Chanting Growers Group

[PassTheDoobie]

what kind of meeting are you talking about bonz?

It's an SGI meeting about Nam-myoho-renge-kyo and the practice of Nichiren Daishonin's Buddhism. Your closest one can be found by searching here:


http://www.sgi-usa.org/thesgiusa/findus/allcenters.html

Then call the number of the center closest geographically to you and they will give you the number for a local discussion meeting being held, more than likely, in another person's home. They are everywhere and you will be shocked to find that there is in fact one close to you. Check it out!

 

[PassTheDoobie]

"Thrust aside evil friends and associate with good companions."

(The Real Aspect of the Gohonzon - The Writings of Nichiren Daishonin, page 832) Selection source: SGI President Ikeda's speech, Seikyo Shimbun, December 12th, 2006

 

[Guest423]

don't doubt yourself bonz, say what you mean and if it comes from the heart it's real, i do this alot...yeah sometimes it gets me in trouble...but it is what i'm truely thinking and i how feel. you did a good job of explaining it and i understand whats going on here, you other guys helped out alot too! i'm sure i'll be getting to know you guys a little better in the future.

i'll take all of you peoples advice that helped me with my question and read this thread, i don't fully understand but i get the jist of it, sounds great, i like to learn new things and learn about things i don't understand...it intrigues me, knowledge is power. i like to expand my herizons and soak up as much knowledge i can.

my main questions are- how do you pronounce Nam-myoho-renge-Kyo? and do you sit down and actually chant this outloud? for a certain amount time? or when u feel you need a strength to get through something? in the mean time i'll do some more researching.....thanks guys

Nam-myoho-renge-kyo!

 

[Bonzo]

Thanks T2U. Im gonna do my best at relsying how to pronounce Nam myoho renge kyo, borrowing from when T was describing how to pronounce it.

Nam. as in vietNAM

Myoho as in ME and you. and oho, well just the way it looks OHO the ho being pronounced as in Santa saying Ho Ho Ho just add an O before it OHO just as it looks, just put tham together MEOHO, Myoho

Renge as in the maRENGE

Kyo as in KEY-O again all as one KEYO, KYO!!!

NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO!

And yes it is chanted out loud in large groups, small meetings, and by yourself.

Hope this helps as i hope to see more of you here!!

peace and love

bonz





>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nam myoho renge kyo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[Bonzo]

I allmost forgot, we chant daily T2U, not waiting for an obstacle and then chanting for it to go away, the more you chant , the more your Buddha nature will surface and you will be able to see much clearer how most mountains we create or come are way are actually molehills, i could go on but i want to keep it as simple as i can for now, but thats the jist of it.

peace

bonz

dont hesitate to ask if you want to know more.



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nam myoho renge kyo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[PassTheDoobie]

Well done Bonz!

Well done Bonz!

Let's try to have courteous and sincere conversations
with as many people as we possibly can and
help them to make a connection with Buddhism and its philosophy!
It is through such dedicated endeavours that kosen-rufu is achieved
and how we will certainly be embraced with great benefit.

Daisaku Ikeda

 

[Guest]

Where did easy go?

 

[PassTheDoobie]

To observe his mind. He's the only one that can take a look. I hope he sees what there is to see.

I have faith that he will.

 

[PassTheDoobie]

A woman who embraces the lion king of the Lotus Sutra need not fear any of the beasts of hell, or of the realm of hungry spirits and animals. All the offenses committed by a woman in her lifetime are like dry grass, and the single character myo of the Lotus Sutra is like a small spark. When a small spark is set to a large expanse of grass, not only the grass but also the big trees and large stones will all be consumed. Such is the power of the fire of wisdom in the single character myo.

