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Chronics Headstash Garden

eyesdownchronic

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Bad Breath f2 from thug pug had tons of genetic variation (much like sophie), with phenos ranging from the ogkb leaner pictured above, to larger framed grateful breath type, to a heavy sophisticated lady pheno . And finally a heavy og leaner. All the phenos other than the og started out with squat ogkb type growth in veg, but more vigor than usual cookie x's from my experience, with the ogkb pheno being the least vigorous and most ogkb looking. The og pheno was totally different looking with thinner leaves and lanky/ viney growth. All the plants started out with loud nasty stem rubs through veg and early flower, other than the og which was almost lemon citrusy. In flower, variation between the ogkb looking plants became much more apparent. the 1 heavy ogkb type grew squat with little stretch and a reasonably thick main cola. Right before her unfortunate demise she was starting to get way frosty, with some slight anthocyanin develpmont, purpling, and the aroma changed from nasty funk to a sickeningly sweet exotic fruit. The gratefuk breath leaners were both much larger framed, but didnt stack up much at all. Very thick flowers though. Smells were candy kush and gas with 1 leaning more towards gas and the other more towards candy. The sophisticated lady pheno was honestly my favorite plant from the whole run (lower nug pictured below). She stayed very tight, only slightly larger than the ogkb pheno, and formed a massive, but tight, cola, that almost just looks like a huge nug. Heavy foxtailing. You could literally see the density in this plant (maybe why she got mold :( ... ) Smells were similar to g.b. pheno with heavy gas and candy kush. LAst pheno was the og pheno which avoided getting any mold due to her lanky growth. Buds arent nearly as thick but the smell is pretty amazing. Turned from almost a citrusy chem to a very exotic fruity funk. Not much sweetness, but a lot of layers.



-lower bud of sophisticated lady pheno
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eyesdownchronic

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Here is the Alien kush giant, who somehow managed to avoid getting mold. Even though the cola is huge, its not as thick as other alien kushes were, and is a bit more spread out.
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eyesdownchronic

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And finally, Ill post some grateful breath pics. This f3 line has pretty consistnent looking and smelling bud across the plants, but a decent amount of variation in plant architecture. Pretty much across the board, plant has sweet candy kush aroma, and popcorn type bright green hairy nugs.
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This pheno was much larger framed than the rest and stacked very nicely. Upper nugs seemed to elongate quite a bit giving it an almost cheesey look.



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This next pheno was much tighter and smaller, maybe half the size, but the bud and strucutrue wasnt all too different.



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This last pheno didnt seem to elongate too much, and formed and extremely thick dense cola
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Honestly impressed she didnt get any mold
 

eyesdownchronic

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Wanted to highlight some interesting phenotype variation I'm getting from some Pre-98 Bubba kush x OG2 seeds in veg. I've read that the bubba is usually dominate in x's, however this line is totally dominated by the og side. Out of 9 plants 2 are bubba leaners (1 very heavy bubba leaner) maybe 1 or 2 are heavy og dom with slight bubba, and the rest is straight og. I'm thinking that I'm maybe seeing this og dominance for two reasons. 1) most genetics out there arent very genetically stable, whereas the OG2 is a inbred og line from loompa. 2) Ive read that there is some consensus around bubba being an og x nL (afghani). So, if there were the case, crossing an (og x nl (afghan) ) x og ibl would result in a 75 % og cross, which would actually translate into what I'm seeing in phenotypic distribution. So, pretty much a long way of saying this seems to be more circumstantial evidence (pretty flimsy at that) to the bubba being an og x afghan cross.

And here is a pic of an og leaner and the heavy bubba leaner side by side, picture doesnt do great of a job showing how large bubba leaners leaves are. also sorry for poor lighting

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eyesdownchronic

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Wanted to update my seed germ on the alien run. I ended up getting late germ and some reinforcements.4 alien cookies f2 (relieved about this one) , 7 alien tarantula, 4 alien fighter, and 2 atl pebbles. Hopefully atl pebbles will be only the scrap from the run. (no m/f pair.) Ill have to delay flower by a bit to get to size, but its worth being able to run everything .
 

