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Bush Sidesteps Congress and Appoints The Ambassador He Wants Anyway

Nikijad4210

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The article's a few days old, but it deserves to be pulled out from under the rug anyway.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/04/bush.ambassador.ap/index.html

Swift Boat donor's appointment sidesteps Congress
POSTED: 6:28 p.m. EDT, April 4, 2007

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush named Republican fundraiser Sam Fox as U.S. ambassador to Belgium on Wednesday, using a maneuver that allowed him to bypass Congress where Democrats had derailed Fox's nomination.

Democrats had denounced Fox for his 2004 donation to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. The group's TV ads, which claimed that Sen. John Kerry exaggerated his military record in Vietnam, were viewed as a major factor in the Massachusetts Democrat's losing the election.

Recognizing Fox did not have the votes to obtain Senate confirmation, Bush withdrew the nomination last month. On Wednesday, with Congress out of town for a spring break, the president used his power to make recess appointments to put Fox in the job without Senate confirmation.

This means Fox can remain ambassador until the end of the next session of Congress, effectively through the end of the Bush presidency.

:mad:

Any thoughts?
 

HCSmyth

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The average (general majority) Joe in the street that is disgusted with Bush’s judgment on Iraq cares about the US GI’s dying over there. Probably does not care about whom the Ambassador of Belgium is or what he does.

The clan of hardcore Bush haters is not going to get riled up over an appointment of the ambassador to Belgium either. When they can use the death of Iraqi babies, his role of flying planes into and blowing up the towers with C4 or that his grandfather paid the Nazi’s to gas the Jews. Or any other crazy thing or connection they can associate him with.

But seriously, the executive abuse of the appointment of the Ambassador of Belgium without senate confirmation is wrong. But does it does not matter that much in the grand scheme of things in my opinion. And for someone that does not have to worry about re-election it really does not matter.

What it shows is how the legislative and executive branches do not respect each other. I believe this may have something to do with Pelosi’s trip to Syria as I believe Bush may be being vindictive here. But I also believe Pelosi’s trip to Syria was the wrong thing to do and a largely political motivated one for her.
 

bergerbuddy

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HCSmyth said:
The average (general majority) Joe in the street that is disgusted with Bush’s judgment on Iraq cares about the US GI’s dying over there. Probably does not care about whom the Ambassador of Belgium is or what he does.

The clan of hardcore Bush haters is not going to get riled up over an appointment of the ambassador to Belgium either. When they can use the death of Iraqi babies, his role of flying planes into and blowing up the towers with C4 or that his grandfather paid the Nazi’s to gas the Jews. Or any other crazy thing or connection they can associate him with.

But seriously, the executive abuse of the appointment of the Ambassador of Belgium without senate confirmation is wrong. But does it does not matter that much in the grand scheme of things in my opinion. And for someone that does not have to worry about re-election it really does not matter.

What it shows is how the legislative and executive branches do not respect each other. I believe this may have something to do with Pelosi’s trip to Syria as I believe Bush may be being vindictive here. But I also believe Pelosi’s trip to Syria was the wrong thing to do and a largely political motivated one for her.


Well I can't speak to alot of the stuff you alleged is alleged about the Bush Regime... I can say this...
The patriot act allows for the suspension of national elections... UNTIL we have an election.. and the NEW prez is sworn in... I won't ASSUME we will HAVE a NEW PRESIDENT..

This fukers actions of giving the finger to the law, the congress, and basically ANYONE HE WANTS.... has scared the SHIT out of me... and YEAH it does bother me he DID IT AGAIN... it just makes me think.. WILL HE BE GONE... and then of course... WILL THE NEXT ONE DO THE SAME THING??

Yeah will they?? I haven't seen a government agency GIVE BACK power... I don't expect to see the president do it either...

BUSH ... AT THE LEAST... has set a FUCKED precedent for ANY future DICK HEAD that gets elected president..

Peace
 

HCSmyth

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bergerbuddy said:
Well I can't speak to alot of the stuff you alleged is alleged about the Bush Regime... I can say this...
The patriot act allows for the suspension of national elections... UNTIL we have an election.. and the NEW prez is sworn in... I won't ASSUME we will HAVE a NEW PRESIDENT..

