Cambodian * Laos * Thai * Vietnam * Burma & SE Asians....

[romanoweed]

why you cant be so dependant on those things i reckon , on reports from folks you dont even know ,

yes, but on the other hand, your first reply or whatever said its simply subjective. thats all you said.
so you almost iplied dont conclude from smoke reports, now it sounds different , namely to be aware of what people said. And the funnyest thing, i already told you before that my Smoke reports talk of CLEARLY STATES . So, there is an element in the subjectivity of a smokereport that yesum knows that other people know that i dont wanna mention, that i know too. im tired talking to you as you always want to emphysize the possible unabilities of me, or whoever...

nice that you now went over to:

cant be so dependant on those things

because im A BIT dependant on those things, cause what to do else.? just grow every drugstrain in the world..?

So yeah, read smokereports people, but read the old threads too, and read them for years and years, and you might get an understanding..
I did concentrated and questioning, reserching thousand million threads (high numbers and depth of research) , i was AWARE of subjectivity, but like said there are CLEARLY DEFINED STATES expressed in words.. and people always want to tell me only because my personal mind it happend to me what happend.. endless bottomless talking down any abilities oi might have..
look again: i reserached clearly defined States in Smokereports and i found these clearly defined states mentioned about 4 times.. there is a lower state, called hallucination, seeing stuff with own eyes.. i have found those much more oftenn..
I also found those in certain regions more, and i want the anwser to it.. you just tell me: oh tripweed is in all those counties, waht a unprescise statement compared to the ones i make.. people will call skunk tripweed..
(i made those statements many times in other threads, now i skipped them , i knew somebody will coplain already ,,, so i just didnt feel like mentioning them, feels shitty)



i dint even ask you for your type of reply, i wanted to talk to piffcat, bye bye ye

in 2 weeks im gone from here (only in pm seldon, i wanted a last hint of things, talking to piffcat preffered BYE BYE)

 

[ledo]

first holiday in near on 4 years,
ive been running on fumes for a while now , ready for a recharge ,
and some delicious spicy food ....

Don’t forget about those ghost chilies I bred/gave you brother - I’ve got plenty more & improved seeds too if you’d like with next send - Mr duck mentioned he offered or shared from that last send too, some fun stuff & plenty options in there (12 different X’s IIRC) -seems he’s really enjoying the bubbas as of late

Slow dried huge ghost chilies; I put them in my morning tea, slowly gets spicier all day with refills, don’t brake one open though or watch out

 

[Donald Mallard]

Eat my ghost chilies I gave you brother

they have morphed into something sinister ,
even a mate who handles those types well asked what happened to them ,
maybe hybridized ,, i dunno ,, the weather , anyones guess , but they are evil ,, lol ... .

 

[ledo]

they have morphed into something sinister ,
even a mate who handles those types well asked what happened to them ,
maybe hybridized ,, i dunno ,, the weather , anyones guess , but they are evil ,, lol ... .

They were just waiting for some real sun to go from 2 million to 3 million Scovilles lol; seriously though some the really dark crinkly red ones are scary just to look at

 

[Donald Mallard]

im tired talking to you as you always want to emphysize the possible unabilities of me, or whoever...

i dint even ask you for your type of reply, i wanted to talk to piffcat, bye bye ye

in 2 weeks im gone from here (only in pm seldon, i wanted a last hint of things, talking to piffcat preffered BYE BYE)

hahaha ,
yes go ahead , talk to someone with similar personal experience as you have ,
this will help , u can both agree , but still get no closer to the real thing ....

 

[romanoweed]

again, stop talking about unabilities: i said just before:

I did concentrated and questioning, reserching thousand million threads

that means, that i dont BELIEVE blind. In fact i asked the some of the 3, 4 guys that even talked about the highest.. wether or not this happend, (i cant go in detail it feels like bad , zero confidence is brought to me) , so: i verified things, and still dont believe blind, BUT it gives ground to a POSSIBLE conclsion, not a factual.. But i guess only you know facts about 70s vietnamese, 70s cambodain, 70s thai, 70s laotian.. or werent you not even there... so you fought in vietnam i guess...? or werent you not there.. so you know all i guess without even having smoked the real old stuff from all regions? Or, oh, doesnt sound logical.. anyway

good you have me, not because i know it all, but because i know some bits that some dont know. but yeah, i guess thats talked down as:

u can both agree , but still get no closer to the real thing ....

me sympathizing with others and blindly agreeing..

so i guess you talk about any possible inabilities (blindness from believe) there ever can be..
so, BYE BYE.

 

[Rgd]

what im really interested is wether or not DALAT Vietnam was a pure Strain or not. it was seemingly the trippyest ever stuff, from what i hear. i have 3, or 4 reports specifically mentioning it was the best strongest most wonderful of vietnam in the 70s... and one of the strongest in the world, flying weed.

IF i knew it has no foreign influence than i know much partly how to preserve the old strains indefinitly..