eyesdownchronic

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Welp, I havent really posted much of anything lately because I got hit hard by them russets. At first when I got the beginning of 'taco" damage, my mind went to russets, but I was unable to scope anything, so I figured it was maybe a temp or humidity problem. The damage also seemed to only affect the largest plants, which were getting somewhat over grown so I was thinking it could even be a root issue. However, after some uppots and tweeks nothing seemed to improve and a much larger amount of plants were affected. At this point I decided to go ahead and spray even though I was unable to make a postiive Id. I used neem, spinosad, green cleaner, and then pyretherin and a partial S application over the course of about a month and nothing seemed to help. It was abut this point that I both had to trigger into flower / I finally made a positive Id once a solid chunk of plants were already about dead. The damage more or less terminated the apical growth. So, finally I ordered some beneficials and after a few weeks everything seemed to clear up. The plants that did make it are practically worthless as far as yield so it may have been best to just dispose of everything, but at least I got the experience of beating the russets I guess. I dont think Ill ever go into a grow without using beneficials again. I also havent made any new seed pops and plan to have a clean stop and then a fresh restart so these fucks dont stay around.

At around the same time I also got hit by the worst fungus gnat larvae infestation Ive ever experienced. Fungus gnats are practically always around, but with these guys I actually Identified the larvae first. They are these pretty big round maggot looking things that have translucentish white color with a very clear black head. I had never even seen one before and was trying to figure out what they were and then realized they were fungus gnat larvae, so I thought, oh whatever. But, these guys were capable of eating through stems and leaves lying on the ground, and even able to feed on the base of the stems of fairly large plants. These guys actually took out about as much as the russet mites did which is almost unthinkable. I was using mosquito bits, which did jack shit, but SF nematodes, hypoasis miles and fly traps took em all out after a few weeks. Again, neveer gonna grow without bennies.

I suppose in every bad grow, there is a positive learning experience.
 

eyesdownchronic

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Did harvest some plants that were already flowering and werent affected. The purple pug f2 and rugburn f2, and then the motor city fighter from glg freebies.

The purple pug f2 which came from a mendo montage leaning f1 was a ver y nice display of different purple plants. They ranged from a deep purple with tons of orange hairs, to a medium purple lavender, and then finally a very light violet. For the most part terps were the same across the board with the flavor being the oily catpiss punch from the mendo montage. The dark purple yielded about twice as much as the other two, but the quality of the smoke wasnt too great. The two lighter phenos were practically the same other than the difference in bud appearence and both had a fairly strong stone, and good flavor.

The rugburns were alright in my opinion. The terps were an herbal lemony kush, that werent overly appealing. That being said, the flavor rang true, and the high was a strong uppity get shit done type weed that was good for cleaning the house or reading. So all in all, not bad, but not one I reached to often.

The motor city fighters were the absolute winners. Cross is motorbreath 15 x Long bottom fighter and the motorbreath mother definelty seemed to dominate in flavor. Flavors ranged from aerosol chem mixed with a heavy earthy coffee kush base, to a more exotic grapefruit chem from the LBF. Absolute head knocker stone. Plants grew strong and tight with dense extremely caked flowers. Truly one of the best crosses Ive ran to date, and from a pack of freebies no less.
 

eyesdownchronic

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Here is a photo of the three purple pug phenos with the order being medium purple, to light, to dark.

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And here are two representative phenos of MCF

The left one is the LBF leaner which has a bit more of an open bud strcuture, more frost, and an exotic chem nose. The right hand nug leans more toward the motorbreath with a much earthier nose.


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The frostier LBF leaner

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eyesdownchronic

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Here is a mislabeled grateful breath f3 just from how it looks im guessing it was from the f2 chem type leaner.

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And here is some Lucid Blue f2 (Blue Dream x Grateful Breath), actually really liking this cross. I know the blue dream has had its rep dragged through the mud, but if I can find a more potent Blue Dream flavored plant I would be quite happy.



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eyesdownchronic

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High School Sweetheart F2 (#2 line)

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Apologize for the poor quality of the first pic. OF the three HSS lines , (original, #2, and #5.) only the #2 seems good so far. The plants are nice statured with broad leaves, much like described by gage. however, they have a surprisingly tropical bright candy type of stem rub, not that its bad. The first one pictured is an absolute stud and is about 50-75% larger than the rest. Plants from the original line, and #5 are consistently large framed lanky plants with little bud development going on so far. Stem rubs seem similar to #2.
 

