Calif. pot dispensaries told by feds to shut down

[megayields]

So true.....that's why you HAVE to think smarter and evolve constantly , run your own distribution model YOU be in charge of what YOU pay yourself ....get it??

Hello?

Or have a "hook up" back east....some of us do both.

Think smarter = work less = more $$ paper boo boo..

 

[meduser180056]

I'll never consign to a dispensary again nor will I fight with 20 other vendors just to show the dispos what I have. It's a joke. I used to go to purple heart in Oakland and get ushered to the front of the bullshit line they have on vendor days and get cashed out at 3800 give or take a couple hundred depending on quality cause I had a killer OG cut. Haven't been back in years tho and they still hit me up sometimes asking bout my OG, but fuck that I hate it.

As far as consignment goes I'm not a fucking credit card and I'm not willing to finance your shady quasi-legal establishment that could get raided or robbed of product at any moment. Doing consignment is like giving out a ridiculously high risk loan.

 

[CanniDo Cowboy]

Fellas, the bottom line is: you can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig. Consignment is fronting, pure and simple. Pretty smart marketing ploy, however it got started, on the part of dispensaries, if you think about it. Somewhere in the purple haze, they (the dispensaries) managed to dupe vendors into giving payments for wholesale product in return for resale inventory. All under the guise of "We're here for you man". LOL I'm sure if Billy Graham was still around, he'd be sayin "God told me to open this dispensary..." Incidently, I had one dispensary try to convince me that consignments were Fed law and it was the only way vendor transactions could be done...

The stupidity of the consignment ruse is on us, the grower/vendors. We let it happen. In California, every startup dispensary is required to sign a waiver clause basically stating that the dispensary is on their own if the Feds come crashing in because a dispensary is still illegal under the eyes of Fed law and that they, (the dispensaries) cannot hold the city in which they operate liable and that any license fees paid are NON-REFUNDABLE, in such an event. In other words, if the Feds show up, your dispensary-ass will get kicked to the curb by the same folks who took your money and said "Welcome to our town bro..." Why in the hell would you consign/front your meds to ANYONE required to sign that little gem???

Here's the pitiful part. The Feds have come down on the state of California like the 3rd Reich, dispensaries are dropping like flies, and yet dumbass vendors are still consigning/fronting their product to these dispensaries as if nothing has changed. Wake up vendor/stoners, it's nothing more than a smoke and mirrors show, built on the backs of the sick and dying by so called - compassionate/we're all in this together con artists who ask you to pay no mind to the sound of the cash register hidden behind the curtain...CC

 

[CanniDo Cowboy]

And the madness continues...


" Sheriff Tom Allman of Mendocino County
​The one-of-a-kind cooperation between medical marijuana growers and the Mendocino County Sheriff's Department -- which legitimized cannabis cultivation in the eyes of the law and saved the jobs of deputies facing layoffs -- is at risk, pending the outcome of a court case.

Since 2010, Mendocino County marijuana growers with a doctor's recommendation have been permitted to license plants with Sheriff Tom Allman's department, under chapter 9.31 of the Mendocino County Code. Growers wishing to cultivate up to 99 plants must pay the Sheriff's Department an inspection fee and a $50 per-plant permit fee. In return, growers receive zip-ties that mark each of their 99 plants as certified legal, and the promise that the inspected medical marijuana crop won't be raided by local law enforcement.

But a court case out of Southern California could invalidate the program -- the first and only of its kind in California, according to Mendocinco County Counsel Jeanine B. Nadel.

In its opinion on Pack v. Long Beach, the state Court of Appeals ruled that state and local governments cannot issue permits for medical marijuana dispensaries or grows because in doing so, the government would violate the federal Controlled Substances Act.

"If the Pack decision stands, I think we would have issue with our permitting procedure," Nadel told SF Weekly shortly before the new year. "Our permit for 99 plants might be in jeopardy."