[ The Drum at the Gate of Thunder, WND Page 949 ]

 

[PassTheDoobie]

The Heritage of the Ultimate Law of Life / WND pg. 216

The Heritage of the Ultimate Law of Life / WND pg. 216

- Shoji Ichidaiji Kechimyaku Sho -

Written by Nichiren

I have just carefully read your letter. To reply, the ultimate Law of life and death as transmitted from the Buddha to all living beings is Myoho-renge-kyo. The five characters of Myoho-renge-kyo were transferred from Shakyamuni and Many Treasures, the two Buddhas inside the treasure tower, to Bodhisattva Superior Practices, carrying on a heritage unbroken since the infinite past. Myo represents death, and ho, life. Living beings that pass through the two phases of life and death are the entities of the Ten Worlds, or the entities of Myoho-renge-kyo.

T'ien-t'ai says that one should understand that living beings and their environments, and the causes and effects at work within them, are all the (1) Law of renge (the lotus). Here "living beings and their environments" means the phenomena of life and death. Thus, it is clear that, where life and death exist, cause and effect, or the Law of the lotus, is at work.

The Great Teacher Dengyo states, "The two phases of life and death are the wonderful workings of one mind. The two ways of existence and non-existence are the true functions of an (2) inherently enlightened mind." No phenomena - either heaven or earth, (3) yin or yang, the sun or the moon, the (4) five planets, or any of the worlds from hell to Buddhahood - are free from the two phases of life and death. Life and death are simply the two functions of Myoho-renge-kyo. In his Great Concentration and Insight, T'ien-t'ai says, "Arising is the arising of the essential nature of the Law, and extinction is the extinction of that nature." Shakyamuni and Many Treasures, the two Buddhas, are also the two phases of life and death.

Shakyamuni Buddha who attained enlightenment countless kalpas ago, the Lotus Sutra that leads all people to Buddhahood, and we ordinary human beings are in no way different or separate from one another. To chant Myoho-renge-kyo with this realization is to inherit the ultimate Law of life and death. This is a matter of the utmost importance for Nichiren's disciples and lay supporters, and this is what it means to embrace the Lotus Sutra.

For one who summons up one's faith and chants Nam-myoho-renge-kyo with the profound insight that now is the last moment of one's life, the sutra proclaims: "When the lives of these persons come to an end, they will be received into the hands of a thousand Buddhas, who will free them from all fear and keep them from (5) falling into the evil paths of existence." How can we possibly hold back our tears at the inexpressible joy of knowing that not just one or two, not just one hundred or two hundred, but as many as a thousand Buddhas will come to greet us with open arms!

Concerning one who disbelieves the Lotus Sutra, because the sutra states, "When his life comes to an end he will (6) enter the Avichi hell," the wardens of hell will surely come for one and take one away by the hands. How pitiful! (7)The ten kings of the world of the dead will then pass judgment, and the heavenly messengers (8) who have been with one since birth will berate one for one's evil deeds.

Think of those thousand Buddhas extending their hands to all of Nichiren's disciples and lay supporters who chant Nam-myoho-renge-kyo as melons or moonflowers extending their slender vines. My followers are now able to accept and uphold the Lotus Sutra because of the strong ties they formed with it in their past existences. They are certain to obtain the fruit of Buddhahood in the future. The heritage of the Lotus Sutra flows within the lives of those who never forsake it in any lifetime whatsoever - whether in the past, the present, or the future. But those who disbelieve and slander the Lotus Sutra will immediately "destroy all the seeds for becoming a (9) Buddha in this world." Because they cut themselves off from the potential to attain enlightenment, they do not share the heritage of the ultimate Law of life and death.

All disciples and lay supporters of Nichiren should chant Nam-myoho-renge-kyo with the spirit of many in body but one in mind, transcending all (10) differences among themselves to become as inseparable as fish and the water in which they swim. This spiritual bond is the basis for the universal trans-mission of the ultimate Law of life and death. Herein lies the true goal of Nichiren's propagation. When you are so united, even the great desire for widespread propagation can be fulfilled. But if any of Nichiren's disciples disrupt the unity of many in body but one in mind, they would be like warriors who destroy their own castle from within.