This fukers actions of giving the finger to the law, the congress, and basically ANYONE HE WANTS.... has scared the SHIT out of me... and YEAH it does bother me he DID IT AGAIN... it just makes me think.. WILL HE BE GONE... and then of course... WILL THE NEXT ONE DO THE SAME THING??

Yeah will they?? I haven't seen a government agency GIVE BACK power... I don't expect to see the president do it either...

BUSH ... AT THE LEAST... has set a FUCKED precedent for ANY future DICK HEAD that gets elected president..

Peace

Oh come on, we will have a new president. Perhaps Bush is a dirty player (perhaps Pelosi is too) but he is not bigger than the game itself. He will be done when his term is up and someone will replace him and his administration. Hopefully with someone with better judgment and someone that demands respect from everyone.
 
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HCSmyth said:
Oh come on, we will have a new president. Perhaps Bush is a dirty player (perhaps Pelosi is too) but he is not bigger than the game itself. He will be done when his term is up and someone will replace him and his administration. Hopefully with someone with better judgment and someone that demands respect from everyone.

It doesn't matter if it's Bush or not. Whoever comes next will be a patsy just the same.

Bush is far more than a dirty player. He's a war criminal, at BEST.
 

bergerbuddy

Canna Coco grower
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Oh yes BUSH is "bigger than the game".... Ask yourself this... HONESTLY...


In 1998 WHO WAS George Bush J.R.... A newly elected gov of texas... one of the weakest govenorships in the nation... meaning he didn't have to do much less know much... THIS WAS HIS FIRST AND ONLY PUBLIC JOB prior to prez... not to mention PRIVATE SECTOR.. the guy couldn't keep a biz open.. if not for SWEETHEART deals on ball teams and DRY oil wells... cause of the political power of the BUSH dynasty.. Remember the Kennedys??? THE BUSH'S ARE EVEN BIGGER.. power wise!!''

And You will see.... JEB will TRY to be prez some day too..

HOW DO U THINK HE BECAME PRESIDENT??

At least Clinton HAD BEEN gov.. for like 3 terms... THE YOUNGEST GOV.. in AR History... lost election then got RE-Elected... He was Atty General and then gov for like 5 terms.. ie. 20 yrs of service to public .....

Do u think BUSH became president because he had done ANYTHING in office that was supposedly impressive??

I say he was PREZ... Cause His daddy was... and vice prez... and CIA Direc.. etc.. then Grampa Bush was Senator..
ALSO.. didn't the names of the BUSH II admin sound like the names of BUSH I and even Raygun...

Bet ur ass that BUSH is bigger than the game....
Not to mention the only PREZ IN HISTORY to be elected by 5 votes...

Peace
 
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GOT_BUD?

Weed is a gateway to gardening
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HCSmyth said:
The average (general majority) Joe in the street that is disgusted with Bush’s judgment on Iraq cares about the US GI’s dying over there. Probably does not care about whom the Ambassador of Belgium is or what he does.

The clan of hardcore Bush haters is not going to get riled up over an appointment of the ambassador to Belgium either. When they can use the death of Iraqi babies, his role of flying planes into and blowing up the towers with C4 or that his grandfather paid the Nazi’s to gas the Jews. Or any other crazy thing or connection they can associate him with.

But seriously, the executive abuse of the appointment of the Ambassador of Belgium without senate confirmation is wrong. But does it does not matter that much in the grand scheme of things in my opinion. And for someone that does not have to worry about re-election it really does not matter.

What it shows is how the legislative and executive branches do not respect each other. I believe this may have something to do with Pelosi’s trip to Syria as I believe Bush may be being vindictive here. But I also believe Pelosi’s trip to Syria was the wrong thing to do and a largely political motivated one for her.
Not to mention that every president that has ever been uses these recess appointments. It's nothing new. What is new is the fact that this is one of the first times that a president has done it over a one week recess. (You have to hand it to the little monkey from Texas. He did a great end around congress to get his crony into a cushy job.)

