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Chocolate Thai Revival
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stellarjay
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now this ain't very high tech, but alfalfa tea might assist you in getting those seeds going. you can buy alfalfa pellets at your local farm store pretty inexpensively, $15.00 for 50# bag, or alfalfa meal at various places in smaller quantities. forget the npk ratios in alfalfa, it's the other goodies it contains that you're after.
in a food grade bucket mix a cup of alfalfa pellets in a couple gallons of "clean" water. when i make 5 gallons i use 2-3 cups of pellets. let the pellets soak for about 30 minutes stirring a few times along the way to make sure the pellets all break up.
secure an air tight lid on bucket and let it sit for 3 or 4 days. either room temp or outside temp is ok. i make it in the summer when it's 90 degrees plus and leave it outside in the shade. works fine. i've left it brewing for over a week before and no adverse effects. no need to check/open bucket while brewing and do not open bucket inside a living area as it's going to stink.
once opened stir it up good and then strain it through a pillowcase or similar item. mix about a cup or so of the strained liquid in a gallon of clean water to soak seeds in. water soil with same before and after placement of new sprouts.
i use this mixture on my seeds and experience has shown me this mixture makes for a potent, non burning feeding right from the start promoting quick and hearty growth to plants both above and in the soil. on young plants during veg i've seen them stretch a couple inches overnight after a watering with this mixture. leaves will curl and do funny stuff before returning to normal. limbs can thicken up over night too and roots will take off!
i use this mixture throughout the entire life cycle (not every watering) and it's turned out to be one of the best things i've ever done. it's also fun to watch how the plants respond too. i've noticed the younger the plants the more "quick" the changes are to transform the growth of the plant. perhaps this will make using it on your older seeds even more profound? i honestly don't know, but i wouldn't hesitate to try.
i've never tried to crack old seeds using this mixture, but since you have so many seeds to work with...
good luck to ya! now get cracking!
in a food grade bucket mix a cup of alfalfa pellets in a couple gallons of "clean" water. when i make 5 gallons i use 2-3 cups of pellets. let the pellets soak for about 30 minutes stirring a few times along the way to make sure the pellets all break up.
secure an air tight lid on bucket and let it sit for 3 or 4 days. either room temp or outside temp is ok. i make it in the summer when it's 90 degrees plus and leave it outside in the shade. works fine. i've left it brewing for over a week before and no adverse effects. no need to check/open bucket while brewing and do not open bucket inside a living area as it's going to stink.
once opened stir it up good and then strain it through a pillowcase or similar item. mix about a cup or so of the strained liquid in a gallon of clean water to soak seeds in. water soil with same before and after placement of new sprouts.
i use this mixture on my seeds and experience has shown me this mixture makes for a potent, non burning feeding right from the start promoting quick and hearty growth to plants both above and in the soil. on young plants during veg i've seen them stretch a couple inches overnight after a watering with this mixture. leaves will curl and do funny stuff before returning to normal. limbs can thicken up over night too and roots will take off!
i use this mixture throughout the entire life cycle (not every watering) and it's turned out to be one of the best things i've ever done. it's also fun to watch how the plants respond too. i've noticed the younger the plants the more "quick" the changes are to transform the growth of the plant. perhaps this will make using it on your older seeds even more profound? i honestly don't know, but i wouldn't hesitate to try.
i've never tried to crack old seeds using this mixture, but since you have so many seeds to work with...
good luck to ya! now get cracking!
Blind Joe Death
Active member
DutchFlowers Chocolate Thai F5 is currently available, if anyone is looking for it right now
Count me in! Would love to try these
Never say never.
Never say never.
Hello everyone.
Still have some in the fridge and will try a few more this summer. Try some different techniques and read over this again for any ideas.
These were gifted to me by my friend and the guy he got them from is long dead. Stored in his basement going back about 30 years.
They were from original Thai bricks brought in and had the country of origin stamps on packages. So it's a bit upsetting to not get them to go.
My friend said it was long spindly branches and didn't look like much, but was the best he had smoked. Chocolate goodness.
Will keep you updated when I start them.
Take care.
Never say never.
Hello everyone.
