Can we have a "drug problem discussion thread"?

[designer]

I am glad that Gypsy endorsed this thread with his presence.

Drug addiction is serious business.

I have been lucky in my life to be able to stay just far enough away from addicting drugs, save a small part of my life that was controlled by alcohol. I do know from close associations how controlling those kinds of drugs are. I wish you well and hope that a solution for you is uncovered in this thread.

I look at elderly and I see people eventually get addicted to drugs in all walks of life. I think the key is to try to prolong that drug free period for as long as you can. If we are all going to be addicted it would be better when the pain is insurmountable as with serious joint problems in your later years. That is my approach anyway.

Good luck and I hope someone here can help you. I know I have seen a lot of people touch on their battles with opiates here.

 

[Tronic]

benzos + opies = be very careful

 

[greenmatter]

stopped doing that stuff many years ago (even now i won't take an aspirin because it is a pill) yes , you could say i had a large size monkey on my back and it is one lesson i will never forget. my advice .... if you need help GET IT !! if talking about the subject helps DO IT!! stay away from all your "friends" that think they have this stuff under control. (don't want to say never.... but these things are rarely kept under control). the next time that little voice in your head tells you one is O.K. .... grab it by the throat, drag it into the light and beat the hell out of it.... that little voice is not your friend so treat it accordingly!!! and above all be honest with and trust in yourself. YOU CAN DO THIS !! the things you earn with blood,sweat and tears can never be taken from you. this is one of life situations where your have to fall in shit to come out smelling like a rose. keep your eye on the light at the end of the tunnel and you will get there!!!


IF YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN, OR YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN'T, YOU ARE USUALLY RIGHT.


K+ to the OP and anyone else who is trying ......

 

[jd4083]

for the posts and support on behalf of everyone, including myself, dealing with this BS....

been a couple of weeks clean now...only gonna keep getting easier....just gotta keep my head up. this thread is helping.

 

[greenmatter]

good to hear jd ...... best news i have heard all day

 

[mintz]

hold it up my man,just remember that shit is not fun,its sounds like from your past experiances you'v arlready beat it,but stay strong. blessings mintz

 

[Malaria]

i battled an opiate addiction for about 5 years, the last 2 years of which were IV Heroin. The last time i used heroin was December 24, 2010......went cold turkey and was the worst 3 weeks ever, but im ecstatic to say thats the last time i've used any opiate. I took a break from weed when i first quit, also, but im back to vaping multiple times daily, like i've always done. i can really say weed helps a lot with my addiction. i could say that a hundred times and it would still ring true.

 

[crazybear]

I'm glad your off the shit JD, I try not to take the morphine for pain , but, it's only a few days if that I can stand it, I'm hoping soon to have a continuous supply of weed to deal with the pain & not have to use the hard shit! Good for you!

 

[longearedfriend]

Someone said to me recently...

the only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs





(lol, I know that drug problems are a reality though)

 

[greenmatter]

someone said to me a long time ago .. shoot the snitch, not the drugs.

 

[ZoSo]

Recently I was getting way too deep into coke. And my sister was even worse. My uncle visited us and he didn't know what was up but he knew something was wrong, so he whisked us away to his home. We're now approaching 3 months of sobriety and are about to move back home and get on with our lives. I owe that man my life.

We decided to just go completely sober for the detoxing. We found a great young-people's AA group that was very tolerant of substance abuse. I never in a million years thought I would be in AA but it's really a great thing. When you're addicted you feel so alone and worthless but then you go to AA and everybody there has the exact same problems. You are no longer alone.

I never had a problem with alcohol so I think I'll be able to drink again. Just a beer with a dinner kind a thing. And I might smoke again occasionally if the business I'm planning to start has some success and I don't have to get a real job, but we'll see.

Good luck to everyone out there that's struggling. I know it came a lot easier for me than for most people.

 

[Sam the Caveman]

Glad you got cleaned up, what a great uncle you have, let him know it.

I never had a problem with alcohol so I think I'll be able to drink again. Just a beer with a dinner kind a thing. And I might smoke again occasionally if the business I'm planning to start has some success and I don't have to get a real job, but we'll see.

Well, try sharing that in an AA meeting and see how it goes. They will treat you like you jumped off the deep end with no floaties. Seriously though, I'd keep that to myself.

