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:::::::Cannabis is Medicine--Not Recreational:::::::

Do you view Cannabis as Medicinal or Recreational

  • Medicinal

    Votes: 11 15.3%
  • Recreational

    Votes: 6 8.3%
  • Both

    Votes: 57 79.2%
  • Needs more research

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • Total voters
    72

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Regular seed strain, I want regular seed so I can breed with it to select ones that help the most.

Any other reputable regular CBD seed producers?
 

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Grown by my mom :ROFLMAO:
 

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Thats a lot of trichomes! Thanks for sharing that! They would be good to grow for sure. They are feminized and wouldn't take up as much space in the garden. Of course I'd like to make some CBD seed, but boy I sure wouldn't want any of that pollen to get in my Sativa Candy Chunk cultivar. If I grow those to breed I need to do it some distance away from my plants to prevent accidental pollination.

Thinking I'm going to have a couple CBD hemp plants out since I may end up spending about $1500 on CBD hemp oil tinctures per year.
 

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UN Body Reaffirms That Marijuana Legalization Violates International Treaties, While Addressing Germany Cannabis Reform And U.S. Psychedelics Movement​

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The United Nations’s (UN) drug control body is reiterating that it considers legalizing marijuana for non-medical or scientific purposes a violation of international treaties, though it also said it appreciates that Germany’s government scaled back its cannabis plan ahead of a recent vote. The global narcotics agency is also taking note of the psychedelics policy reform movement in U.S. states.
This is mostly par for the course for the International Narcotics Control Board (INCB), which has routinely criticized countries for allowing the enactment of cannabis legalization due to their obligations under various Single Convention treaties going back to 1961. But as Germany entered the fold, and the U.S. has continued to move toward marijuana and psychedelics reform, the body is again making its disappointment known.
INCB’s 2023 annual report, which was published on Tuesday, “underscores” that member nations are required to “take such legislative and administrative measures as may be necessary” to criminalize “the production, manufacture, export, import, distribution of, trade in, use and possession of drugs” such as marijuana under decades-old treaty agreements.

“The Board continues to reiterate its concern regarding the legalization of the use of cannabis for non-medical and non-scientific purposes in several jurisdictions, with other jurisdictions considering similar action,” it said.
To that point, INCB also included a recommendation in the latest report to recall an analysis from its 2022 report that, at one point, suggested that the U.S. is out of compliance with drug treaty obligations because the federal government is passively allowing states within the country to legalize marijuana.

“The apparent tension between these provisions and the trend towards legalization must be addressed by the signatories to the three drug control conventions,” it said.



Meanwhile, the new report also discusses the board’s ongoing monitoring of efforts to legalize marijuana in Germany. The country’s parliament officially approved a bill to legalize cannabis nationwide last month.
“The Board has had ongoing discussions with the authorities in Germany and has taken note of the evolution of the originally planned control measures following concerns expressed by the European Commission, in particular with respect to the provisions on the sale of cannabis in speciality shops to adults for non-medical purposes,” it said.
That’s in reference to changes to the Germany government’s legalization plan that makes it so possession and home cultivation would become legal, while authorizing social clubs to distribute marijuana to members, but not establishing a full-scale commercial market right away.

Overall, while German supporters have said legalization would take effect in April if the legislation is enacted, there are questions about that timeline. The country’s Bundesrat may move to refer the legislation to a mediation committee to address criminal justice-related implications of the law, which could mean several months of additional discussion.
In the U.S., INCB recognized that while “cannabis remains subject to the highest level of control under the Controlled Substances Act, use of the drug has been legalized in several states for non-medical purposes.”

“The Board has repeatedly expressed its concern that these developments may be inconsistent with the country’s legal obligations as a party to the three international drug conventions,” it said.
“The Board continues to maintain a constructive dialogue with the Government of the United States on these matters,” it added.
The report further notes that President Joe Biden’s mass pardons for federal marijuana possession offenses are actively “being implemented” by the Justice Department.
“While the presidential pardon does not expunge the existing conviction, it removes civil or legal restrictions, such as on the rights to vote, hold office or sit on a jury, and lifts barriers to housing, employment and educational opportunities,” it says.
Notably, INCB did not mention the parallel presidential directive that’s underway to review the scheduling status of cannabis under federal law.

The reason that lack of mention stands out is because supporters and opponents of rescheduling under U.S. law, as recommended by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), have made competing arguments about the influence of international treaty obligations in the final decision that the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) is expected to hand down.
For example, a Democratic congresswoman recently implored DEA to “reject any argument” that rescheduling marijuana under federal law would constitute a violation of international treaty obligations. She also asked the agency to reveal a list of any “outside partners” it has met with to discuss the global implications of a potential cannabis reclassification.

