Hi, Alien Dawg.
Reducing the total specimen to 4 might be an option. 2 in each pool. With an estimated longer vegetation period, 8 specimen per pool might quickly grow into (over grow) each other, even with thinning. Perhaps 24/7, or 20/4 light regime, all luminaires on. Ideally, we would experiment with only 1 specimen per pool in that sized area, with the total light that you alluded to, but 4 might work well.
With the lights positioned something like
o..X..X..o
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where o = luminaire, X = pool.
Options might include staggering the lights in a `V` type shape, so they would not shine into each other; raising at least one of the lights to as high as it can go in the tent, so the specimen were encouraged to grow `up` during vegetation; angling the lights at approximately 15 degrees to form a more asymertical illumination pattern; positioning the specimen similar to this
z....z....
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inside of the pools, with an extended vegetation period, the foliage might grow to fill the entire area; at least 12 stakes per specimen, in two concentric circles around the specimen. The branches which might grow into the areas where current vessels are positioned would be able to be tied to the pre-positioned stakes; forming the stake (support) array prior to specimen filling the area might be advantageuous. For example, once a given branch reached a stake at the outer circle of stakes, the new shoots and growth beneath the tie-point could be thinned or removed, permitting the terminal flowers to grow up into the light, without lower growth below.
Ideally, we would probably experiment with only 2 specimen in that entire area. 1 specimen in each pool. Yet, 2 per pool might provide you with the experiences and results you are seeking, without having to manage the long term care of single large trees, which if something were to be amiss, might be disadvantageous for the entire season.
The configuration appears similar to your existing system configuration. While it may be `challenging`, or a new experience, reducing to total number of specimen in that amount of space, at least in the pursuit of larger plants of trees, might be advantageous. The current configuration might tend to produce plants that would quickly grow into each other, without any further space to grow into.
Our initial goal might be to extend the vegetative cycle until the point where the gardener could stand at the entry to the tent and not be able to see to walls behind the specimen due to foliage mass. Perhaps then we might prune, thin, and initiate flowering. The culmunitive goal might be to not be able to see any wall behind the specimen at the conclusion of the season, due to the area being entirely filled, or `maxed out` with its capacity of foliage, fruit or flowers.
Good start. The above are merely considerations that we noted while observing your tentative new system. By no definitive or the only way to proceed. We hope that this post might be helpful.
Best,
/SRGB/
Born Loser:
I was assuming he meant one plant per pool... He said 'ignore pots and bamboo'
You could train 1 to open the center and drop a light or 2 inline with the main stalk...
Height is always optional with extensive training /pruning.. To an extent
Hi, Born Loser.
Thanks for the reminder about `ignoring` the vessels inside of the pool. The existing vessels and configuration does help to determine scale.
We found height to be advantageous. Of course, it would be width if the training were to proceed laterally. Whether `height` or `width`, we would encourage elongation of branches to promote more nodes and shoots. Whether or not those shoots were trained to go `up`, or `sideways`, or spun into various shapes when tied to supports would be best determined by the gardener at that stage.
During experiments, we preferred angles. A 1 foot cube has 12 inch sides. Yet, if one were to draw a line from a lower corner to an upper corner, that line would be approximately 17 inches.
One could position a luminaire directly above a specimen and form a `cone` around it with plant or tree limbs.
We preferred to position luminaires offset, and asymertical, to produce light where there might not be any in a purely symmertical configuration. Either might work.
We preferred to tilt luminaires at approximately 15 degrees so that light would both shine down onto the specimen at an angle (similar to the sun), and shine only slighlty upwards, encouraging growth `up`. Even if the luminare was positioned closer to the specimen, there would still be some illumination (photons) traveling towards the top of the overall garden.
If the luminare was `over` a specimen, we would still offset it from being exactly `centered` over the `bowled` specimen, again, to create asymertrical photon patterns, similar to those found in nature, where the sun shines upon (or, irradiates; `strikes`) the earth at angles. Further, those angles change in nature as seasons change, or as the earth `wobbles` on its axis.
[EDIT: FOOTNOTE]
In our previous post, we mentioned angling a vertical luminaire at approximately 15 degree. To clarify, we 15 degrees from the starting position of 90 degrees. So, the luminare might have a true angle of either 75 degrees or 105 degrees. As briefly noted above, at least two of the goals of such a positioning would be 1) mimic sunlight; and 2) creating an array light waves travelling both downward and upward, from a primarily vertical position.
Just some options that we found to be advantageous. By no means the only routes to proceed.
We hope that this post might be helpful.
Best,
/SRGB/
So well laid out...
Thanks to you guys I see difficulties that I had not understood with the idea of a large "Tree" grow in a Tent.
2 plant per seems to be a great option for a pool when trying for something on a large scale.
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Sounds like a great technique IMO.12 stakes per specimen, in two concentric circles around the specimen
Thinking in terms of angles and the work you have done as well as
the way you laid it out is GOLDEN to say the least...
I can visualize the grow from start though end a little better/realistically...
You have given me quite a bit to chew on and I love it...
Thanks you once again as this is some great information for
what is possible in the space I have.