Yuppies and people who think they're doing everyone a favor by bringing the book into it ruin. fucking. everything.
Fucking bitch-made by-the-book pussies is what they are. You can thank those sort of clowns for "legalization and regulation"
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Calaveras County Has Screwed Over Every Legal Grower
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Yuppies and people who think they're doing everyone a favor by bringing the book into it ruin. fucking. everything.
Fucking bitch-made by-the-book pussies is what they are. You can thank those sort of clowns for "legalization and regulation"
Cant say there wasn't a strong presence here on IC warning of exactly many of these very same scenarios. . . oh well 
Calaveras chronicles #43= It is like living in Bizarro world in Calaveras county. The county supervisors voted to ban commercial cultivation last month. At the same time growers applications filed 2 years ago are still being processed. Maybe it is to justify keeping their money, after all the farmers did have 2 years to grow with permits.
Many lawsuits are being filed against the county for various reasons by growers.
The sheriff wants to apply for a $45,000 grant for eradication this year. This amount should cover maybe one operation with feds. , fish and game and a few hours chopper time. It will be easy for the sheriff to spot illegal grows since they are all illegal now.
I picked up some supplies at the big mega-grow store the other day. I asked them if they were going to keep the doors open with the ban in place. They were still well stocked and said they planned to stay open but I was the only customer in the store at a time when outdoor farmers are normally starting to ramp up. The store is really handy as they have everything a farmer could use but tomato farmers alone will not pay their bills.
The lack of big trucks hauling massive amounts of pricey soil is noticeable compared to last year.
I think all neighboring counties have banned commercial farming.
P.S. Grow 6 big'uns
Many lawsuits are being filed against the county for various reasons by growers.
The sheriff wants to apply for a $45,000 grant for eradication this year. This amount should cover maybe one operation with feds. , fish and game and a few hours chopper time. It will be easy for the sheriff to spot illegal grows since they are all illegal now.
I picked up some supplies at the big mega-grow store the other day. I asked them if they were going to keep the doors open with the ban in place. They were still well stocked and said they planned to stay open but I was the only customer in the store at a time when outdoor farmers are normally starting to ramp up. The store is really handy as they have everything a farmer could use but tomato farmers alone will not pay their bills.
The lack of big trucks hauling massive amounts of pricey soil is noticeable compared to last year.
I think all neighboring counties have banned commercial farming.
P.S. Grow 6 big'uns
As a Brit whose country is still in the 1980s re legislation (and long may it continue) may I ask why it's a bad thing that commercial cultivation has been banned? It sounds like it was causing lots of problems.
Surely you can just carry on growing illegally?
Surely you can just carry on growing illegally?
Crazy Chester
Well-known member
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"Surely you can just carry on growing illegally?"[/FONT]
Given the onerous licensing laws, con-artist local governments like Calaveras County and the change in the penal code that came with all that, there certainly is an incentive for illegal growers in California to continue operating illegally.
One can literally grow out millions of pounds, possess and sell it all, get caught and face only misdemeanors (unless they were doing business with a minor or it is their third or subsequent offense).
Given the onerous licensing laws, con-artist local governments like Calaveras County and the change in the penal code that came with all that, there certainly is an incentive for illegal growers in California to continue operating illegally.
One can literally grow out millions of pounds, possess and sell it all, get caught and face only misdemeanors (unless they were doing business with a minor or it is their third or subsequent offense).
" Surely you can just carry on growing illegally" ...... and formerly legal and never legal farmers will continue doing their thing. What has changed this year with the ban in place is high visibility registered farmers that were not concerned with law enforcement now must go back to guerrilla farming or risk losing it all. Guerrilla farms of moderate size can be hidden fairly easily in the forest unless you're growing in the burn area.
It is interesting to observe the changes here in Calaveras in the last 3 years. None have been particularly good. The big fire in 2015, legal registered growing 2016-2017 and the ban on registered growing recently.
The local once weekly newspaper is no longer dominated by marijuana stories. Calaveras supervisors are giving registered growers 2 years to rehabilitate grow sites or face penalties. It seems many farmers are just abandoning sites. Good deals here on land with plenty of water tanks and PVC piping. Spider mites included at no additional cost. It will be interesting to check out google earth when it is updated this year, usually around June. The county utilizes some other aerial mapping service that gives more detail than satellites.