The state Supreme Court is expected to decide if it will hear an appeal from the city of Long Beach on the Pack decision sometime in February. If an appeal is heard, the 9.31 program can continue as normal while the case is in the courts, Nadel said.

If "the Supreme Court doesn't review it, or doesn't depublish [the lower court's decision], I think the county will have to look at re-evaluating the permitting portion of 9.31, because that's what Pack talks about," said Nadel, who added that she believes the voluntary zip-ties would be able to continue.

Growers with a crop of up to 25 plants are not required to obtain zip-ties, but may voluntarily choose to do so for $25 per plant.

The Pack decision has led cities and counties across the state to delay, rethink, or cancel outright laws permitting dispensaries and cultivation sites. In San Francisco, all new dispensary permit applications are on hold pending Supreme Court action.

A total of 91 growers participated in the Mendocino zip-tie program in 2011, according to Sergeant Randy Johnson, who oversees the program. That was good for $600,000 in revenue for the department, up from $60,000 in 2010, Johnson said.

The money saved the jobs of seven sheriff's deputies whose positions were identified for layoffs, Allman said last year. Most of Mendocino is unincorporated rural land, which means the Ukiah-based Sheriff's Department is the only law enforcement presence for an area about the size of Connecticut.

As much as two-thirds of Mendocino County's economy depends on medical marijuana, a 2009 CNBC documentary estimated.

Growers in Mendocino County were first informed of the Pack decision's potential impact in December, according to Chris Van Hook, an attorney who works as a third-party inspector for the 9.31 program in Mendocino County.

"It hasn't been suspended at the moment, but right now, everybody's paused," he said. "We're optimistic we can be up and running this year."

County supervisor John McCowen, who authored the law, did not reply to telephone messages seeking comment. Reached via cell phone, Allman declined to comment to SF Weekly."

 

[Bullfrog44]

Fuck lawyers, they need to get a life.

 

[CanniDo Cowboy]

Fuck lawyers, they need to get a life.

LOL...Yea, there is that...But the reality is that quite a few lawyers HAVE found a life, all thanks to the Feds, by representing or preying upon (depending on which way you want to look at it), the poor schmucks caught in the middle of the MJ war(that would include you and me) and most of the lawyers really dont know jack about lawyering in the med game to begin with.

Funny thing is tho, the lawyers tend to believe, we as growers, have vast riches buried in and amongst them thar hills...LOL For some growers that might be true, but for most of us, we would most likely be better off financially if we were growing prize winning orchids...In the end, if and when you find your grow-ass in a sling, the only ones who really win...are the lawyers...CC

 

[Grendelkhan]

Well the clubs continue to drop in Sacramento. The one on 10 and v is dead and all about wellness on 19th and S just got their love letter in the mail and looks like they are next to go the way of the dodo. Interesting times indeed.

 

[megayields]

Well the clubs continue to drop in Sacramento. The one on 10 and v is dead and all about wellness on 19th and S just got their love letter in the mail and looks like they are next to go the way of the dodo. Interesting times indeed.

One more club way up in Boulder Creek (in the mountains above Santa Cruz) I was told, closed recently, drove up their and yep, their gone.

 

[Sam the Caveman]

I do remember someone commenting a few months ago about how there are more dispensaries in Cali under Obama than Bush...

I'm just pointing out how fast things can turn around.

These closing should give everyone the motivation to vote for total legalization this year.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

These closing should give everyone the motivation to vote for total legalization this year.

I wouldnt hold your breath... too many small fish with small minds.

 

[monkey5]

I do remember someone commenting a few months ago about how there are more dispensaries in Cali under Obama than Bush...

I'm just pointing out how fast things can turn around.

These closing should give everyone the motivation to vote for total legalization this year.

Sam the Caveman, I am with you! Sounds like a great idea! Legalization! I am ready for that! monkey5

 

[Bullfrog44]

You know if the last bill passed we wouldn't be having this problem. People need to get out and vote this election.