Still have some in the fridge and will try a few more this summer. Try some different techniques and read over this again for any ideas.
These were gifted to me by my friend and the guy he got them from is long dead. Stored in his basement going back about 30 years.
They were from original Thai bricks brought in and had the country of origin stamps on packages. So it's a bit upsetting to not get them to go.
My friend said it was long spindly branches and didn't look like much, but was the best he had smoked. Chocolate goodness.
Will keep you updated when I start them.
Take care.
bestothebest
Active member
Can’t wait man. The next act of the show goes on!
xet
Active member
Great project.
If it were me I would:
1. Dip the seed in SST (Seed Sprout Tea)
2. Direct sow into a fungally active soil rich in Endophytic Fungi
3. Keep soil moist/bag over top, maybe even ensure a climate on the warmer-end of germ temps
Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxjwCEBJqfM
Best of luck.
Anne_Fetamine
Member
Interesting thread! It looks like a lot of seeds germinated from the pics I saw... did they just not end up sprouting after the initial opening of the seed? Or what exactly went wrong? (I didn't read every page of the thread but it's incredibly disappointing that not even one plant would survive to adulthood!)
If it were me, I'd probably only try germinating one or two seeds at a time so if they didn't make it, I'd still have a ton more left to work with. But I know the likelihood of them surviving decreases over time so that may not be the best strategy, especially if you're growing outdoors & have a limited time each year to plant.
Anyway, best of luck OP! This is a really cool "gift" you've stumbled upon. I didn't know this strain still existed anywhere.
If it were me, I'd probably only try germinating one or two seeds at a time so if they didn't make it, I'd still have a ton more left to work with. But I know the likelihood of them surviving decreases over time so that may not be the best strategy, especially if you're growing outdoors & have a limited time each year to plant.
Anyway, best of luck OP! This is a really cool "gift" you've stumbled upon. I didn't know this strain still existed anywhere.
archaicatoms
Active member
Updates?
Night4wings20
Active member
I'd love to hear about what's happening with these. I've heard so much about the thai sticks/chocolate thai of old
Hello Everyone.
The seeds I tried so far only germed and never came up. They seem to be ok germing, but too weak to grow more.
From suggestions and reading I determined the only way to get these to go is by using GA3.
So I ordered some 90% GA3 and will let you know when I receive it. I've never used it before and any help is appreciated.
The seeds I tried so far only germed and never came up. They seem to be ok germing, but too weak to grow more.
From suggestions and reading I determined the only way to get these to go is by using GA3.
So I ordered some 90% GA3 and will let you know when I receive it. I've never used it before and any help is appreciated.
mayorofthdesert
Active member
i used to get chocolate thai in the early 90's, loved that stuff.
These seeds are from the 80's.
Came in pressed bricks with the country of origin stamp.
Buddy loved it and said it was the best smoke at that time.
He saved all the seeds from it in his basement and gave them to me.
A Canadian basement can be almost as good as any fridge.
Came in pressed bricks with the country of origin stamp.
Buddy loved it and said it was the best smoke at that time.
He saved all the seeds from it in his basement and gave them to me.
A Canadian basement can be almost as good as any fridge.
Night4wings20
Active member
I would suggest this @Zanddar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tehCb0Zbi1M&has_verified=1
He uses 100-150-200 ppm to test how much he needs. My worry regarding your old CT seeds is that the weed was fermented. If so the seeds might not be viable since they MAY have been cooked during fermentation. Hopefully not since they are special
Good luck mate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tehCb0Zbi1M&has_verified=1
He uses 100-150-200 ppm to test how much he needs. My worry regarding your old CT seeds is that the weed was fermented. If so the seeds might not be viable since they MAY have been cooked during fermentation. Hopefully not since they are special
Good luck mate
I've tried sterilizing the seed in h2o2 and bleach for just a few minutes. Maybe I need to do it longer?
Put some on a heating pad with thermometer so I didn't cook them. They were in water.
The shoots grow a very small amount, then no more. They look real heathy though.
Put some on a heating pad with thermometer so I didn't cook them. They were in water.
The shoots grow a very small amount, then no more. They look real heathy though.
