Butane honey oil for dummies

[Ryu]

Cheers Not Guilty, I wasn't considering the purge as part of the decarb process.
Any ideas why the cannabrex kit doesn't omit this stage?
If it can't harm, maybe it would finish the decarb job if not done completely?

 

[NotGuilty]

I'm have never used cannabrex, perhaps to assist in an even mix as well as ensure full decarb. has occurred. Gray Wolf is very knowledgeable regarding cannabrex, I recommend find his thread.... plus we are getting off topic.

 

[Ryu]

No problem NG, thanks for your input

 

[Gregory Hines]

Hello Everyone, I'm a new poster but a long time lurker and begining maker of BHO. I love the hard oil. I've been following this thread for awhile and making my own for a few months.

I see everyone has a different method of purging and little tricks too.

Dry bud, heating pad, leaving it out, coffee warmer, stirring, not stirring, all produce different effects.

HMK seems to get the rock hard oil every time. Dude, is it more the bud or the method ? Any help producing the candy type is appreciated.

The help I have gotten already from this forum without asking has been amazing. Thanks you everyone !

Sir Gregory

Here are some pics of OG Oil Made from whole buds

 

[Moldy Dreads]

Dude, is it more the bud or the method ?

Yes, frosty bud and less leaf matter as well as letting it dry on the dish over a long period of time (24 hours +) then reheat gently on top of warm sink water or some warm surface and scrape..you nailed it..

yours looks great btw

 

[kushkommander]

Yes, frosty bud and less leaf matter as well as letting it dry on the dish over a long period of time (24 hours +) then reheat gently on top of warm sink water or some warm surface and scrape..you nailed it..

yours looks great btw

I find when I use whole nugs of high quality it turns to wax sometimes but other times it is clear hardcandy type, I do usually leave the wax type bho to sit out for a week after purge the other rock hard candy type is usually made by long heat purge and keeping it the freezer.

I do think the stain and size of the gland heads make a difference.

 

[Gregory Hines]

Thanks for the fast reply and comments on my BHO ! It's amazing smoke too. Super smooth and amazing taste. Just would like to get it a bit harder. That was hard enough to touch and hold, but still a little tacky.

I assume its the moisture we are trying to get rid of inorder to make it harder ?

Moldy Dreads, when you say let it dry on the dish for 24+ hours is that with or without the heating pad on ?

And when you say reheating it, is that because it has hardened on the plate too much to scrape ?

Sorry for the flurry of questions, but making this is too much fun and amazing !

 

[Billy Burroughs]

thanx alot i had harvested and also had a move going on at the same time and my buds started to show signs of mold such as the dusty white spots never seen any hairs growing but i seen the powder looking stuff got it out of the jars immediatelly and dried it out on some cardboard its been there drying for 3 or 4 days and with the low humidity here in the desert its bone dry and also all buds i got about a pound of buds like this what kinda bho yield can i expect the strain was a tga genetics 3D really funky smelling lots of trichromes i just hope the mold didnt ruin all that imma patient and im stuck smoking what i grow so i gotta do whatever i gotta do to get the best results someone told me about water curing but i cant seem to find a thread on it

 

[kushkommander]

let it dry on the dish for 24+ hours with the heating pad on

And when you say reheating it, is that because it has hardened on the plate too much to scrape ?

Sorry for the flurry of questions, but making this is too much fun and amazing !

you got it correct! once its hardened to candy like you need to reheat it to easily scrape, oh it is almost too much fun

 

[kushkommander]

thanx alot i had harvested and also had a move going on at the same time and my buds started to show signs of mold such as the dusty white spots never seen any hairs growing but i seen the powder looking stuff got it out of the jars immediatelly and dried it out on some cardboard its been there drying for 3 or 4 days and with the low humidity here in the desert its bone dry and also all buds i got about a pound of buds like this what kinda bho yield can i expect the strain was a tga genetics 3D really funky smelling lots of trichromes i just hope the mold didnt ruin all that imma patient and im stuck smoking what i grow so i gotta do whatever i gotta do to get the best results someone told me about water curing but i cant seem to find a thread on it

I would suggest trying some bho and trying some qwiso....if its good quality expect 10% yeild if your real lucky 15%-20%

 

[Moldy Dreads]

Moldy Dreads, when you say let it dry on the dish for 24+ hours is that with or without the heating pad on ?

And when you say reheating it, is that because it has hardened on the plate too much to scrape ?

I purge it 3 or 4 times for 30 minutes each time floating on a warm tapwater sink.
Then I let it sit overnight with NO heat.
By the morning it's like shards of glass, reheat on warm water floating in sink again to rewarm so you can scrape easier,..

Freezing oil will make it hard, but if it's not hard candy consistency to begin with it will melt agian, like freezing herbs, I do not freeze my oil, I can achieve rock candy with room temps.

find when I use whole nugs of high quality it turns to wax sometimes but other times it is clear hardcandy type

Stirring the oil before it dries will make it waxy, certain types of butane also affect consistency, storing oil in plastic containers ruins consistency alot, use only glass...and oil does cure over time, I prefer waxy oil than runny oil, but I have found a method that gives me rock candy oil most the time....