P.S. Life and farming go on despite what the idiots in charge do
It is interesting to observe the changes here in Calaveras in the last 3 years. None have been particularly good. The big fire in 2015, legal registered growing 2016-2017 and the ban on registered growing recently.
The local once weekly newspaper is no longer dominated by marijuana stories. Calaveras supervisors are giving registered growers 2 years to rehabilitate grow sites or face penalties. It seems many farmers are just abandoning sites. Good deals here on land with plenty of water tanks and PVC piping. Spider mites included at no additional cost. It will be interesting to check out google earth when it is updated this year, usually around June. The county utilizes some other aerial mapping service that gives more detail than satellites.
P.S. Life and farming go on despite what the idiots in charge do
Crazy Chester
Well-known member
I'm sorry, Calaveras, my heart goes out to you. Everything the government touches turns to shit for 99% of the people on Earth and gold for everyone else.
MountZionCollec
Active member
I feel we have a 50% chance to continue legally growing this year on 1 of the 3-5 CCA supported lawsuits coming their way.
If that fails it'll come down to what happens with the board of supervisor recall races which I think could begin in June if they are recalled early but may not happen until the fall. Then it'll come down to the other elections and the likely sensible middle of the road cannabis initiative for the people to vote on in the fall which would let us give us next year.
Somewhere between 75-$90k of the needed $250k for lawsuits has been raised.
The CCLDF calaveras cannabis legal defense fund is where the money is going. Archer Norris is the Law firm being used, with the two leading people from calaveras and went to school here until college.
If u want to join the takings claim I believe their is still time. That lawsuit I believe only will help those who are apart of the lawsuit but the others, specially the 13 point CEQA lawsuit will benefit all legal growers.
If that fails it'll come down to what happens with the board of supervisor recall races which I think could begin in June if they are recalled early but may not happen until the fall. Then it'll come down to the other elections and the likely sensible middle of the road cannabis initiative for the people to vote on in the fall which would let us give us next year.
Somewhere between 75-$90k of the needed $250k for lawsuits has been raised.
The CCLDF calaveras cannabis legal defense fund is where the money is going. Archer Norris is the Law firm being used, with the two leading people from calaveras and went to school here until college.
If u want to join the takings claim I believe their is still time. That lawsuit I believe only will help those who are apart of the lawsuit but the others, specially the 13 point CEQA lawsuit will benefit all legal growers.
Crazy Chester
Well-known member
MountZionCollec - sounds promising on the political front and a bit on the legal front - I like the idea of the takings claim.
Calaveras chronicles #44= MAKE CALAVERAS GREAT AGAIN. It is surprising how quickly things revert to life pre- legalized commercial farming.
Registered farmers have until June 10 to finish off crops in progress before permits expire. A few greenhouses are visible running lights but not a lot of them. Calaveras cannabis alliance is gathering a large warchest of cash to hire a big city lawyer to help reinstate commercial farming. The lawsuits will be many and may bury the county in debt if successful. That's the way to integrate into the community, but they ( county) did it to themselves when the door was opened for legal farming. Big weed is hoping to get anti- grow supervisors recalled and the other side is gathering signatures to recall a pro-weed supervisor.
Most noticeable is the lack of trucks on the road. No 20 yard loads of soil, no 2000 gallon water tanks, no water delivery trucks, few new wells being drilled, no lines to get a sandwich at the deli, plenty of parking at the store, fewer smelly people in line at the store. Lots of people made money off the new farmers but overall it is a small percentage of the population that benefitted financially. The local newspaper rarely runs marijuana stories now.
I saw a T.V. show that highlighted Honeydew farms in Humboldt county. I used to think that the 1/2 acre , 300-500 plant grows here were big until I saw that operation. Holy crap, that operation is the epitome of big weed greed. Talk about putting the mom and pop operations out of business. Amazon drones needs to pollen bomb the sinsemilla up there.
