Chemdawg D (??) vs Pacific's G13...

[Guest]

awesome news! mss is definately a rare one to come across.

 

[Breezy420]

Case of the mysterious Chem solved!

 

[Guest]

good to know

 

[damakkus]

After a nice taste test and a double check with chem that mystery strain is actually Mass SS. A lot of growers keep that strain in their garden, including chem.

Seems like a simple case of a mislabel...

Just curious if that taste came from O as she mentioned there was a pow wow.

So is it solved? confirmed 100% without question that CheMystery is Mass Super Skunk.

 

[cannigrow]

Glad that got cleared up. There should be no trouble identifying MSS when smoking it, or looking at pics...

 

[HocusPocus]

Glad that got cleared up. There should be no trouble identifying MSS when smoking it, or looking at pics...

would you call it a mersh cut?

 

[beancounter]

lol, mystery solved? jus like that?

MSS? I dunno... me and my bro are skunk lover's to the absolute max, and we're both familiar with all of the descriptions and pics that has been posted on MSS..

MSS is said to reak in flower, but the cure takes some/alot of the skunk away.. she is a big yeilder, but I don't think she makes colas quite this way.. at all, from the pics i've seen. All I know is my bro would have been freakin' if he had any sorta MSS RKS smell to that plant during flower..

I'm not saying chem's wrong, but I don't think this cut is MSS, any of the 'good' chems, or anything special.. to each their own and all, but you'd think a skunk lover would have some love for the Mass :wink:

 

[Guest]

well either someones bullshittin, or chemdawg is confused, didnt swerve say he talked to chem and he said it was chem91 cut?? some pages back.

now chem says it MSS, hehe......someones pullin my leg

CBF

 

[ograskal]

I have heard that MSS is nothin realy special myself........~ogr

 

[Guest]

I have heard that MSS is nothin realy special myself........~ogr

heard the same a few times. one of those cuts that doesnt have Mass appeal, hehe, think Hieagle still keeps it in his garden, seems hes had it for sometime.

CBF

 

[Guest]

all i know is im avoiding this cut. too much speculation for me, i like my genetics 100% confirmed. i'll stick to the tried and true, i have no time or room for something like for ex-chem d/chemystery/mss?

 

[beancounter]

MSS has been on my wish list since i read JK's description, altho i know he's not always spot on..

But after talking to a few who have grown it, it sounds like nothing unreal, and it's certainly not the Road Kill Skunk everyone's looking for..

At the same time, I would grow her, and I can still get cuts of the Mystery Mass Chem Super Dawg but I respect my bro's judgement, senses, and Skunk knowledge way too much to doubt him..

I'm still curious why danko hasn't chimed in... not tryin' to start anything, but i would guess that's the best source for real info..

 

[cannigrow]

would you call it a mersh cut?

huh?

ONe thing I'm pretty sure of about MSS is that it's got a bit of genetic variation from so many years of cloning, and I think there are slight differences. I think JJnyc said something similar and I noticed that when i got it, there were two "phenos" - one is a bit stretchier than the other but they're almost identical in smell and structure. Bottom line, I've smoked it many times, and although there are strains I'd prefer, I think it's always quality.

MSS -

 

[Guest]

MSS has been on my wish list since i read JK's description, altho i know he's not always spot on..

But after talking to a few who have grown it, it sounds like nothing unreal, and it's certainly not the Road Kill Skunk everyone's looking for..

At the same time, I would grow her, and I can still get cuts of the Mystery Mass Chem Super Dawg but I respect my bro's judgement, senses, and Skunk knowledge way too much to doubt him..

I'm still curious why danko hasn't chimed in... not tryin' to start anything, but i would guess that's the best source for real info..

I think it's obvious from your bros info and O's discription of her misterycut(now mss ) that the cut you got from O is not the same as hers, which she originally thought was Chem D, since that's what Danko told her and other people. The pictures of your cut looked like bigbxnl or bigxsk1 or some other common cashcrop. Whether she accidentally sent you the wrong one or it was intentional is not for me to judge so I wont throw fuel with my ignorance. But just from looking at her history from the outside she seems to be a straight up honest person.

