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Cannabis Legalization #1 Question for Obama
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Legalization will start at the state level first. Once half the states legalize, then the federal government might come around.
You won't hear Obama even address legalization for the rest of his first term in office. Forget about this guy, he's not going to do anything for us on this issue.
You won't hear Obama even address legalization for the rest of his first term in office. Forget about this guy, he's not going to do anything for us on this issue.
YEAH LETS GET GEORGE BUSH BACK IN THERE DURPA DURR
Totah Sam
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I think the main problem is the fact that President Obama is the first "black" president. Not that ethnicity matters. I voted for him because I thought he was fucking OVERqualified for the job. He is a brilliant charismatic individual. It would destroy this administration if President Obama legalized Marijuana or even had it switched to a schedule two drug. All because of a damn stereotype that was created by the government itself. I don't think he realized during his campaign just exactly what he was up against. Now he knows. I think he's playing it smart and doing what he can, while he can. The political machine is going to eat him alive.
The only way legalization is going to happen is through the states. We have to win this state by state.
The only way legalization is going to happen is through the states. We have to win this state by state.
Pistil_Party09
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Hey man... intolerance is what got us into this problem in the first place (of marijuana illegalization)
the only thing that the NJ, VA, and MA elections show (VA in particular, since it is historically a red state) is that young people don't show up to off-season elections. Obama won on the youth vote, and the minority vote, with a super majority in both categories.
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/exit-polls.html
Cannabis is mainstream. It's use might not be encouraged like alcohol use is, but for most Americans it is a tolerable activity. It's the very loud minority who are the issue, as they are well-established institutions with backing from people who may or may not agree with their prohibitionist stances: churches, LEOs, parent groups, etc. Cannabis use is everywhere: music, TV, movies, every form of media has glorified cannabis use. Rarely do I see anyone in the media (not counting news.. they are the tool of oppression and fear) giving lip-service to the prohibitionist stance.
I know more people who use cannabis than don't. And those who don't are very tolerant of its use, either because they were users before and quit for their own reasons or because they see that it's not that harmful at all. Still, there are some out there who, for all the wrong reasons, thinks cannabis is dangerous and should remain illegal. They need to be educated.
The President's job is not to do what's popular, but what's right. Thankfully, cannabis legalization is both popular and right. That he continues to deny the very demographics who got him elected this request is disgusting to me. Maybe he'd prefer it if we were all arrested and given felonies for cannabis possession, so that we won't be able to vote for him next election? Don't bother, the way things are going, I'll stay home next time.
You've been around since 2006 but, I've only just seen your thoughts in this forum. I deleted the rest of your rant and would just like you to address how.....
(1) MJ Question
(2) MJ Question
(3) MJ Question
(4) Non MJ Question
Equals.... "NOT the number one question"
I'm a stoner so you'll have to take it really slow with me. Your comments in the Starbucks thread were well too esoteric and over my head. Please enlighten me.
Peace,
You've been around since 2006 but, I've only just seen your thoughts in this forum. I deleted the rest of your rant and would just like you to address how.....
(1) MJ Question
(2) MJ Question
(3) MJ Question
(4) Non MJ Question
Equals.... "NOT the number one question"
I'm a stoner so you'll have to take it really slow with me. Your comments in the Starbucks thread were well too esoteric and over my head. Please enlighten me.
Peace,
People voting on Youtube is not representative of the population of the USA.
I don't want to start an argument, but I live in a DC suburb in Virginia and, for the 2008 election, I'd say 4 out of 5 of my friends voted, and the vast majority of them voted for Obama. 2 of my close friends helped the campaign, and someone I know went on the "tour" or whatever with him.
I hate to say that I didn't vote, but I didn't, because my mother and I were going to go together, but we looked at how we'd vote, and she would have voted McCain, I would have Obama, and most of the other things we would have voted on were either slam dunks or we canceled each others' votes. We decided just to both not go and consider it neither positive nor negative
I do not plan on missing another election if at all possible (not just talking about presidential election either).
The voting trend in VA (particularly northern va, which is pretty populous) is definitely headed towards blue (despite our republican governor election... it was a pretty rough job to vote democrat on that), and a lot of us are voting.
The only way it's going to happen is if he gets in for a second term, it is political suicide otherwise. Just imagine the commercials from the Republicans about "Obama wants to legalize the dangerous drugs that are destroying our precious youth!" Yes, it is politics unfortunately. Make sure you go vote on any medical marijuana bills that end up on the ballot in your state in the meanwhile, we are gonna do this one more state at a time & then Federal changes are sure to follow.
TronCarter
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I think this is A LOT about race, and how the first administration under a black president would be viewed if they did something like legalize MJ. The funny thing is, if you think about it, the most UN-racist thing that he could do right here is to meet this issue head-on, because the color of the president addressing this issue shouldn't matter one bit.
FWIW, Obama won because of the EARLY vote, which enabled much more participation from the youth and minority vote. I'm actually shocked the Republicans haven't spent every waking moment since the '08 election trying to remove early voting from the playing field.
FWIW, Obama won because of the EARLY vote, which enabled much more participation from the youth and minority vote. I'm actually shocked the Republicans haven't spent every waking moment since the '08 election trying to remove early voting from the playing field.