So things remain almost shutdown in Calaveras county but growers are not going down without a fight, and remember the golden rule, In the peoples republic of California= Those with the most expensive lawyer wins, regardless of the law.Just ask Kate Steinles parents. That may not be the best example but with all the sanctuary this and that, releasing violent criminals out of prison because of overcrowding( rape a misdemeanor?wtf????) The middle class exodus out of Cali is only increasing. To quote Margaret Thatcher " Liberalism/socialism works good until you run out of money" To California, whatcha gonna do when when you are when you are left with a bunch of rich silicon valley googleheads and the middle class is gone? Shame on Governor moonbeam the fake environmentalist and his twin tunnels and bullet train to hell. He claims the budget has a surplus while shorting retirement funds by tens of billions.They want to balance the budget on the back of pot farmers. That was quite a rant.
P.S. It is time to start my 6( or so )plants.
Registered farmers have until June 10 to finish off crops in progress before permits expire. A few greenhouses are visible running lights but not a lot of them. Calaveras cannabis alliance is gathering a large warchest of cash to hire a big city lawyer to help reinstate commercial farming. The lawsuits will be many and may bury the county in debt if successful. That's the way to integrate into the community, but they ( county) did it to themselves when the door was opened for legal farming. Big weed is hoping to get anti- grow supervisors recalled and the other side is gathering signatures to recall a pro-weed supervisor.
Most noticeable is the lack of trucks on the road. No 20 yard loads of soil, no 2000 gallon water tanks, no water delivery trucks, few new wells being drilled, no lines to get a sandwich at the deli, plenty of parking at the store, fewer smelly people in line at the store. Lots of people made money off the new farmers but overall it is a small percentage of the population that benefitted financially. The local newspaper rarely runs marijuana stories now.
I saw a T.V. show that highlighted Honeydew farms in Humboldt county. I used to think that the 1/2 acre , 300-500 plant grows here were big until I saw that operation. Holy crap, that operation is the epitome of big weed greed. Talk about putting the mom and pop operations out of business. Amazon drones needs to pollen bomb the sinsemilla up there.
So things remain almost shutdown in Calaveras county but growers are not going down without a fight, and remember the golden rule, In the peoples republic of California= Those with the most expensive lawyer wins, regardless of the law.Just ask Kate Steinles parents. That may not be the best example but with all the sanctuary this and that, releasing violent criminals out of prison because of overcrowding( rape a misdemeanor?wtf????) The middle class exodus out of Cali is only increasing. To quote Margaret Thatcher " Liberalism/socialism works good until you run out of money" To California, whatcha gonna do when when you are when you are left with a bunch of rich silicon valley googleheads and the middle class is gone? Shame on Governor moonbeam the fake environmentalist and his twin tunnels and bullet train to hell. He claims the budget has a surplus while shorting retirement funds by tens of billions.They want to balance the budget on the back of pot farmers. That was quite a rant.
P.S. It is time to start my 6( or so )plants.
Crazy Chester
Well-known member
"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Amazon drones needs to pollen bomb the sinsemilla up there."
Hmm, very interesting. Now, that would throw a wrench in the revenue projections they're no doubt peddling to their investors.
More importantly, a credible threat of something like this happening might force them to become allies with the mom and pop growers.
It's like in the movie "Godfather" - the Godfather was eventually forced to give the other criminal families access to his politicians and media contacts simply to keep his own business going. If these big box farms faced a credible threat in the form of forced pollination, it might force them to actually help the little guy get started in the business. Better to help some competitors than to be put out of business completely.
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Hmm, very interesting. Now, that would throw a wrench in the revenue projections they're no doubt peddling to their investors.
More importantly, a credible threat of something like this happening might force them to become allies with the mom and pop growers.
It's like in the movie "Godfather" - the Godfather was eventually forced to give the other criminal families access to his politicians and media contacts simply to keep his own business going. If these big box farms faced a credible threat in the form of forced pollination, it might force them to actually help the little guy get started in the business. Better to help some competitors than to be put out of business completely.