 

[redbudduckfoot]

eh, the drugs are not the problem, its the illegality of them. legalize drugs, use goes down, like in portugal.

some folks have an incredibly addictive personality, myself included. i learned that when i was 19, some 12 years ago. after wasting my first substantial outdoor harvest eating about 200 E pills and probably 500 hits of acid in a 4 month span, i realized this shit is stronger than I, and steered clear. self control is a beautiful thing.

there needs to be more education on addiction, not the rampant imprisonment of users getting busted for possession or minor dealing to support their habit. what a joke. it only perpetuates the problem, most get out and go right back in, moving on to harder drugs and more dangerous methods of procuring funds for said addiction. the government should be ashamed of itself. in the 21st century dealing with the problems like in the dark ages.

 

[greenmatter]

eh, the drugs are not the problem, its the illegality of them. legalize drugs, use goes down, like in portugal.

some folks have an incredibly addictive personality, myself included. i learned that when i was 19, some 12 years ago. after wasting my first substantial outdoor harvest eating about 200 E pills and probably 500 hits of acid in a 4 month span, i realized this shit is stronger than I, and steered clear. self control is a beautiful thing.

there needs to be more education on addiction, not the rampant imprisonment of users getting busted for possession or minor dealing to support their habit. what a joke. it only perpetuates the problem, most get out and go right back in, moving on to harder drugs and more dangerous methods of procuring funds for said addiction. the government should be ashamed of itself. in the 21st century dealing with the problems like in the dark ages.

can't say that i disagree with anything you said. plenty of truth in that post!!!


on the other hand we all know that we are playing with fire. the government is not the one with the addiction problem. we are. hating the government (and most days i do) does not help me stay clean and sober. staying clean and sober takes effort, and on some days some help. it is easy for a lot of people and for others it is a battle. fight as hard as you have to, just don't stop fighting.

 

[redbudduckfoot]

exactly..... we only have ourselves to blame for not doing something about the addiction, but its nobodies fault that they have the addiction. that hereditary. its the governments responsibility to educate its people on how to handle and treat the problem.

and not to start shit, but i hate portions of the government, not government in general. overall its doing its job, just needs a major overhaul in certain areas. i think you know which ones.

 

[Anita Bonghit]

My friend who has been eating painkillers everyday since before X-mas recently took major steps to avoid major ugliness.
1. Get rid of your phone!
2. Tell your loved ones.
3. Change your enabling friends.
He's been clean since Sunday but he tells me that eventually hes gonna go back to doing it once a month. which I feel is okay; nothing too bad with once a month, right?
Sometimes I feel like an enabler because I want him to eat mushrooms and molly and smoke more weed, but I feel like those drugs are positive if used responsibly.

 

[jd4083]

My friend who has been eating painkillers everyday since before X-mas recently took major steps to avoid major ugliness.
1. Get rid of your phone!
2. Tell your loved ones.
3. Change your enabling friends.
He's been clean since Sunday but he tells me that eventually hes gonna go back to doing it once a month. which I feel is okay; nothing too bad with once a month, right?
Sometimes I feel like an enabler because I want him to eat mushrooms and molly and smoke more weed, but I feel like those drugs are positive if used responsibly.

sounds like he didn't do #3 very well if you're still hanging around him...no offense...but you clearly don't care about your buddy that much if you think "once a month" is going to stick (or that it's okay to begin with...) or if you think that offering him drugs (yeah, mdma is a drug, and it's about as far from homeless as it gets, especially for an addict...) is acceptable...

 

[greenmatter]

My friend who has been eating painkillers everyday since before X-mas recently took major steps to avoid major ugliness.
1. Get rid of your phone!
2. Tell your loved ones.
3. Change your enabling friends.
He's been clean since Sunday but he tells me that eventually hes gonna go back to doing it once a month. which I feel is okay; nothing too bad with once a month, right?
Sometimes I feel like an enabler because I want him to eat mushrooms and molly and smoke more weed, but I feel like those drugs are positive if used responsibly.

:jawdrop: 1-3 are great... after that things went south .... if your friends reward for staying sober is to get trashed once a month he is on a slippery slope ..... and yes you are being an enabler because you don't see that fact that it is the addict and how he uses the drug more than the type of drug. don't abandon your friend because he needs your help. just make sure what you are doing is helping. if there is such thing as a responsible addict i never met one.

 

[Anita Bonghit]

As someone doesn't have any drug problems, I feel like drugs can be used responsibly. period.
I care about the kid, which is why I want to him to resort to other drugs.
mdma is a very positive drug.

painkillers are negative, but if he only does it once a month rather than once or twice a day. i cant really find any fault. its like a reward for being clean for a whole month.
i love the kid, but yeah, maybe my tactics are not too bright...
but any positive drug is better than painkillers, right?

 

[greenmatter]

i take it back, maybe you should stay away from your friend ......... i feel like you don't get it. period.

your tactics may prove to be deadly ...... think about what you are doing!!!!!!