 

[Guest]

No way is the cut bean posted MSS, either that or every other pic of MSS Ive seen was not it

guerilla

 

[beancounter]

yes, no way indeed g.. and to elaborate further, no way, IMHO is the cut O posted in flower, MSS either.. Her pics look way closer to my bro's than they do to any pics of MSS, jimmy's, sunsim's, CannaBible's.. etc..


As I posted in the other thread, it seems more likely that the 'samples' that were 'confirmed' as MSS were in fact ECSD (from me) that she mislabeled or mixed up.. I jus don't buy it.. all this back and forth, all this flip-floppin'.. as CBF said, someone's pullin' our chain and more on this one..

There was no mislabeling on our end.. so, as I said in the other Chem D thread.. O should be able to tell us what our cut is if she indeed mixed it up.. we've given a great report on it, posted pics in veg and flower.. that should be enough info to figure this out.. shouldn't it?

The only thing I am 100% sure to label in my mother room is the Urk/GDP family because I can tell u what every other clone is jus by lookin' at it.. I do label new cuts, but by the time they're rooted I can tell the difference.. I can tell Abusive, Oger's, and ECSD apart in a heart beat.. but I will label the SFV and other OGKs as I get them to be sure.. I will also label multiple Bubbas jus to be safe, but can usualy tell them apart..



I hadn't read all the other stuff about this cut in the other thread.. the more i read the more it confuses me, and the more it bothers me.. It seems as we keep getting further from the truth than closer..

and with that said, I am not gonna waste any more of my time on this cut, it's already been enough..

I've said my piece, peace..

 

[Guest]

yeah, i definately dont think that looks like mss. anyone remember jimmy's pics? thats what i think of when i think mss.

as far as mislabeling, after i have vegged a plant, i dont even label them. its soooo easy to tell whats what just from everyday maintenance. i dont understand how people mix up plants they have grown all the way through. anything i grow i could pick out of a full closet any day of the week.

 

[JDOG6000]

I agree H&L. How can someone mix strains up when they look so different.
I can understand a small unlabeled clone getting mixed up.
But not a big plant.
In flower I don't label anything. It's so obvious to me,whats what it seems like a waist of time. Because when I did label them ,I never used the labels anyway. lol
Not even inveg really. Everything looks too different to mix em up.
But I label my veg plants anyway, just to be safe.

I agree that this isn't the MSS.
It looks like a chemdawg pheno or a hybrid to me. I have one in veg that I'm gonna flower out just to see whats upwith it.
See if it stands up to my #4 and 91 chemdawg.
And compare it to the D in the future. But I'm not keeping a mom, I don;t think.
Too iffy.
I'd rather wait for the verified D cut to keep as a mom. Plus I can get another clone of it, if I want.

 

[Guest]

I do label clones and have had a mixup on occassion. Sometimes I have as many as a dozen strains going at once and some of them are related so when they are small they share many traits. I do have to agree though that by the time they bud I can tell them apart pretty easily. I can understand how a small clone can be mislabeled and we should keep in mind that the clones were small when they changed hands. Also if Outcast obviously had no experience with the strain she was given before she grew it so even finished she'd have no way to tell what it was. As far as someone else who has the strain being able to recognize it from pic and a description, that might be tougher than it sounds. If they had it in their hands that might be a different story but to try to verify 100% from online might be tough.

My opinion ain't worth shit really but I still think it was a simple but unfortunate clone mix up done with absolutely no malice. Too bad it happened but from the pics and descriptions it seems to me the "mystery cut" has quite a bit of merit on its own. The yield looks crazy, I wish the D yielded like that! I'd grow more of her, lol. Actually, I can only grow a few at a time because she is so stinky. I have three ladies at about 41 daze and those three throw out more funk than the other twenty ladies (about ten different strains) in the closet with them. Chem D is lanky, stanky and just plain danky.

 

[JDOG6000]

Ya, I agree.
I wasn't trying to talk shit.
I was just giving my opinion on the matter.
Small clones can be confusing, no doubt.
Especially if they are related. Thats why I label everything just incase.
My Bubba and old OG (Maybe another Bubba pheno but's more like an OG Kush,kush pheno) are very similar looking.