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Ceramic Metal Halide (CMH)

floppy

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im sold on the "one bulb for veg & bloom"

can i get hold of these in the uk?

just to clarify, what ballast can i use? hps or mh ballast, could i use a dual hps/mh ballast?

thinking of 150W cmh
 

Military

Member
Thanks Microwido because I have also bought HTGsupply's DIY ballast kit..

this one here.. the 400watter..

http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=45693

Not gona lie though ill be pretty POed and disappointed if I try and fire up my CMH bulb and It doesnt lite... Maybe its possible to buy a little stronger Igniter possibly?


Azeotrope- what you think about that ballast i got there? ... Any comments? :p all mighty one of the CMH bulbs :p
 

MPL

Member
I'll have some pics of my ladies up soon, maybe tonight. They're recovering from an overwater/pH issue from before I got them, but they're recovering well I think. The new growth at the top is really, really tight and I think it's probably due to the CMH.
 

vindiesel

Active member
Veteran
so should a CMH be used from seedlings through flowering or should seedlings first go under CFL...?
i'm glad i found this thread on CMH today, evidently they do kick HPS ass :spank:
 

vindiesel

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i was thinking maybe too much for seedlings...also i have what bog said in back of my head. he believes in a 3:1 ratio in lighting between veg and flowering, so like 80W for veg and 250 for flowering. his way is not the only way though, but as everyone knows, he is the master...at least IMO.
 
G

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Is the sun too much for any part of the cycle. I have run 1:1ratio many times before and sometimes go from the veg chamber to the flower as a fresh re-fill of the flower chamber. I start off with a 3day veg and the cmh gets them ripping!!!! They grow like crazy!
 

simba

Sleeping Dragon
floppy u adv tech ships worldwide..

Vin,
ya your ok with cmh from seedling to Harvest..

as far as HTG ballast not Firing the CMH (dont take out of context or read into)
i dont think there bad ballasts as a whole..
i basically think u got a weaker ignitor and a Stronger Starting CMH, Neither bad..but just not greatest combo.. or maybe your Wire nuts are a lil loose..
Electricity is a Btch.. so inconstant..

ya as far as eballast there are 3 companies that make them and they are good.. Just way over priced.. IE a GE CMH ballast goes for 300-350 thats 7 times more expensive than hps ballast.. IE you could have 7 400 HPS Mag ballasts for the price of one Electronic..
now with that said if you are running that GE multi Watt CMH ballast. you can start with 150 watt and move up to 400 as the plant matures.. However that is for the Super energy conscious grower.. with $$ to throw around..


Vin u wont look back..
 

vindiesel

Active member
Veteran
thanks. the ballast i'm looking at isn't HTG's but is sold by them an Agrostar magnetic. i did alittle research on hre and only found 1 complaint. several positives. let me know what u guys think about that ballast....
....and i don't think i will look back...the charts comparing the HPS to CMH really did it 4 me....
 

Sleepy

Active member
Veteran
chimei said:
I just want to confirm a few things....

I have had a 400 watt Switchable ballast for years now. My 400 CMH Philips works great when I put the ballast on HPS and run the lamp, as long as you have a 400 Watt HPS ballast (or switchable one set to HPS) you can run one of these bulbs right? There are no other specifics the ballast needs to support? It's been running fine for awhile now, just want to make there is nothing I missed and I have a fire hazard.


Thanks!!


sorry, i didn't realize the thread was so long...i have a switchable ballast, also...

not to sound stupid...am i replacing the ballas, the bulb, or both??

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wow..
 
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simba

Sleeping Dragon
vin the ballast will do...

Sleepy,, only replacing bulb.. and leaving the ballast on the HPS side..
 

Pinball Wizard

The wand chooses the wizard
Veteran
vindiesel said:
i was thinking maybe too much for seedlings...also i have what bog said in back of my head. he believes in a 3:1 ratio in lighting between veg and flowering, so like 80W for veg and 250 for flowering. his way is not the only way though, but as everyone knows, he is the master...at least IMO.
I found that it helps to offset the seedling's pots a little bit...not straight down under the CMH bulb...until they get use to strong UV light. This probably varies with different reflectors.
 
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MPL

Member
My 400w HPS ballast from HTG works like a charm. I extended the cord going to the lamp by 4' and it still fires the lamp without a problem.

The HTG ballast is also very quiet, and doesn't get particularly hot. I'm very happy with it so far.
 

vindiesel

Active member
Veteran
nice. it's either the 250 agrostar or HTG's own 250 ballast 4 me. probably agrostar. even HTG says it is better than their own. prob both about same....

sleepy i see u are impressed with that chart as i was....it's like big real nice tits against no tits w/ fuzzy nipples....
 

Military

Member
NICE .. Ordered me CMH what.. 2 days ago... GUESS WHAT I GOT MINE TODAY!!!!!!!!

YIPPY!!! Cant use it till about .. what.. middle/end of March though :( Sad days lol

O well.. Ima def going to grow out my current CAB with the CFLs in it and check out my mass yield.. Hoping for 150grams :p Well see though, Looks possible so far


Cant wait to get the CMH grow going to see what the HUGE different it is from the CFLs :p
 

FreezerBoy

Was blind but now IC Puckbunny in Training
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You can use the CMH (or HPS) from germ to finish. Sprouting under the full strength of the sun is a seeds function. You'll want to increase distance from canopy at the beginning to keep from baking them. Say 12-18 inches rather than 4-8.
 

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