TronCarter: Or maybe he won because all your votingsystems, is electronic, General Electrics, if I remember correctly... GE is bigtime moneylauder... And Obama.. He was at the right at the right time.
People got all romantic, ohh, first black president! Funny he comes right after the worst president ever... Everybody forgets about Bush with the new "Messias" coming promissing "change"... What kind of change.....
Forget your mj-legization, move to one of the "friendlier" states if you really want that dope. But then again, you can be arrested there too... So what good is all these bills, laws ect, if another trumfs the other? It's a fuckin farce!
People got all romantic, ohh, first black president! Funny he comes right after the worst president ever... Everybody forgets about Bush with the new "Messias" coming promissing "change"... What kind of change.....
Forget your mj-legization, move to one of the "friendlier" states if you really want that dope. But then again, you can be arrested there too... So what good is all these bills, laws ect, if another trumfs the other? It's a fuckin farce!
GodsCreation
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This is probably the quickest and easiest way to give voice to our leaders. I followed the links above and it took all of 2 minutes to send 5 letters which went directly to my Senators and Reps. Do it!
stuartambient
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To the person who earlier said they shoot drug addicts in Russia.
Have you considered the prison slave system here ? We have the LARGEST prison population out of all nations. A portion of those in it are not even full blown addicts, because we know that you can get thrown in to it for a bong. You might also open your eyes to the fact of one of the main reasons we are in Afghanistan.
Yet I do believe it's true he has more on his plate and must answer to many other pressing issues and people, like how to drive the final nail in, to sink the country into 3rd world status.
Have you considered the prison slave system here ? We have the LARGEST prison population out of all nations. A portion of those in it are not even full blown addicts, because we know that you can get thrown in to it for a bong. You might also open your eyes to the fact of one of the main reasons we are in Afghanistan.
Yet I do believe it's true he has more on his plate and must answer to many other pressing issues and people, like how to drive the final nail in, to sink the country into 3rd world status.
pray4pistils
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I'm talking about scientific polls conducted Nationally -the sort of research that academia, the media, and politicians takes seriously. A YouTube sample absolutely does not represent a true cross section of America. Therefore it is interesting but not statistically significant. People in power don't pay attention to YouTube surveys.
I'm sure that you're a smart guy, but my Starbucks objection was actually very simple. There were pages of people ranting and raving about how evil Starbucks was to sponsor an anti-MMJ activist group. Folks were calling for a boycott and I was upset about the company's horrible move. Then, I took 4 minutes to call the hotline for information and found out that Starbucks had done no such thing. I looked further and found that SAFER had already called off the boycott!!!
(click me)
My point was that we pro-reform types would be empowered if we didn't follow hype and did actually do real research. Then, our activism would be more effective. That's right. Put down the joint. Get out and vote or call/write a Representative or Senator. Activism requires active minds AND hands. Anybody that just bitches but does nothing else isn't an activist; they're "passivists".
The same thing goes here with Obama. If we took time to understand the actual political process we'd understand how to play the political game. Calling the guy a "commi" or blaming his "Muslim" religion (which is ridiculous because he's a Christian and his religion doesn't matter in the first place) is the simplemindedness that leaves us weak and easy to manipulate. Basically, we have to be BETTER than our enemy. We must outsmart and outmaneuver them with reality as our weapon. Otherwise... the status quo will remain.
The only way it's going to happen is if he gets in for a second term... Just imagine the commercials from the Republicans about "Obama wants to legalize the dangerous drugs that are destroying our precious youth!"... Make sure you go vote on any medical marijuana bills that end up on the ballot in your state... & then Federal changes are sure to follow.
YES! Exactly! This really isn't that difficult to see clearly! Politics is a blood sport and the Pres. would be savaged if he made this his priority right now. Political activism is the key for us to push our agenda. We can't just sit idle and wait for the Great Messiah to wash the country of anti-MJ sin.
He is not really "black" though, he is half & half. An F1 hybrid if you will, that explains the vigor!
Ha! Great analogy!
This is the United States, though. If you've got a drop of something other than white in you... you're denied inclusion in "club white". That's just the way it is. We need a "Club F1 Hybrid". Awesome! 
That was me and yes, I'm aware that the Prison Industrial Complex is alive and well here. My point was a rebuttal to teddybud who called Obama a "commi". I was illustrating that real communist regimes have had harshly anti-MJ policies. Obama is a liberator by comparison. Our current Pres. obviously did not set up our prisons.
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MostHigh
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75% of the US is on the internet, upwards of 228 million surfers...YouTube being one of the more popular destinations for their activities.
I'd say that's more than an ample cross section of US citizens to muster popular opinion from.
flamingheat
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we all know this weed would help a large % of the issues in this country. we also should bear in mind that the wars, jobs, healthcare, taxes, etc. effect a larger portion of the population. i'm as much for legalizing as the next guy, but to think that a resposible leader must consider all of his flock, not just the activist, loud ones. (nothing wrong with that btw). all in good time. also remember that the WHOLE FUCKING WORLD is in a recession. Dude has to meld the workings of the US economy and the rest of the world as well. If I was pres, i would be prioritizing my agenda like Obama is now. Jobs/ economics number 1. It also should be noted, I read someplace that 1 in 45 people you see walking around on the streets in the USA is a PAROLEE! we should start with that problem up near the top of the list too.