Nichiren has been trying to awaken all the people of Japan to faith in the Lotus Sutra so that they too can share the heritage and attain Buddhahood. But instead they have persecuted me in various ways and finally had me banished to this island. You have followed Nichiren, however, and met with suffering as a result. It pains me deeply to think of your anguish. Gold can be neither burned by fire nor corroded or swept away by water, but iron is vulnerable to both. A worthy person is like gold, a fool like iron. You are like pure gold because you embrace the "gold" of the Lotus Sutra. The sutra states, "Just as among all the mountains, Mount Sumeru is foremost, so (11) this Lotus Sutra is likewise." It also states, "The good fortune you gain thereby . . . cannot be burned by fire or (12) washed away by water."

It must be ties of karma from the distant past that have destined you to become my disciple at a time like this. Shakyamuni and Many Treasures certainly realized this truth. The sutra's statement, "Those persons who had heard the Law dwelled here and there in various Buddha lands, constantly re-born (13) in company with their teachers," cannot be false in any way.

How admirable that you have asked about the transmission of the ultimate Law of life and death! I have never heard of anyone who has asked such a question. I have answered in complete detail in this letter, so please take it deeply to heart. The important point is to carry out your practice confident that Nam-myoho-renge-kyo alone is the heritage that was transferred from Shakyamuni and Many Treasures to Bodhisattva Superior Practices.

The function of fire is to burn and give light. The function of water is to wash away filth. The winds blow away dust and breathe life into plants, animals, and human beings. The earth produces the grasses and trees, and heaven provides nourishing moisture. The five characters of Myoho-renge-kyo are also like that. They are the cluster of blessings brought by the Bodhisattvas of the Earth, disciples of the Buddha in his true identity. The Lotus Sutra says that Bodhisattva Superior Practices will appear now, in the Latter Day of the Law, to propagate this teaching, but has this happened? Whether or not Bodhisattva Superior Practices has appeared in this world, Nichiren has already made a start in propagating this teaching.

Be resolved to summon forth the great power of faith, and chant Nam-myoho-renge-kyo with the prayer that your faith will be steadfast and correct at the moment of death. Never seek any other way to inherit the ultimate Law of life and death, and manifest it in your life. Only then will you realize that earthly desires are enlightenment, and that the sufferings of birth and death are nirvana. Even embracing the Lotus Sutra would be useless without the heritage of faith.

I will go into particulars again on another occasion.

With my deep respect,

Nichiren,

the shramana of Japan

The eleventh day of the second month in the ninth year of Bun'ei (1272), cyclical sign mizunoe-saru

Reply to the Honorable Sairen-bo

Background:

This letter, dated the eleventh day of the second month in 1272, was sent by Nichiren Daishonin to Sairen-bo Nichijo, a former Tendai priest who, for reasons that are unclear, was also living in exile on Sado Island. Details about Sairen-bo are scarce, but it is known that he was originally from Kyoto, and that he had studied at Mount Hiei, the seat of the Tendai school, before his exile. He was also present at the Tsukahara Debate, held in front of Sammai-do, the Daishonin's dwelling at Tsukahara, on the sixteenth and seventeenth days of the first month in 1272. In this debate the Daishonin was the clear victor over Pure Land, True Word, and other priests from Sado and from various provinces of northern Japan. A number of people converted to his teachings at this time, among them Sairen-bo.

Sairen-bo was a highly educated priest to whom the Daishonin sent several important essays, including The True Aspect of All Phenomena and The Heritage of the Ultimate Law of Life. He had a number of unresolved questions about Buddhist theory, and he addressed them one by one to the Daishonin, who in turn answered these questions in written form. The Daishonin praised him, saying, "How admirable that you have asked about the transmission of the ultimate Law of life and death!" In his reply the Daishonin offers a look into the wonder of the Buddha's own enlightenment, as well as the practical means whereby ordinary people may attain the same end.

In the first paragraph, the Daishonin states that Nam-myoho-renge-kyo is the heritage of the ultimate Law of life, and that the transmission of this Law is made from the Buddha to all living beings. Then he refers to the question of how we can inherit the ultimate Law of life and manifest it within ourselves.