 

[Gregory Hines]

I purge it 3 or 4 times for 30 minutes each time floating on a warm tapwater sink.
Then I let it sit overnight with NO heat.
By the morning it's like shards of glass, reheat on warm water floating in sink again to rewarm so you can scrape easier,..

I prefer waxy oil than runny oil, but I have found a method that gives me rock candy oil most the time....

Thanks for the reply MD, I am going to try the 3-4 times water purge and overnight with no heating pad with one of my next batches. I did something similar last time but had the heating pad in the middle of all that.

Does anyone use just the heating pad after water purge to get rock hard oil faster than overnight or multiple days ? Or other combo of such that would allow for a hard cure without the time involved ?

A lot of times I am making stuff for other people and they want to take their portion of it with them asap. They usually leave with it semi stable, waxy or budder form.

I guess I could just get extra dishes and give after the water purge have them take the whole plate. But is there a better way to get rock hard oil within an hour or two ?

Thanks again everyone for all the info. I know this is an old topic and a lot of questions have been answered already, so I appreciate the help you are giving.

Sir Gregory

Tap dancin with my bho....

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

if you do large batches its runnier in less time. smaller batches, like 3 grams on a plate or so, yield rock hard oil in like 15-30 mins usually or so.

 

[Gregory Hines]

My next run is going to be 2oz of frosty trim. Mostly I have been using whole buds up until now. I ran some trim early in my experimentation from a home grow and got mostly waxy oil. I also stirred it on the pyrex and the second time on a coffee warmer. I know now that is not how to get the candy.

Is it possible to get rock hard candy oil from the sugar leaves of the same strain ? Or does the whole bud make more of a difference than the method. I know the quality and yield will be less with the trim, but does that also effect the ablity to harden ?

I'll post pics of the run tomorrow when i do it. I wanted to see if I could get any feedback from you guys before I put 2oz to oil.

HMK, when i ran a bunch of trim last time i was getting about 3g an ounce, so best just to do the hot water purge to get it candy in short time ?

One last question, I dont know if its been answered before, I read the whole thread but dont remember. A lot of us use the okief so we are packing the same amount of material in each tube give or take, but lets say you have to run an ounce of whole bud, thats 4 runs in that tube. Do you purge each run before extracting the next tube, or just keep extracting them into the same dish purging the whole time ? Thats how I have been doing it.

Thanks again everyone for all the help. I wish I we were all a bit closer geographically to share a vape !

 

[Ryu]

Yo Greg, many of these oil dudes do a few runs into the same pyrex before fully purging.

Ain't heard any reason why not to yet.

 

[Gregory Hines]

Well, here is the latest pics from the run.

2oz sugar trim I got about 6 grams total. I dont know if thats good or bad, but its good stuff !!! Check out the pics.

Took almost 2 hours start to finish to run it all and get rock hard oil.

Thanks again for all the help guys !!!

 

[kushkommander]

Well, here is the latest pics from the run.

2oz sugar trim I got about 6 grams total. I dont know if thats good or bad, but its good stuff !!! Check out the pics.

Took almost 2 hours start to finish to run it all and get rock hard oil.

Thanks again for all the help guys !!!

looks very nice amber colors, your doing a great job

 

[photi]

great thread. i read through most of it, but i didn't notice anyone saying how long the shelf life is for honey oil. elsewhere on the net, some publication was saying the THC completely breaks down after a year, giving it a shelf life of a couple of months before noticeable loss in potency.

do any of you who are in the know find this to be the case? does freezing change things? how about keeping it in a dark and cool place?

 

[Gregory Hines]

Yo Greg, many of these oil dudes do a few runs into the same pyrex before fully purging.

Ain't heard any reason why not to yet.

Now I am sure everyone does it different, but to get the hard oil is it better to run all into the same dish then purge it all at one time, or constantly keep the dish in water so it purges as each run is made ?

Will be doing another run today so I will post more pics later too.
Again thanks everyone for all the help !

 

[Billy Burroughs]

nice had a crop mold a tiny bit on me was moving and taking down a harvest at the same time just didnt work out and the bud had to go into something so jars it was i caught mold way before hairs dormed anywhere but it had the lil dots of the powdery stuff on the ends of the stems is how i first noticed it but it's looking like this could save my harvest for myself anyways thank alot i've done whis before with a pvc pipe and some fittings but i cant remeber what we used to put between the bud and the final holes drilled through the end cap hmm i wonder if my brothers gonna know i cant afford to go out and buy some extraction thingie when i already know how easu this is and how dangerous as well seen a few couple idiots lean down with a smoke in there hand notta good idea but theres gotta be something i can do to save this weed somewhat theres still a good portion of it thats still good smelling kick ass high but then every now n again u wind up getting one that was in the mold and man does it taste like shit