CannaRed

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Did the russets get all of the alien tarantula?
I think I have 7 or 8 in the fridge.
I grew 2 males a couple years ago that I gave away. They had huge leaves for the small size of the plants.
 

eyesdownchronic

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Did the russets get all of the alien tarantula?
I think I have 7 or 8 in the fridge.
I grew 2 males a couple years ago that I gave away. They had huge leaves for the small size of the plants.


Hey, thanks for stopping in.

And no :greenstars: they did not get em all. Have 4 ready to go into flower now.

And I can definitely see that. I have 1 somewhat smallish plant with massive janky looking 3 bladed leaves. Another one has some weird 3 cotyledon growth habit and naturally split into two tops.

Did you get any dried flowers? Wondering what I should be looking for terp wise.
 
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3 male phenos of FPOG f3 new release from JAws.





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All the FPOG seemed fairly uniform in leaf morphology and overall growth in veg, but are showing thier true form in flower. The plant on the left was the best plant from the whole run. FPOG f3 #1. Plant was just more vigorous and more asthetically appealing than the rest. Now its definetly showing off some hardcore early flower stretch, like 2 - 2.5x. Stem rub is straight skunk ass so it seems like a tahoe alien leaner.

Middle plant has no stretch so im guessing it leans more to the GDP x Green Ribbon mom? Still has a skunky stem rub. no cereal.

Plant on the right seems like a tahoe alien leaning hybrid.



There is one fem which grows more like the middle male, with less vertical growth and stronger branching, and seems like the cereal pheno, as its terps are a fruity sweet milk. Like the leftover milk from a bowl of fruity pebbles.
 

eyesdownchronic

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Say hello to "Prophet" the Kosher f4 stud.

Pic doesnt do any justice. This plant was selected as a juvenille for its over the top loud nose. Was working in the veg tent getting straight whifs of fire, tried to figure what it was and it was just a little seedling that when moved absolutely reeeked. Never had anything like it.

Lo and behold, it ends up being a male, and now that kosher is at f4 it might be time to do some outcrosses to see how the kosher breeds/ what traits it passes. Time to throw some pollen...
 

CannaRed

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Hey, thanks for stopping in.

And no :greenstars: they did not get em all. Have 4 ready to go into flower now.

And I can definitely see that. I have 1 somewhat smallish plant with massive janky looking 3 bladed leaves. Another one has some weird 3 cotyledon growth habit and naturally split into two tops.

Did you get any dried flowers? Wondering what I should be looking for terp wise.

I only grew the 2 males that I gave to a buddy.
I still have the rest of the seeds in the fridge. I need to pop them one day. I've never seen any pics of the plants in bloom.
 

eyesdownchronic

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I only grew the 2 males that I gave to a buddy.
I still have the rest of the seeds in the fridge. I need to pop them one day. I've never seen any pics of the plants in bloom.


Yeah, the only pic ive seen is the generic one on SHN from obsoul himself. Well, hopefully Ill have some good pics here soon.
 

eyesdownchronic

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Lucid Blue f2

Blue dream leaner

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Blue dream leaning hybrid

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Grateful breath leaning hybrid
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Lucid blue came out well. Most of the line seemed to be dominated by the blue dream, with improved potency. Blue dream leaners were higher yielding with beautiful fade and bag appeal, grateful breath leaners had a bit more nose.
 

eyesdownchronic

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Grateful breath f3 unknowns had great spread. candy kush, to orange hair cookie, to cookie chem. all have top notch potency with a loud nose and plenty of frost. The cookie chem pheno had unreal bag appeal, nicknamed ogcb ( og chem breath)

ogcb cut buds

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eyesdownchronic

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Now that the High School Sweethearts have grown into form the cpk vs grateful breath leaners have become very apparent. At first the stretch and tiny bud development on a majority of the plants was concerning, but it seems they were just cpk leaners which apparently have lots of stretch. GGG never posts full body shots of cpk, or talk about the stretch. in any case, the buds are beautiful, but small and sparse. Nose on the cpk leaners has developed into a deep cookie funk.


HSS f2 cpk leaner

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Grateful breath leaners have tight internodal length and form much larger colas. Nose is a bright spree candy mixed with skunk spray, somewhat reminiscent of sophie.
HSS f2 G.b. leaner

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