This Law flows in the depths of the lives of those who believe in the teachings of the Lotus Sutra, practice in exact accord with them, and chant the daimoku. The Daishonin declares that there is no distinction whatsoever between Shakyamuni Buddha, the Lotus Sutra, and us, ordinary people.

Viewed from the standpoint of the Daishonin's Buddhism, this can be taken as a declaration that there is absolutely no difference or separation between Nichiren Daishonin as the Buddha of the Latter Day, the Law of Nam-myoho-renge-kyo - or the Gohonzon which embodies that Law - and ourselves, who chant Nam-myoho-renge-kyo.

In terms of time, the heritage - the mystic relationship between the Law and the lives of the people - courses eternally through past, present, andfuture, unbroken in any lifetime. In terms of space, the Daishonin proclaims that the heritage of the ultimate Law flows within the lives of his disciples and lay supporters who work in perfect unity for the realization of a peaceful world and happiness for all humanity.

Having stated that the ultimate Law is within the lives of human beings, Nichiren Daishonin further explains how to inherit the Law. He emphasizes the importance of the attitude, "now is the last moment . . . , " in order to manifest innate Buddhahood, a state that transcends both life and death.

In discussing the thousand Buddhas and the ten kings of hell, he reveals the continuity of cause and effect spanning past, present, and future. Whatever state of life predominates while one is alive will continue in the next life. Whether one can succeed to the heritage of the Law depends entirely on one's faith. This is why he strictly warns in his conclusion, "Even embracing the Lotus Sutra would be useless without the heritage of faith."

Notes:

1. The Profound Meaning of the Lotus Sutra.
2. The Essential Doctrines transmitted with-in the Tendai Lotus School.
3. Yin and yang are two universal principles of ancient Chinese philosophy. Yin is the negative, dark, and feminine principle; yang is the positive, bright, and masculine principle. Their interaction was thought to determine the destiny of all things.
4. Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. In the thirteenth century the more distant planets were as yet unknown, and Earth was not known to be among the planets.
5. Lotus Sutra, chap. 28.
6. Ibid., chap. 3.
7. Symbolic figures from popular religious tradition. One Chinese concept viewed hell as a demonic court of law where the dead were tried for their evil deeds.
8. Gods said to dwell on one's shoulders from the time of birth and to record one's every act. They represent the law of cause and effect at work in one's life.
9. Lotus Sutra, chap. 3.
10. The phrase "transcending all differences among themselves" could be rendered literally as "without any thought of self or other, this or that." This is not a denial of individuality, but rather urges the bridging of the gaps between people that arise from self-centeredness.
11. Lotus Sutra, chap. 23.
12. Ibid.
13. Ibid., chap. 7.

 

[Babbabud]

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

THE SAME MIND AS NICHIREN
Wednesday, December 13, 2006

Selection Source: Securing True Happiness Through Faith, Nakano
Culture Center, Tokyo, January 20, 1983, Buddhism in Action, Vol. 2,
pp. 38-9

When we pray to the Gohonzon and perform gongyo, we are enveloped in a fresh breeze from the palace of the ninth consciousness, the unchanging reality that reigns over all life's functions. It is as though we are seeing a beautiful moon in our own hearts. Nothing can compare to this perpetually fresh sense of fulfillment in the depths of one's life, as you know through your own experience.

Today there are many people who say they would be happy if only they had money. Certainly from one perspective this is understandable, but there are many who quarrel and even lose their lives for the sake of money. In the final analysis, the value of money is determined not
solely by the amount one possesses, but also by his state of life, which determines how he makes use of money. I believe that at the present time we are losing sight of this. In this sense, we must understand that happiness or unhappiness in the true sense is ultimately determined by one's state of life.

It is for the sake of establishing true happiness that we carry out our faith. Our daily life belongs to what Buddhism describes as the realm of the nine worlds from Hell through Bodhisattva. It is inevitable that in society, the realm of the nine worlds, we will meet with various troubles and sufferings. However, by virtue of the Mystic Law, our strong faith can transform the three paths of earthly
desires, karma and suffering into the three virtues of the property of the Law, wisdom and freedom. Therefore, by chanting daimoku to the Gohonzon each day and basing one's daily life upon the Mystic Law, without even realizing it, one is expanding his state of life and is establishing true happiness.