 

[Madjag]

I just got this email. This will be good in the end. Everything that has happened in the past couple of months will serve as fuel to the fire. I honestly think this is how Obama pushes for legalization without having his name attached to it. Send out IRS bills, seize accounts, and try to shut everyone down. All that will do is motivate the "average Joe" to get a full legalization initiative passed. They are not doing this in Colorado. (because of clear rules)I really do believe this is a slight of hand trick to push things along faster. It makes sense.

I agree totally: Obama's strategists are doing similar moves in other important arenas like the Euro crisis and the natural gas pipeline veto. His unseen hand will also rally voters at the perfect moment with only the smallest comment from him regarding his true intention concerning weed. Brilliant manipulation, just like his original campaign.

 

[CanniDo Cowboy]

Speakin of the "average Joe", ol Joe is burnin whatever brain cells he has left just tryin to understand and keep up:

Marijuana
S.F. Begins Issuing Medical Marijuana Dispensary Permits Again
By Chris Roberts Tue., Jan. 24 2012 at 7:45 AM Comments (12)
Categories: Law & Order, Marijuana
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It's a go -- for now.
​San Francisco has begun issuing medical marijuana dispensary licenses again, following a recent state Supreme court decision that will allow local pot dispensaries to do business -- for now.

The city's Medical Cannabis Act permitting process had been on hold for several months, following a state appeals court ruling in Pack vs. Long Beach. The ruling said that city or county laws regulating medical marijuana violated federal law; the decision led cities and counties throughout the state to suspend, reconsider, or repeal their regulatory schemes.

The Supreme Court agreed to hear an appeal, and while that's being considered, the lower court's ruling has become invalidated, a spokesman for San Francisco City Attorney Dennis Herrera said Friday. That means the Department of Public Health's medical marijuana permits can continue as normal, and several proposed San Francisco dispensaries waiting in the wings can finally receive city approval to do business.

But there's rumors that the Justice Department is considering suing cities that regulate state-legal marijuana. If that happens, it could be game over -- again.
But this state court decision hasn't had nearly the impact of the United States Attorneys' coordinated crackdown, which has forced hundreds of dispensaries in San Diego, Sacramento, and the Bay Area to close. Not every city or county in California halted permitting pot clubs as a result of the court decision -- Oakland, for example, charged ahead with reviewing applications for up to four new permits in the city.

Nonetheless, San Francisco will "continue processing permits under the City ordinance, pending a decision by the Supreme Court," City Attorney spokesman Jack Song wrote in an e-mail. "Department of Public Health has resumed its processing of permits."

At least four new proposed medical marijuana dispensaries had hearings before the Planning Commission -- one of the last hurdles to clear before a new storefront pot club can begin business -- delayed because of the Pack decision, including three on Mission Street in the Excelsior District. The Green Cross -- which is currently delivery only -- has its permit hearing on Feb. 16, but has asked city planners to move it to an earlier date. The dispensary's hearing was originaly scheduled for October.

The outlier at this point is the Justice Department. Letters from U.S. Attorney for Northern California Melinda Haag have led five San Francisco dispensaries to shut their doors. An anonymous source told California Watch's Michael Montgomery that Haag was considering suing Mendocino County, which issues licenses and collects permit inspection fees for growers of up to 99 plants under county law. There was fear that the Pack decision would suspend that program -- but the feds could end it entirely.

The Mendocino County Board of Supervisors is scheduled to consider its 9.31 program -- so named for the section of civil code which allows it -- at its meeting Tuesday.

