Cannabis Rosin(solventless hashoil)

[blastfrompast]

Sunfire:

Yup the bubble was that first crappy bag out of 3 bag set, 6th and 7th wash, but I only wash for 2-3 minutes per time....Drill / Big plastic spoon tek...lol

Buddy just smoked some, big chunk of ash when he was done, he was high as shit.. just a tiny bit of bubbling. when he first hit it with the lighter..... So that is the quality...

I also didn't change my water at all, just kept adding ice as required.

Last time I ran the material, it only yielded a few g's in total, not worth pulling bags at that point.

As to moisture content, If I pressed it without heat, water would squeeze out

I'm super curious if it will AUTO-BUTTER due to moisture content.

I'm picking up a hash washing machine tomorrow, so If it is as efficient as I am with my drill (not very) I will have a lb or so of hash to play with in the next few days (after I take out the fullmelt).. Best part 90% white widow which presses the best so far

I will also be pressing much older material over the next week.....So everything from 4weeks old, to 4yrs old...

I might even show y'all the extraction/collection project that my wife is starting to HATE..LOL....It was her smart ass remark that gave me the idea...you would think she would be happy...blwahahhha

 

[Sunfire]

Even if you have a little bubble it is decent grade in my opinion.

Did you use different sized filters? Maybe the water hash is leaching micro solids if the filter micron is too high? Idk?

Pressing with heat will not squeeze out all the moisture, and you don't want it to either or your product will be watery. I've experimented with lots of water, where the pre press didn't bleed out water, but the heated press did. I've also intentionally added lots of moisture to the point where a big poof of steam came out when I released the pressure but no moisture ran into the product. I examine all my spent material. At the same temps, material that is more moist is darker after pressing. I think that's why people get better yields with more moisture at the same temp, but they could be Sacraficing quality and decarb but I can't yet say for sure.

I'm almost positive moisture can effect auto budder and nucleation. I've done some experiments but nothing too conclusive to share yet.

OMG I LOVE THE BUBBLE MAGIC!!! it makes great quality. not as good as when I did it by hand, in one gallon glass jars, never stirring but only rolling the jars across the ground and gently shaking them. But for a 20 gallon set up, for the price, they make great quality for how easy it is. I've always had a dream of putting one inside a freezer and doing sub zero washes. Be sure to get an automatic oil seperator and salvage those terps from the hash water (lmao I actually don't know anyone personally that's done this but it's been talked about a lot).

Yeah what's this wife technique? What are you using, a hair iron?

 

[blastfrompast]

Sunfire:

LOL, nah her idea had nothing to do with hair straighteners....or pressing for that matter even.

Her idea was for the collection... The aim is to be able to not use any parchment paper.

Seem's to be the lynch pin we are all trying to solve.

We are only doing approx 5g presses at a time(sift,hash, only so far)...

T Minus 60 minutes till I get my washing machine

 

[Sunfire]

Lol I've achieves paperless status, it's actually not that easy. Maybe you got a better way. Smaller presses for personal idk if it's really that hard to collect off parchment. When you have more than 10 grams to collect though, it sure is nice not to deal with parchment and a tool

 

[blastfrompast]

Sunfire:

The goal for me is to be able to press 10g at a time with a cycle time of 60-90 seconds....Approx 1lb of Rosin an hour.

Retailing for under $400 is my partners goal, our cost so far is under $100

 

[Sunfire]

Wait wait are you talking for the rosin itself or for your press design? I'll buy 400$ pounds of rosin all day lmfao!!!

Share some details, how much tonage and what size filter bundles? I could see a 2 ton arbor press and some plates costing that little. The cost of my design is atleast 300 for the smaller ones, up to 500 or more for larger ones.

Pressing time is just one issue. There's still the matter of tumbling the material and I have been microwave distilling the leaf post tumble to capture terpenes to re introduce later with some whipping and budder making. It's a lot of work really. Rosin is from my perspective not turning out to be so simple lol! Oh well, it's still a lot safer and more affordable then a cls. Total return rate though I fear is less then half what cls can do. I'm starting to feel more and more that rosin isn't the golden ticket. Maybe roji will dial down his solventless tech and share it with world one day. I just don't think any other solventless (I'm pretty sure they actually mean hydrocarbon solventless) extraction technique preserves the terpenes like rosin does.

 

[blastfrompast]

Sunfire:

Press/collection system... not for the Rosin...

 

[Sunfire]

I know I know, was just being trying to be hopeful hehehehe!

 

[comphashon]

Glad to be back HMK, and it was great to meet you today! Love the work, and thanks so much for the piece I've been wanting for sooooo many years!!! It's amazing!!

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Lol I've achieves paperless status, it's actually not that easy. Maybe you got a better way. Smaller presses for personal idk if it's really that hard to collect off parchment. When you have more than 10 grams to collect though, it sure is nice not to deal with parchment and a tool

wholesale parchment collection shouldnt be done with a tool i dont think. a frozen glass or marble sheet to press the sheets on and rip them off is probably more like the ticket. you could press and rip a lot of sheets in the same spot on a frozen block, then razor it off.