In maintaining faith, we must be careful to avoid such attitudes as haughtiness, pretension or conceit. True faith is to pray single-mindedly to the Gohonzon, to continue the practice of gongyo and daimoku and forge ahead untiringly. If one yields to his own haughtiness, pretension or arrogance and becomes inclined to consider the Gohonzon lightly or scorn his fellow members, he will obstruct his own benefit.

One should pray earnestly to the Gohonzon about his desires with total honesty and straightforwardness . Beyond that, since we are human beings, I do not deny the role of pride or appearances in secular affairs, but honest faith in the Gohonzon should be the basis
of one's existence. Nothing is more delicate than the human mind. However, if one can only maintain determined faith toward the Gohonzon and carry through with his practice, that in itself will become the means to break through any difficulty.

 

[Babbabud]

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Had our largest turn out for a meeting yet last nite Must have been over 20 of us. Chanting at a different residence with nice vaulted ceilings. Such a beautiful sound last nite. Such happy alive people. We are so fortunate!!!
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo!!

 

[PassTheDoobie]

"During gongyo, we recite portions of the Lotus Sutra. The sutra unfolds with the assembly shifting from Eagle Peak to the Ceremony in the Air and then back to Eagle Peak. In other words, it moves from the real world to the realm of enlightenment and back to the real world once more. Our morning and evening gongyo enable us to re-enact this grand drama of the Lotus Sutra in our own lives and live each day with energy and vitality. We can bring forth the power of our innate Buddhahood to confidently challenge our hardships and obstacles in our day-to-day lives and triumph over them. Our lives come to brim with this immense power. This is what it means to attain Buddhahood in our present form.

"This lofty state of Buddhahood shines with the infinite brilliance of unshakable faith that has been forged through vanquishing all kinds of obstacles and devilish functions. It is a state of glorious and unending victory--the victory of having transcended and triumphed over the sufferings of illness, aging, and death. And this towering state of being endures eternally even after we have passed away. Our lives merge with the universe and, in a vast and boundless state, continue on with freedom, joy, and delight. It is a state in which both life and death are joyful. Being able to attain such a state of life is the purpose of our faith and practice."

SGI Newsletter No. 7033, ON “EAGLE PEAK”––PART 2 [OF 2], A Vast and Boundless State of Life Encompassing the Entire Universe, translated Nov. 24th, 2006

 

[PassTheDoobie]

"Rather than offering up ten thousand prayers for remedy, it would be better simply to outlaw this one evil."

(On Establishing the Correct Teaching for the Peace of the Land - The Writings of Nichiren Daishonin, page 15) Selection source: "Kyo no Hosshin", Seikyo Shimbun, December 13th, 2006

 

[Bonzo]

WOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO!!!
NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO!!!
NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO!!!

Damn! T and Babba puttin up some killer stuff!!!! Read and learn! I know i am!!!

NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO!!!
NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO!!!
NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO!!!

THAT has become the root of my happiness, as most of you know in the beginning of my practice i dug deep and chanted for nothing but deeper faith and to overcome phycological obstacles if you will, like low self esteem , no confidence, and the big one for me, SELF DOUBT!!!!

I have made great strides in all these areas and i attribute alot of that to chanting for FAITH and COURAGE! It just seems to me now cause i didnt plan it that way that chanting for those things early on gave me a foundation of trust in the Gohonzon, it will never do me wrong. As long as i stay honest and true to the goal of Kosen Rufu first and foremost. Its not easy, again i was let down by my boss today as he backed out of our scheduled meeting. I dont think he knows what he is missing or beleive it or not he knows exactly what he is missing and is scared to face it, as facing the Gohonzon is in turn facing ourselves and thats easier said than done for some. You now i knew that when i got started doing this that it would be my life destiny and that scared me, but i guess i was ready for me to come face to face with me.