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Something is going on out there, Last week I observed a medium sized olive green military looking helicopter circling over high-density registered grow areas. Yesterday a chopper that looked the same was making laps over farms across the street, left side door wide open, circling counterclockwise so they looked straight down on the grow sites.Local pot helicopters in the past tend to be smaller and not olive green. Looks like feds. are getting involved. Calaveras county, being in the news often may be getting more attention
hate those nosey sum-bitches..........back in early 80's a Viet vet was nuttin' up in Santa Cruz Mtn's and shot at copter that was hunting gardens making for a quick landing......kept them at bay for a bit..........ptsd the reason....he was gardening....
Im sure a few male hemp plant placed on the right hill could work wonders.
Lawsuits, lawsuits, lawsuits. Now that the ban is in place the lawyers are quite busy as expected. Any technicality or miswording or meeting is scrutinized to find a way to attack opponents of marijuana farmers. Too bad big weed shut down the opportunity for everyone to vote on the matter. Last year the main topic of conversation /gossip at the store was big weed, This year that conversation has gone underground, along with the farmers
Securityfirst
Active member
Don't be jealous
Don't be jealous
Somebody here is unsucessful...needs a tampon change and is Jealous/Envious. Hey bozo whether you like it or not success does happen to growers who work hard and take chances.
Don't be jealous
Yeah, that's about right.
If they're some money-grubbing asshole who just wants to fuck over other people out of greed (as if their six figure income just isn't making ends meet), then they're the scum of the earth, and i hope nothing but karma's worst on pieces of shit like that. I find few things as despicable as people who turn cannabis cultivation into something just as greed-fueled, corrupt, ruthless, inhuman, morally bankrupt, and downright fucking disgusting as every other business out there that people started growing pot to avoid.
Of course, if the plants to be pollinated belong to some greedy fat cat with hundreds of plants paying people to do the gardening and he doesn't do a damn thing himself, doesn't care about cannabis, and is only in it to be some mogul then fuck that guy -- let the pollen do nature's work
Somebody here is unsucessful...needs a tampon change and is Jealous/Envious. Hey bozo whether you like it or not success does happen to growers who work hard and take chances.
"whether you like it or not success does happen to growers who work hard and take chances"...hmmm I guess that depends on your definition of success. those of us hard working farmers in calaveras county, that spent years of time and loads of money to get permitted to do things by the book and then got put out of business by a vote from 5 people must be jealous/envious that while we took the chance to do things right we got shafted.
I was in the local garden supply store the other day and spotted a poster advertising a 4-20 celebration party/ concert. It sounds like a rally the troops fundraiser for banned farmers with a reggae band and weed related stuff. I cracked up when I saw the name of the event-
" Ain't that a bitch", perfect sentimentality for banned growers.
Something big went down the other day that has not made the news yet. A big cop convoy with S.W.A.T looking armored truck heading up R.R. flat road.
Lots of grow house busts in the last year are mostly linked to the big ring of chinese operations in the sacramento central valley region.
" Ain't that a bitch", perfect sentimentality for banned growers.
Something big went down the other day that has not made the news yet. A big cop convoy with S.W.A.T looking armored truck heading up R.R. flat road.
Lots of grow house busts in the last year are mostly linked to the big ring of chinese operations in the sacramento central valley region.
cryptop
Active member
Somebody here is unsucessful...needs a tampon change and is Jealous/Envious. Hey bozo whether you like it or not success does happen to growers who work hard and take chances.
Taking chances implies there is a risk. Risk means there is a probability you will fail. There is no need to have spite towards those who have achieved success, but there is also no need to pretend like luck does not factor into cannabis industry success, and those who are not successful are just lazy or not willing to take risks.
Medfinder
Chemon 91
yup.
The United States does not place any restrictions on non-US citizens buying and owning real estate in the United States even if you never visited the United States. You won't need a green card to buy a house in the USA, but you will need an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN). Depending on your nationality, you may also need a valid foreign passport, visa and two or more current photo identifications, such as a driver's license.
According to VISIT-USA Act, foreign nationals can buy property in USA worth of minimum Half a Million Dollar ($500,000) and get 3 years visa to stay in the United States. This visa does not provide work permit and one must stay in this residence at least for six months (not necessarily consecutive) in a year.
HOW MANY PRINTING PRESSES DOES THE CHINESE YAUN HAVE IN CHINA? MORE THAN 7 LIKE THE USA?
