pull any punches.

I heard you mention that strain a couple times and it sounds really good. Who's the breeder on that one?

 

[eyesdownchronic]

Ok, I just listened to a couple of his youtube videos. I stand by everything...

Impending rant, please feel free to skip over this bullshit if you dont wanna read the ramblings of an angry person.


I come from a position where I tried to learn how to grow by reading and gathering info online. ITs great being able to access so much information but a lot of it is unhelpful, or false, or just some companies marketing attempts. Sifting through all this info is very difficult for someone new whos just trying to learn the basics. and i personally spent thousands of dollars, if not more, on products I didnt need or that were upcharged like 100x fold.
After this I was fortunate enough to be able to get a real university level education in horticulture, which gave me an actual frame of reference with which to understand all the information out there.
All this being said, I'm very sensitive about people passing misinformation online, specifically when it is with the intent of profiting off of people who are genuinely trying to learn. Information should be passed with the intention of empowering people to be able to understand whats going on and be able to make their own informed decisions.

So, I am extremely critical of those charading as passers of information when they're just trying to make some change off of uninformed individuals in the cannabis community.

To matthew gates, I dont think he is trying to push a product or has any stock in some product... but... it is clear that he only has the channel to make sub money...

Why do I say this?

The dude is a fucking idiot. Listening to him talk for more than 30 seconds made me literally angry. It straight up sounds like he's reading off of wikipedia. He used words and information which isnt even relevant to the questions being posed, and he doesnt give any form of direct or concrete answer. The way he talks makes everything complicated, not becuase the subject matter is, but because he makes it. The information he gives doesnt seem to be with the intention to teach anyone, but with the intention of making him seem smart, and the content difficult so you have to rely on him and sub to his dumb ass channel. He's clearly a guy not from the cannabis community who just jumped in because he figured he could make some money. Annddd... fuuuck that...

I would love to talk to him for a bit, have him take a couple rips of my weed, and see how much he really knows....


And end rant...
Sorry not sorry