The from origin dalat seeds from dee wee

We’re mostly hermi with most plants being

Similar to hemp

He got one great plant out of 99

I was given ten seeds from the choice plant

Most were hermi and not potent

One was maybe my best weed to smoke ever

 

[romanoweed]

cool someone talking about what isay. but i meant the region dalat. the dalat you speak is just one of multiple lines, and even a slightly modern collection, not as cool. but cool.(from what i guess, heard)
i had 4 people unrelated on various forums telling best of vietnam from dalat Region.

like i also tried to say: laos is my blank spot, i cant say for certain if the quality was just the same as dalat.
i just specualted it is, way less reports from laos than vietnam, likely or soley cause not much westeners there in the 70s.. eventually also cause it wasnt as good, will never know .. but im more inclined to think it was same good as Viet, but few peoples there to experience it.
viet . laos are my two areas where i think of highest effects ever.
all based on things i heard, experienced.

lovely weed there, superb, modern collections are just a tad different

 

[Piff_cat]

if you check out blackcatgenetics333 he has done substantial exploration on snowhighs vietnam preservations- dalat, vietnam black and purple viet( viet black purple stem x dalat purple stem).

there is some serious diversity goin on there and when you look at the purple stem selections the mutations/chromosome abnormalities are most severe. primal drug type landraces actually have signigicantly larger genomes then other types which is highly unusual for a single species.

these are the same areas we find red xylem mutants with enhanced branching, morphological oddities and additive increases in knox1 gene copy numbers(cytokins enhance branching/vigor) its also where we find the most complete cannabinoid profiles which are very high in haze- cbc, cbl, cbt and cbgm. furthermore these types thc synthase enzymes are different belonging to a primal clade only found in korea, japan, ne china, yunnan/north vietnam. if we overlay the genome sizes compared to the basal cannabis clade recently found in east asia alot of it matches right up. the basal members have larger genomes and more red xylem mutants.

 

[harvestreaper]

interesting reading as always piff ,,,in relation to branching my best plant i ever had had extreme vigour an branching like i just dont see today because of the trait her nickname was "the thing" after the 80s horror film ,,,i guess it must have had a good dose of cytokins .... was a 80s ..sk x haze

 

[ledo]

if you check out blackcatgenetics333 he has done substantial exploration on snowhighs vietnam preservations- dalat, vietnam black and purple viet( viet black purple stem x dalat purple stem).

there is some serious diversity goin on there and when you look at the purple stem selections the mutations/chromosome abnormalities are most severe. primal drug type landraces actually have signigicantly larger genomes then other types which is highly unusual for a single species.

these are the same areas we find red xylem mutants with enhanced branching, morphological oddities and additive increases in knox1 gene copy numbers(cytokins enhance branching/vigor) its also where we find the most complete cannabinoid profiles which are very high in haze- cbc, cbl, cbt and cbgm. furthermore these types thc synthase enzymes are different belonging to a primal clade only found in korea, japan, ne china, yunnan/north vietnam. if we overlay the genome sizes compared to the basal cannabis clade recently found in east asia alot of it matches right up. the basal members have larger genomes and more red xylem mutants.
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Are you pointing towards Peru above on purpose? I’d think anything near the Atacama & those extreme UV’s would whack a plants defenses & mutations into overdrive, but Peru is a bit North IIRC but it’s gotta be blasted at elevation too with extreme UV’s & more Jungle like too - I’d love to visit one day that’s for sure; good chunk my life growing up a coach of mine was Peruvian & the other Nigerian - two amazing people, I digress

 

[yesum]

I grew out some Dalat x Black Congo, Snowhigh Vietnamese Laughing Grass. Solid sativa high, but not too exceptional. I do not remember laughing much on it btw. The Laos strains from RSC are equal or better depending on my mood or pheno smoked.

This Mong Hsat is a nice comfortable high. Can get trippy with enough smoked and low tolerance. Not real speedy like many from around that area.

 

[ledo]

The thin ones in back here are all Cambodian x Laos or SE Asian dominate X’s

Busy time year, many hundreds of spring starts going inside alone

Peace

 

[yesum]

The ILE Mong Hsat is in front and a TLT Congo Black is in back. No purple on my three Mong Hsat plants as some photos of it in the ILE site show. The Mong Hsat started in veg looking like indica plants, quite wide leaves. The leaves coming out now are small and narrow.

I have a Guerrero in veg that looks like an indica, quite wide leaves. So you have to grow out the plant and of course smoke it to determine what it is about. This is 62 days of flower and the Congo is ready to chop. The Mong has another week or 3? It smokes great already. I am gonna reveg or clone it.

You can see what I was talking about with keeping these plants short vertically. The Mong is a bit stony but quite sativa and just very nice in effect. Medium potency quite strong I guess. Not killer. Functional.