Glad to be back HMK, and it was great to meet you today! Love the work, and thanks so much for the piece I've been wanting for sooooo many years!!! It's amazing!!

thanks for dropping by, it was great to meet you too. thanks for the props on the piece, i hope it works well for you!

 

[heady blunts]

damn you guys it's been near impossible keeping up with one thread on lurk mode. now you gonna split the convo in two places! makin me work for this shit! lol.

ive got a little 1/2 ton arbor press with a titanium plate hair iron taken apart and fixed to the press. been getting great results with flowers. definitely looking at APE's press for inspiration for the next step.

many thanks to comphashon for sharing this back in the day. i was like "DO WHAT WITH MY BUBBLE FOR HOW MUCH RETURN?" clearly you were on to something big, man.

also sunfire, HMK, ganjapharma, roji, & ringo for takin the research so far in the other thread and sharing your findings.

 

[blastfrompast]

Well the hash washing machine was a success...

2 more oz to play with. Pre-pressed the majority of the water out (who cares right, we are heat pressing the shit anyways).

I also made an oz of fresh frozen bubble I will play around a bit with. Seems a shame to waste it tho, as it already just melts from the heat of gloved hands... Ah for the love of ROSIN eh.

 

[Sunfire]

Heady blunts, for the price, I think you got a great set up lol! Seriously. You may want to step up the pressure in the future maybe. I'll let yall know when I finally feel I can make a conclusion as far as pressure in relation to heat. I still have a lot of fabrication to do, I need more kief, and I've got a lot of shit going on outside the rosin world. I will some day test with 9 different pressure amounts. New design concepts are indicating I can test from 500 psi up to 6000 psi. It all seems relevant to the material though. Greener kief and flowers may need more pressure but but super melty sift does not, it seems to literally just melt.

BFP - yeah baby! I love the washing machines. You know you can actually put two wash bags in there at the same time and double your production, brim it with water if you do.

I'm telling you bro, you can indeed have too much moisture, I have experimented with that. Too much and it literally will drip out into your product. Too much with flowers seemed to make the product very dark and the left over material in the filter bundle was straight black. The moisture I think increases the internal pressure, not sure though but one day we gotta figure out optimal moisture content.

NO DON'T ROSIN THE FRESH FROZEN!!! Please don't do it lmfao! obviously do what you wish but I don't understand why people want to rosin their super melty stuff. I think that's all people on instagram want to do to look cool and have their collection of hash porn. I mean yeah that's cool, they got clear rosin. But what percentage of super high grade are you going to get off a bunch of trim? I think in reality most people will be pressing not so high grade kief. That's what I'm trying to focus on from a production point of view. I don't think anyone with multiple hundreds of pounds of trim is going to do two tumbling phases, then dry sift everything, then press only the super melty stuff.

The fresh frozen water hash I make will stay in the form, atleast the A grade. The B grade will get pressed.

Bit of a rant, can you tell how much instagram pics make me depressed...?

 

[Reeferman831]

 

[GET MO]

aright so I just took some of this....

pressed it into a ball right quick, heated up a pyrex, and got to rubbing it in. Ended up with a gooy mess. So then I took some parchment paper and put some inbetween two pieces and ironed it. Another gooy mess. I want some ROSIN!!! anyone with game please lace me... What am I wrong, and whats the latest greatest method?

 

[heady blunts]

haha the old pyrex and spoon rosin. old school!

sounds like maybe your iron was too hot GM. you can use a lamp dimmer (or fan speed controller) to turn it down past the lowest setting. i find with even half melt keif that i can press at way lower temps than flowers. 180* is plenty.

anyway since the soilgrown hair iron revelation most of the rosin convo happens on this thread:

New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

 

[Lyfespan]

anyone in socal orcali want to go in on getting presses made let me know i have several companies to research. looks like small units could be 100 bux and retail for 250-300, larger units are 300bux and could retail for 1-2K

 

[mack 10]

High all, well all this rosin looks like what i get when i over press pure hash, or pure enough...
I use an aluminum mould(mold?) lined with tough cellophane into wich i put my trichs. I heat it wrapped and sealed in wet paper and aluminum foil then i press in a jack press. The oil oozes out of the cracks around the aluminum casing. Now this oil is dark but very clear and is the tastyest hashyest oil ever !
Seems to be created by the steam going through the trichs, that are then pressed, forcing the oil through the cracks. I don`t do this on purpose, it only happens by accident when I heat the mould a little to long or too hot. The resulting hash is weaker and less tasty. I filled a quarter once bottle once and prized it until it was gone...
Experience and mistakes sometimes make great improvements !
Peace. Boom Shankar ! RR.

Prob one of first modern rosin presser, even if by accident,
I also read that some Afghani or Pakistani hash workers would beat a 20lb lump with sticks. ( to press the hash for sale)After a certain time they scrapped off a couple Oz of golden oils. This was prob the original rosin, from at least 100 years ago.

 

[Cmoon]

 

[sbeanonnamellow]

Big up OP this thread is legendary comphashon you legendary

Does anyone know the complete title to the book pictured in post #4 by the original poster?

A guide to.....?