Legal experts recently released an opinion that disputes that assessment. In fact, they argued that a move to Schedule III would better uphold the country’s broader obligations under international law to regulate cannabis in a way that protects public health and safety.
Among those who’ve raised concerns about treaty obligations blocking a move to Schedule III is Rep. Andy Harris (R-MD), who raised the issue in a letter sent to DEA Administrator Anne Milgram late last month, claiming that any reclassification that puts marijuana outside of Schedule I or Schedule II “would constitute a violation of the Single Convention,” referring to the 1961 United Nations (UN) Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs.
But as a coalition of 12 senators pointed out in a separate letter to Milgram a week earlier, the UN has since revised global cannabis scheduling policies and allowed other member states, such as Canada, to legalize and regulate marijuana without penalty. Those lawmakers urged DEA to legalize marijuana completely.

Additionally, INCB in its new report said that it is monitoring psychedelics policy developments in the U.S. and in other countries, including the legalization of psilocybin services in Oregon and a broader class of psychedelics in Colorado.
“A growing interest in the therapeutical potential of psychedelic drugs and the potential risks in their unregulated use has also been noted,” the report said. “While clinical studies on the use of psychedelics are conducted in some countries, most of the health, wellness and tourism businesses involving the use of psychedelics have been operating without much regulatory oversight. Unsupervised and experimental use of those substances, even in microdoses as self-medication, may put some vulnerable populations at risk.”

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Couldn't adult-use legalization be considered medicinal since cannabis is a medicine?

I really don't see where the contradiction exists except in the corrupt minds of the controlling corporate elite in high authority positions.

See, everyone has been trained to think of cannabis as a drug of abuse, therefore, everyone will suffer now because, supposedly, the people are incapable of using cannabis as a medicine without a doctor's guidance. This is not true, due to the favorable safety profile of cannabis. Its a valuable therapeutic that can be used in a wide range of dosages with little adverse or side effects.

Why can't we just say, alright adults are able to purchase or produce cannabis for use as medicine. Then we can go from there allowing people to live dignified lives where they are responsible for using cannabis in a way that is helpful for them.

Liberty or death. Where is the love? :smoke:
 

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I think this is a move to further desabilize the medical system. Doctors are FDA licensed to sell pharmaceuticals which does have any regulatory framework for natural medicines like cannabis.

Doctors, if they were allowed to prescribe cannabis could be held accountable for prescribing cannabis to too many patients. Maybe this will push the customers of the good doctors to go to teledoc services or other doctors they don't prefer to get the medical cannabis prescription.

I would think cannabis should be placed in the GRASS (generally recognized as safe substances) and have age restrictions in place to prevent minors from purchasing it. That way adults can use cannabis the way that helps them without having to play around finding out the doctor they love won't prescribe it to them.

This is getting silly.... And thats the point. Look over ==================>>>>>>>THERE!!!!
 

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Pipeline, you have compiled a lot of information, thank you!

I believe that there needs to be a third category besides (Medical, Recreational, Concentrates Crowd).

This is what I have seen developing in the past 12 to 15 years in America 🇺🇸 with great detrimental ramifications and consequences for Medical Cannabis progression.

The same abusive personalities that the alcohol industry has exposed with uncalcuable harm, injuries and death from it's abuse. With greater exposure to our youth through passing of Recreational cannabis.
The same personalities have sought after the strongest strains, the one hit wonders. Then this angst matured into a more potent delivery system with vaporizers, decarboxilation techniques and finally to dabbing.

(IN MY OPINION) This has caused untold damages to the minds of all people that have abusive character traits.

The very disastrous concept of WOKE IDEALOLOGIES came about. From the once electric minds of our youth now only seek the path of least resistance at other people's experiences. ( Free College, Free Healthcare, Talentless Inclusion, Non Competitive Diversity) to name a few.

With the most corrupt Government Participants possiblesince the 90's starting with the Clinton, Obama and Biden administration's specifically. That's 20 accumulative years of straight out lies to the American people about the GREEN RUSH TO RICHES.

Please note that all major advances in cannabis regulations and legalization have been presented by the people, not the Liberal Democrats that once forced by them in voted measures. Jump on taking all credit as if they did anything! Truth...

Regardless of how much noise that this definite minority of our population has made. There is a huge flaw in the game planning of our youth. When you think you have gained what you wanted for a political party, you have forsaken the process that actually made what we have now possible.

The millions of patients who suffer from a multitude of illnesses will wait decades longer for any real options through cannabis as a personally grown resource, because of the histaria and ignorance in the decayed minds of abusive personalities.