 

[Piff_cat]

interesting reading as always piff ,,,in relation to branching my best plant i ever had had extreme vigour an branching like i just dont see today because of the trait her nickname was "the thing" after the 80s horror film ,,,i guess it must have had a good dose of cytokins .... was a 80s ..sk x haze

i recently read some of the hokkaido work by juno from red ox i think. he found some crazy drug type female and a very late flowering male with all the red traits. anyway the line can be done in 8 weeks, but juno noticed it could be left in flower to continually reflower over and over like a 100 day haze would. he started pinching the tops at week 8 before the reflower and found that it redistributed the hormones apical direction and create these 4 headed tops.
this line is green cheese hokkaido which uses the late flowering red male from below

after talkin to him about it a bit and reading the aneuploid observations in the semi feral kullu/shimla article ive started to germinate my seedlings in paper towel for a bit longer to observe if the hypotcotyl is red or if the endosperm is unusually large. most chromosome abnormality is caused by mixoploid pollen with an assortment of sterile, oversized genome, and normal. but since the same pollen creates the seed and endosperm its a great window to view possible freaks. check out this mango haze outlier i found like this

 

[harvestreaper]

i recently read some of the hokkaido work by juno from red ox i think. he found some crazy drug type female and a very late flowering male with all the red traits. anyway the line can be done in 8 weeks, but juno noticed it could be left in flower to continually reflower over and over like a 100 day haze would. he started pinching the tops at week 8 before the reflower and found that it redistributed the hormones apical direction and create these 4 headed tops.
this line is green cheese hokkaido which uses the late flowering red male from below
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after talkin to him about it a bit and reading the aneuploid observations in the semi feral kullu/shimla article ive started to germinate my seedlings in paper towel for a bit longer to observe if the hypotcotyl is red or if the endosperm is unusually large. most chromosome abnormality is caused by mixoploid pollen with an assortment of sterile, oversized genome, and normal. but since the same pollen creates the seed and endosperm its a great window to view possible freaks. check out this mango haze outlier i found like this
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the female i mentioned earlier also had those purple streaks thru the stem sadly no pics ,,,they are fascinating plants an im sure ill be looking even closer now with all the info you bring gotta admit i struggle with someof he info you smarter than me but what i can get is good ,,keep it coming

 

[Piff_cat]

the female i mentioned earlier also had those purple streaks thru the stem sadly no pics ,,,they are fascinating plants an im sure ill be looking even closer now with all the info you bring gotta admit i struggle with someof he info you smarter than me but what i can get is good ,,keep it coming

lol thanks man i always have to look stuff up while reading these science papers. looking back alot of the potent plants have the red stem or more likely the stripes. ii like to try for a bridge between the people who love the plant with some useable science type stuff to learn or improve. stone guru has inspired me to study how the mutant traits accumulate/segregate line breeding the outliers using double f1s which both have traits on both sides. he also does some cool male reversal stuff. and his .39 ocimene score with silk is by far highest yet second is .28 i think

stones silk works resin stems/square/exagerrated growth notice how alot of the smaller leaves on mutant plants are all curled up once again a sign of increased phytohormones. similar to the leaf curl in cbh

 

[ledo]

lol thanks man i always have to look stuff up while reading these science papers. looking back alot of the potent plants have the red stem or more likely the stripes. ii like to try for a bridge between the people who love the plant with some useable science type stuff to learn or improve. stone guru has inspired me to study how the mutant traits accumulate/segregate line breeding the outliers using double f1s which both have traits on both sides. he also does some cool male reversal stuff. and his .39 ocimene score with silk is by far highest yet second is .28 i think

stones silk works resin stems/square/exagerrated growth notice how alot of the smaller leaves on mutant plants are all curled up once again a sign of increased phytohormones. similar to the leaf curl in cbh
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Many thanks for sharing as always..... some comments

one uses Ethephon to reverse males, hippies been doing it forever with a diluted version called Florel.... I had males turn once in a garage that had many hundreds of lbs of ripening fruit, what a fun time it was figuring that one out.....

This curl you see below is quintessential revegetation swirl my friend, interestingly a seed seller in here was recently mentioning it was unique to his Haze ( I called it out, crickets), hahaha - This is just what a plant does when it reveges.....

Nothing ever beats hands on experience but a little bit of reading helps too, few people I know have read as much as I have, these days I spend most my time with the subjects though... ha

PS: Racing stripes can be due many things, Genetics, Pheno expressions due mineral deficiency etc.. I wouldn't go hunting the Red or racing stripes as in "all in" method of selection at any stage of a plants developments personally, probably wouldn't even be in a top 10 selection criterion of mine, just my .02....

PPS: This below is what happens almost always when you bend / brake any stem but especially on NLD, I've got pics of ones larger than golfballs somewhere...... its more stress lines than anyrthing else, showing up most pronounced as deficiencies immmediately around the brakes / bends

 

[harvestreaper]

agree on all points there led the leaf curl very common on reveg ,,bend a stem big bulbbous elbow very common to ,i figured it must be something scientific an over my head lol thanks for bringing me back lol would never breed for red/stripey stems but my grail sk/haze had the stripes along with beautiful horn shaped buds that formed as intricate as a snowlake then eventually filled the arms fruity,, sticky ,, i gotta stop now or il upset meself lol

 

[RoostaPhish]

Didnt grow any peppers last year as I still had a lot from the previous. But man my jalapenos were so damn hot that when I pickled them it made EVERY orifice on my body burn. And I mean every! Showers did not help. Literally had to dunk my junk in milk.