But yesterday, speaking of Mendo Co Board Of Boobs and their impending vote:

County's medical marijuana permit program canceled
By TIFFANY REVELLE The Daily Journal
Updated: 01/24/2012 01:39:24 PM PST

Mendocino County supervisors voted 4-1 to eliminate the county's medical marijuana permit program Tuesday after more than an hour of public comment.
Third District Supervisor John Pinches dissented, saying the county should repeal its medical marijuana ordinance, County Code 9.31, completely and calling marijuana law "confusing."
Responding to a threat of legal action from Melinda Haag of the U.S. Attorney's Office, Mendocino County Counsel Jeanine Nadel proposed that the Board of Supervisors remove from the ordinance all language referring to a program that allows collectives to grow up to 99 plants per parcel with a permit.
"They were threatening to file an injunction against our ordinance and try to throw it out in court, and also threatening to individually go after county officials who were supporting these laws, which they believed to be in violation of federal law," 5th District Supervisor Dan Hamburg said after the vote.
Hamburg and 1st District Supervisor Carre Brown supported Nadel's recommendation, worried that the federal government would withhold money that comes to Mendocino County for its social service and other programs.
Second District Supervisor John McCowen argued that removing the permitting program would boost black market prices for marijuana and make it more readily available to children.
The permitting program allows collectives an exemption to the county's 25-plant-per-parcel plant limit if they get a permit and follow a set of
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rules. Nadel's revised ordinance returns to the 25-plant limit for all growers.
A steady stream of speakers -- many of them giving only first names on the record -- made their way up to the podium to voice their concerns about the changes to the ordinance.
Several speakers urged the county to keep the 99-plant exemption and make the permitting process voluntary. Many of them said they would voluntarily comply with the county's regulations and continue paying the permit fees, saying the fee revenue benefited the Mendocino County Sheriff's Office.
McCowen suggested making the 99-plant exemption voluntary and requiring growers to comply with state law, but Nadel said the collection of fees at all would be "problematic."
Some speakers argued that the county's regulations brought the marijuana industry up from the underground, and that removing the county's oversight and support would drive it back down. Many urged the board to fight the federal threat, saying there were no legal grounds for it.
Other speakers, most representing the Mendocino Medical Cannabis Collectives Association, took issue with a set of environmental regulations recently added to the ordinance, and with other issues in the ordinance some speakers said were "offensive" to growers, and had been since they were written.
The board removed three of the environmental regulations, including one that disallowed the use of diesel generators, a requirement that growers using rental property notify a landlord, and a requirement that a doctor's recommendation be displayed in a medical marijuana garden.
Two speakers were opposed to marijuana in general.

So, lets review: The 2 major court rulings that have recently put California into a medical MMJ tail spin are now being reviewed. San Francisco, judging by the above news article, has come out of their bunkers and think the bombing has ceased, or at least lightened up enough to unshutter a few doors. Hell, the Gov of Arizona just recently gave approval to begin accepting dispensary apps as early as this coming Sept once she learned the 2 court cases were being reviewed. But, but, but: WTF is up with the Mendo county crew? I know Mendo Co is a bit off the beaten path but damn, are they that arrogant or are they just seriously out of touch? Meanwhile, in good ol Shasta Co, our dastardly and mostly dumb DA acquired a bad & foolish case of denial when he said: "So what...? Doesnt change anything. The dispensaries still must go..." My question is: Who is doin the smoking & tokin more here: Us or them...? CC

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) to the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791.[1] The Tenth Amendment states the Constitution's principle of federalism by providing that powers not granted to the federal government nor prohibited to the States by the Constitution are reserved to the States or the people.

Fuck the federal government. They are pushing for war with the people, violating states rights issues all over the board. 100 years from now people might be saying a civil war was not just started over hemp. It was started because the federal government is tyrannical. just look at all the pissed off Americans on both sides of the political spectrum. literally 99 percent of the adult U.S. population is furious. I have heard angry out burst from the most mild centrist people.

 

[guest8905]

fuckem

putem in the sun

 

[Z-ro]

'powers not granted to the federal government nor prohibited to the States by the Constitution are reserved to the States or the people.'