Does this make any damn sense? Startin' to feel like im ramblin' off course again, oh well what i say i say from my heart.

Im puttin i BIG SHOUT OUT to all those that have not been here recently, you think you have nothing to say of value to this thread, HORSESHIT i say!!! All of us have things on our mind, desires, heartaches, obstacles to overcome, THIS IS THE PLACE TO TALK ABOUT THEM!!!! Let it all hang out man. I would love it if some of you who are reading this thread but not posting would go to one of my posts and hit the filter icon. See who i was and who i am now, its fun! And funny! But the point is i thought i had nothing that anyone would want to hear either. Then i gradually just started to let it all out and i have grown so much from all the input from the most awesome people that are involved in this thread, changed my life i tell ya!!!!

But i am still growing and allways will be, i still have self doubt but nothing near what i used to put myself through, i still have bouts with fear, im not perfect but thats why i am here.

I hope i dont sound like some kinda pep rally cheerleader, all im sayin is that you (any of you that have visited this thread did so cause you were seeking something) posted here for a reason, what that reason may be is not for me to say, i can only speak for myself.

For me it was a no-brainer, i knew that this would change my life and it has, i could feel it deep in the core of my being the first time i talked to T.

Is my life all peachhes and fuckin' cream now? NO!! I still have to deal with everything that a person has to deal with on a daily basis and that is allways changing.

The great thing is that through chanting Nam myoho renge kyo, i am so much more prepared if you will for those changes and bumps in the road that are inevitable in all our lives.

NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO!!!
NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO!!!
NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO!!!

Boy did i go off on a tangent eh? HHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fun fun fun!!!!!!

Babba! Sounds like you had an AWESOME meeting bro!! 20 people?!!!!!! THATS KILLER DUDE, i bet it was electric in there!!! One of these days Babba im comin' up and going to your meeting with you if ya'll dont mind me sittin' in. Sounds to good to be true!

Well im at a loss for words on that note.

Im gonna print out the last few posts from T and Babba and enjoy them.

peace and all my deepest respect and love

bonz






>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nam myoho renge kyo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[PassTheDoobie]

WOW! A Great Buddha has spoken! Nam-myoho-renge-kyo!

WOW! A Great Buddha has spoken! Nam-myoho-renge-kyo!

WOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO!!!
NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO!!!
NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO!!!

THAT has become the root of my happiness, as most of you know in the beginning of my practice i dug deep and chanted for nothing but deeper faith and to overcome phycological obstacles if you will, like low self esteem , no confidence, and the big one for me, SELF DOUBT!!!!

I have made great strides in all these areas and i attribute alot of that to chanting for FAITH and COURAGE! It just seems to me now cause i didnt plan it that way that chanting for those things early on gave me a foundation of trust in the Gohonzon, it will never do me wrong. As long as i stay honest and true to the goal of Kosen Rufu first and foremost. Its not easy, again i was let down by my boss today as he backed out of our scheduled meeting. I dont think he knows what he is missing or beleive it or not he knows exactly what he is missing and is scared to face it, as facing the Gohonzon is in turn facing ourselves and thats easier said than done for some. You now i knew that when i got started doing this that it would be my life destiny and that scared me, but i guess i was ready for me to come face to face with me.

peace and all my deepest respect and love

bonz

I am always so impressed with what your heart says! And so grateful!

Thank you Bonzo Thus Come One! You give of yourself freely!

Deepest respect,

Thomas

 

[PassTheDoobie]

"This person as he advances through this world" means that the first five hundred years of the Latter Day of the Law will witness the advent of Bodhisattva Superior Practices, who will illuminate the darkness of ignorance and earthly desires with the light of the five characters of Nam-myoho-renge-kyo. In accordance with this passage, Nichiren, as this bodhisattva's envoy, has urged the people of Japan to accept and uphold the Lotus Sutra. His unremitting efforts never slacken, even here on this mountain.