The original reason for being able to do this is so that presidents could fill important roles in gov't (when the house and senate were in long recesses) in an emergency. But because Bushco is under a microscope, people are trying like hell to find any little thing to bitch slap him for.

Of all the evil things this administration has done, this is a nothing as far as I am concerned.
 

Pops

Resident pissy old man
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What is really scary are the presidential orders signed, not only by Bush, but by Clinton as well. They effectively turn the running of the country over to the dept. of homeland security in the event of a disaster or Martial law. They can suspend constitutional rights and possibly elections as well.

With most Presidents, I wouldn't be too worried, but I am with Bush.
 
G

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Stop it Nikijad!! hehehe, you already got me fired up twice with the news now. I know she posts this stuff just to see how fired up I'll get.

I'll be nice, step off meh soapbox, and not make any comments about this regime and this country's serious need to reboot the Constitution.
 

bergerbuddy

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Veteran
I can't go along with... HE IS KILLER.. least he didn't kill... and until he does.. I aint gonna bitch.. :)

But I TOTALLY understand you dude.... I just think that this CONTINUES his DEFIANCE to the GOV.. and the PEOPLE... we voted... he said... fuck you.. "I AM THE DECIDER"... and NOTHING HAS CHANGED... and yet everyone ASSUMES he or his power base will just GIVE UP the prez... hmmm.... optimism is good ... I guess...

Bush did this SAME THING with BOLTON to the U.N.. then when congress FINALLY could do something about it... BOLTON resigns or whatever.... this is B.S.. and arrogance..

BUSH RUNS THIS COUNTRY FOR US.. NOT FOR HIM. OR HIS FRIENDS..
I think McCain.. is his designate anyways.. so if HE gets in then... oh well..
 
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Damn,a left leaning convention lol.Though I smoke a great deal fortunately my memory from 6 years ago is as sharp as today,and blaming bush for everything is pretty simple huh?When things dont go according to plan,it's a lot easier to find fault than it is to try and make a difference.If I thought the left had the countries interest at heart instead of pure hatred for the administration,though I disagree with them,I'd at least respect them.I"m tired of Hillary saying bringing our troops home without stabilizing Iraq is the will of the American people,not the americans I talk to.The ones I talk to understand we are fighting the first big battle of a very long war against a 7th century cult,its going to last decades for sure.When islamists deliberatly have 8 or 10 kids for the sole reason of teaching them jihad from a young age,we're in for a long long war.EDIT O yea,and bush is still boss correct?I guess he should be able to appoint who he wants to like any other Pres. right?He just did it with style lol
 
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I don't blame Bush.....I blame them ALL. Congress can stop his actions at any time, but they don't. Aren't they suppose to keep him in check and aren't we suppose to keep them in all check? Doesn't happen.

I see it happen even in local government. A new law goes to public vote. The law is unanimously voted down and they pass it anyways. Public gets outraged, local government tells them too bad and that's it. It goes no further as everyone sings, "well, you can't fight city hall." No? then burn it down. Embrace the spirit of Bastille Day with the French. What safegaurds did Thomas Jefferson give in such a situation?

But, I digress, we're really nothing more then a modern form of serfs serving the nobility. The titles have changed, but the concept is the same - no matter the flag or alleged pieces of papers that claim otherwise.
 
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Let's not get confused. It's not just about Bush. It's about all of his friends and cronies as well as just about every senior level government official you can think of. Even when Bush is gone, the next regime will still be under the SAME control, regardless if it's "left or right".

Those labels are designed to do nothing more than keep the american people divided. Divide and conquer. Works every time.

If we would have had John Kerry as president (the one that won the election) almost none of the things that are happening today would be different.

Bush is a puppet....follow his strings.
 
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Stoned2Death said:
Those labels are designed to do nothing more than keep the american people divided. Divide and conquer. Works every time.

You got that right my friend.
 

HCSmyth

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Stoned2Death said:
If we would have had John Kerry as president (the one that won the election) almost none of the things that are happening today would be different.

No, you are referring to Gore in 2000 I believe, Bush won both the popular and electoral college vote against Kerry.
 
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Only if you're purposely trying to distract from the topic at hand......busted again.
 

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