I don't hate our youth, I hate that dishonest politicians are giving financially destructive incentives (College Loan Forgiveness) to students in exchange for votes 🗳 to the very people that are already looking for the path of least resistance. This is very detrimental to our world and will only end in violent division through blood shed.

Remember the free love and kindness of the 60's was brought to a tragic violent end by youth seeking (Harder, Faster, Longer and Now) through LSD and Mescaline.
Bad doctrine being told to impressionable minds caused war protests and the Manson Family. A corrupt Democratic party killed President JFK to start the Vietnam War (Ukraine) war today.

Our current Democratic party is doing everything possible to remove the voice of reason for society in the form of bad doctrine, lies and indictment after indictment of Donald Trump. .

Truth doesn't change..
What you choose to believe doesn't change the truth...

Instant gratification is very unhealthy for mankind.
Peace farmerlion
 
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I agree. I think culture has been manipulated into thinking about cannabis in very particular ways. Not necessarily for what it is, a medicine. Everyone likes to rebel now and smoke more just to spite the system.
Look at this.

 

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I'd been self medicating for decades without knowing it. I was diagnosed with ADHD in my mid 50's, but been using cannabis since age 14. After diagnosis I was put on ritalin, which I have since stopped. The first time I took it, it reminded me so much of the speedy sativa's of my youth. Turns out they both activate dopamine.

At times in my life I have stopped cannabis for extended periods and found that I simply don't function as well. I enjoy it as a recreation, but these days have the ADHD and chronic pain to deal with so I consider it medical.

Great discussion on the politics of prohibition. I just hope this doesn't degenerate into a wider political discussion.
 

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I'd been self medicating for decades without knowing it. I was diagnosed with ADHD in my mid 50's, but been using cannabis since age 14. After diagnosis I was put on ritalin, which I have since stopped. The first time I took it, it reminded me so much of the speedy sativa's of my youth. Turns out they both activate dopamine.

At times in my life I have stopped cannabis for extended periods and found that I simply don't function as well. I enjoy it as a recreation, but these days have the ADHD and chronic pain to deal with so I consider it medical.

Great discussion on the politics of prohibition. I just hope this doesn't degenerate into a wider political discussion.
Do u use CBD /CBG too? I used to laugh of people only wanted to use these two cannabinoids ... I didn't understand why people wanted to edit out THC.. now my stupid ideas from my yonger self are put to shame big time ! both of these two wonderfull cannabinoids , has recently positively changed my life to the better. So I would advice all folks out there to try out these, and not to forget the type II cultivars too. 🥰
Psttttt i due stil luve THC domi weed 🤭🤗
 

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Cannabis: Evolution and Ethnobotany is a comprehensive, interdisciplinary exploration of the natural origins and early evolution of this famous plant, highlighting its historic role in the development of human societies. Cannabis has long been prized for the strong and durable fiber in its stalks, its edible and oil-rich seeds, and the psychoactive and medicinal compounds produced by its female flowers. The culturally valuable and often irreplaceable goods derived from cannabis deeply influenced the commercial, medical, ritual, and religious practices of cultures throughout the ages, and human desire for these commodities directed the evolution of the plant toward its contemporary varieties. As interest in cannabis grows and public debate over its many uses rises, this book will help us understand why humanity continues to rely on this plant and adapts it to suit our needs.
 

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Do u use CBD /CBG too? I used to laugh of people only wanted to use these two cannabinoids ... I didn't understand why people wanted to edit out THC.. now my stupid ideas from my yonger self are put to shame big time ! both of these two wonderfull cannabinoids , has recently positively changed my life to the better. So I would advice all folks out there to try out these, and not to forget the type II cultivars too. 🥰
Psttttt i due stil luve THC domi weed 🤭🤗
Yes, I use CBD and CBDA. I did have some oil with CBG but no longer use it. Was great for sleep.

pipeline, thanks for all the work you've put into this thread. (y)
 

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Yeah taking half mL hemp oil 1000 mg spagyric before bed every night is a game changer. Much more deep sleep and you wake up better. THC is good in edibles to make less issue of being overstimulated, but smoked cannabis is good to complement it by terpene modulation/ enterage effect.

Getting ready to try a treatment on my dog with cbd at night and THC infused coconut oil.
 

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"The dilated blood vessels could aid in heat dissipation from the skin’s surface through radiation and evaporation, assisting in cooling down the body."

I find cannabis helps me stay cool on hot days doing work. Seems to be more than just a pain relief effect, it helps your body manage the heat better. Helps you relax and allow the heat to not build up. Similar to the way long distance runners relax when they run.
 
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