[ Letter to Jakunichi-bo, WND Page 993 ]

 

[fallenangel]

i feel love

i feel love

helloooooooo everyone . i have so much to say ,but to be honest guys , i dont know how to begain or what to say ,,, i just did something that was completely not me and i dont know how i feel at the moment ,, i do feel a relise , kind of like a weight has been lifted off of me .. well 15 minutes have passed since i started to wright this . i have decided just to spill it , yes i just saw a therapist . 1st time . things have been building up for a long , long time . i guess i just need to stop being so tough and locked up and release some of this trapped up garbage . so the two of us were talking and the subject of religion comes up . i tell him what i was raised with ,, but i now have started chanting and looking into buddaisim .. he responded very positive ..it kind of suprised me for some reason . if i mention this to most others i get a " this guy just wants to be different " kind of look , or " i wonder how long this will last " sneer. i can say i have never had anyone say anything negative to my face at least. wow , fuck .. i dont now why the hell i just wrote all that shit . i dont know . i have a lot of crappy , crap , crap going on ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT , i do have so much good in my life also . my wife . i love her with all of my heart . so much here at home , and it seems to me that i have some here , with my freinds . everyone who pours their positive vibes out for all to feed . much love to all of you .

 

[Bonzo]

Thats because we love you fallen!!!


Good to see you bro, its unreal how much you remind me of me "...well 15 minutes have passed since i started writing this"

WOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO MAN !!!! That is classic me bro! I have gotten alot better at just lettin it flow but i still do that exact same thing. Like ill start typin' a post and by the time i actually get it posted theres allready 3 people that have posted!!! HHHAAAAAA!!!! Gotta laugh bro!!!! Has that ever happened to you? Hey man i have allways wanted to see a therapist but just never did for different reasons, funny i dont feel the need much anymore, seems im surrounded by therapists chanting Nam myoho renge kyo!!!. I hope you feel better bro. How was it ? did you get to lie down on a couch, ive allways wanted to know that.

I think its awesome that when you mentioned your getting into Buddhism that he was positive, thats gotta make ya feel good. Very cool. Man where im from everyone is into something , some form of self help or what not i usually get just the "yeah ok whatever " kinda look/reaction.

Just a thought but maybe you just wrote all that to get rid of some of that garbage? I dunno just a thought. Ill take some of your garbage, im kind of a packrat anyway!!! HEY dont you love goin through peoples garages and /or store rooms (with thier consent of course) man to me thats about as much fun as i can ask for, i actually get a little crazy, especially if thiers someone with me, im allways lookin to see what they find and it allways seems better than what i find even though its usually all just a bunch of junk anyway, yeah im a pack rat dude, no doubt about it.

Glad you have so much good in your life bro, cause the crap is just that ......CRAP!!!

So good to se ya man, dont be a stranger!!!!

peace and love and respect homie

bonz






>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nam myoho renge kyo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[PassTheDoobie]

Hey fallen! For the record, I proudly acknowledge to everyone who knows me, my time(s) in therapy. They were all answers to daily life prayers seeking ways to make things in my life better, as I chanted for them to be. When we get sick, we don't recommend just chanting about it, do we? No, we chant and we seek appropriate help, seeing our chanting as a vehicle that guides and protects us in the course of taking care of ourselves. That's what Buddhism is--taking care of yourself.

It is the ultimate 'take-care-of-yourself' program you can experience. Our mental health and physical health are connected. This is now a proven fact. If mental health is approached from the same perspective as that of physical health, how could there EVER be a stigma about seeking care from a mental health professional?

Seeing a therapist is how I quit drinking. I chanted a long time for the circumstance to become available and clear to me that would allow me to kick that monkey off my back. I am proud to say I am an alcoholic that stopped drinking in 1988. Therapy was a basic building block of my 'life-development'. It showed me how many other fucked up people there are. I was not alone.

We are all just trying to get along and survive, with a desire to be happy. Nam-myoho-renge-kyo put me in touch with some truly gifted people that were there for me when I needed them, and gone when that need had been fulfilled. I'm sure it will be the same for you!

Good luck and keep chanting!