Am I missing something here, or is marijuana not prohibited under fed law? I dont really see how using it for meds vs recreation differs when it comes to the fact that MJ is federally illegal any way you slice it...I honestly cant believe 'MMJ' has even lasted this long, the whole damn thing is a sham and everyone knows it thats why all the feds have to do is come through and flex nuts and everyone runs with tail tucked. Things are out of control here and this is just their way of checkin us. Im all for marijuana law reform, but the current system of 'mmj' is straight up bullshit and I cant defend it! All the feds care about in this case is money and maybe a little bit of international image. Set new laws with better regulations and pay taxes and Id be willing to bet anything the feds let it be, theyre just tired of seeing wanna be gangsters and illegal immigrants making millions off herb and not getting their cut. Yea the government is fucked right now and a lot of people arent happy, but life will continue to move forward regardless of what paranoid induced psychosis you conspiracy theorists think. There is feds on this and every other mj site out there, and if all I had to contribute to said sites was to hype about how Im gonna shoot cops and start a civil war, no matter my personal opinion, Id rather keep my mouth shut before I found my self on the wrong end of a conspiracy charge. At the end of the day you still live in the USA and have to play by the rules while youre here, if you dont like it, LEAVE. let me know if you find something better.

 

[Hydrosun]

'powers not granted to the federal government nor prohibited to the States by the Constitution are reserved to the States or the people.'


Am I missing something here, or is marijuana not prohibited under fed law? I dont really see how using it for meds vs recreation differs when it comes to the fact that MJ is federally illegal any way you slice it...I honestly cant believe 'MMJ' has even lasted this long, the whole damn thing is a sham and everyone knows it thats why all the feds have to do is come through and flex nuts and everyone runs with tail tucked. Things are out of control here and this is just their way of checkin us. Im all for marijuana law reform, but the current system of 'mmj' is straight up bullshit and I cant defend it! All the feds care about in this case is money and maybe a little bit of international image. Set new laws with better regulations and pay taxes and Id be willing to bet anything the feds let it be, theyre just tired of seeing wanna be gangsters and illegal immigrants making millions off herb and not getting their cut. Yea the government is fucked right now and a lot of people arent happy, but life will continue to move forward regardless of what paranoid induced psychosis you conspiracy theorists think. There is feds on this and every other mj site out there, and if all I had to contribute to said sites was to hype about how Im gonna shoot cops and start a civil war, no matter my personal opinion, Id rather keep my mouth shut before I found my self on the wrong end of a conspiracy charge. At the end of the day you still live in the USA and have to play by the rules while youre here, if you dont like it, LEAVE. let me know if you find something better.

Yes you are missing the point. Since there is NO POWER to prohibit agricultural products granted to the government in the US Constitution THEN the federal government has NO legal authority to so prohibit. This power or right is with the state or people NOT the federal government.

There are a few states suing the federal government right now about the violation of the states and peoples constitutional rights. The federal government is overstepping.

If you'd rather keep your mouth shut that is your right. In fact I would prefer you did. Then you wouldn't have to waste your breath trying to convince conspiracy theorists that Big Brother is our friend or we should LEAVE your dictatorial paradise.

 

[TribalSeeds]

As long as dispensaries are charging 50-60+ 1/8, they should be shutdown.
those bastards at Harborside didn't help when they were worried over profiting under 2 mil for the year.
I can get a qp of better herb for the same price it costs for an oz of top shelf bunk in some of these clubs.

 

[Hydrosun]

As long as dispensaries are charging 50-60+ 1/8, they should be shutdown.
those bastards at Harborside didn't help when they were worried over profiting under 2 mil for the year.
I can get a qp of better herb for the same price it costs for an oz of top shelf bunk in some of these clubs.

And if someone else thinks that your prices aren't good should the federal government shut your ass down as well?

I am all for NO ONE getting shut down and the government getting out of peoples homes and gardens. You want to see the price come down LEGALIZE IT (welcome back Skip)!