Burglary suspect dies after being taped to tree by 68yr old homeowner

[Corvette Doc]

I assume you are using hyperbole to make a point but this sounds like fear mongering– which really bugs me.

I'd bet most petty larceny is committed by desperate drug addicts.

You don't get rich breaking into random homes & stealing outdated electronics or a couple pairs of gold plated earrings. Most times you don't know what you're going to find inside. Televisions and computers are cumbersome and obvious plus you have to find a buyer afterwards and sell them for a fraction of what they are worth. There is also a good chance the homeowner is armed.

Not defending thieves, just being realistic.

No it isn't exageration. The last time a gang banger came flying out of a car at an intersection to try to kick out my windows(they wanted to steal my Vette)...They were in a BMW and dressed JUST as i said. I wait for them to show in my yard as a spider awaits it's next jump. It is hard to live under that stress and not want to kill them all...even the cops that refuse to do anything but show up hours late.

This is how po'ed Pueblo citizens are getting...http://www.koaa.com/story/32742385/frustrated-pueblo-victim-recovers-his-own-stolen-car

And you need to understand the PPD is refusing to take complaints on ID theft or similar felonies because they say they are civil...No just too lazy of a pig. So the punks target phones and computers to build a network...not resell them.
There were 3-4 gangs running home invasions around here and that was their target. The cops did nothing untill one decided to start shooting. If they moved earlier that could have been stopped. The cops here are as equally guilty as the gangs...That is why i now call them the Blue Mafia. But 42 officers were at one scene??? BS!
Oh yeah, there was a stolen car partly stripped at the same intersection the day before...Because the gangs know the cops are too lazy to show. How many officers were at a drive by then?

Last add-on. I found this story with-in minutes of your post (a couple hours till i saw it). How many do you think i could find for every day of the last 2-3 years??? Take channels 5, 11, and 13 for just Pueblo, add in the Pueblo Chieftain to round it out right. The constant barrage of similar stories just can't be ignored any longer. When they set up the internet scams that appear to be from other countries they make 6 figures a year... Yea, kill them and let us keep what we earned.

 

[weedaholic721]

It's anger, which comes from fear and sadness, that motivate this revenge mentality. If you learn to not be so upset about stuff, then when someone takes it from you, it's not so bad. The idea of hurting anyone else over simple materialistic things is beyond extreme.

As Ron Smooth stated, there is quite a bit of hyperbole in this thread. Very few criminals make 6 figures a year, crime really doesn't pay for long periods of time. It's 2016, crime is dropping overall.

It seems to me, there are more people are looking for an excuse to harm and discriminate against others then there are criminals and lowlife to stereotype.

 

[944s2]

It's anger, which comes from fear and sadness, that motivate this revenge mentality. If you learn to not be so upset about stuff, then when someone takes it from you, it's not so bad. The idea of hurting anyone else over simple materialistic things is beyond extreme.

As Ron Smooth stated, there is quite a bit of hyperbole in this thread. Very few criminals make 6 figures a year, crime really doesn't pay for long periods of time. It's 2016, crime is dropping overall.

It seems to me, there are more people are looking for an excuse to harm and discriminate against others then there are criminals and lowlife to stereotype.

Oh weedaholic!,,,,with the greatest respect,,,,
i know pros who think that its acceptable to break into houses/apartments in Mayfair,,Park lane,, etc but would consider it out of order to rob locally!,,,,,
if peeps "interfere" whilst there robbing them then they will do whatever needs to be done to make sure they make there exit "clean",,,,,,
yes these crimes are down by a lot of peeps out of desperation but theres a shitload who are very comfortable and do this cos they enjoy it and its there way of life and chosen career,,,,
i am just saying "how it is in my part of the world",,,,,,,s2

 

[Corvette Doc]

You know what??? RonSmooth, weedaholic721. I truly envy the fact that you are so insulated to enjoy that point of view...i dearly miss those days.
I hope for both of you that this crap doesn't spill over into your neck of the woods. But the only way to keep you safe and and happy is if some-one else eliminates the threat Think long and hard about what you will do when a guy looking to expand his ring notices there isn't anything going down in your area.
He will find an apartment or house to rent. Start throwing free parties to bring in the desperate you talk about. He will talk them into doing unreal things with promises of riches. They will be bleeding your entire community dry of ever last cent it can get. The guy will make 6 figures, some actually hit 7 and get celebrated for it. There has to a point where you stop it. The only way...Kill the ones that look like they have money...What does it matter? If they have so much why steal, harass, and torture an entire community? They deserve the cruelest. slowest death that can be imagined, because that is what they bring into the areas they target.
You 2 are REAL LUCKY! Maybe think about what COULD happen based on what i can promise you is actually happening here.
Yeah, my pissed off point of view is from seeing this in my own home town...It kills something in you and then you decide it is worth killing to get that happy time back again...Not because you want to...but because there are no more options when the pigs even quit.
After a while it really isn't about the stuff...It is being forced to live in an area where that is ALL around you untill you say enough is enough, I want MY life back to normal. Then you realize that the only way is to kill them. The cops don't want to be bothered arresting them so maybe it is civic duty and obligation to try to correct the problem your self?

 

[weedaholic721]

It's easy to say someone has been insulated from violence because they have less of an urge to seek revenge or hurt others that have hurt them. That is far from the case, as I've said before, I have been robbed, I've have friends and family shot. It's not a safe world out there, but when do two wrongs make a right.

You keep your head down, avoid those people and situations, and keep it moving. I'm from a very bad place on the East coast and just moved not too far from Pueblo. I could live my life in fear and anger ready to hurt anyone who hurts me, or I can relax, live and let live, and go on with my life.

Being so on edge is how innocent people get hurt, then starts the revenge cycle all over with a new person.

This thread is definately an eyeopener.

 

[944s2]

It's easy to say someone has been insulated from violence because they have less of an urge to seek revenge or hurt others that have hurt them. That is far from the case, as I've said before, I have been robbed, I've have friends and family shot. It's not a safe world out there, but when do two wrongs make a right.

You keep your head down, avoid those people and situations, and keep it moving. I'm from a very bad place on the East coast and just moved not too far from Pueblo. I could live my life in fear and anger ready to hurt anyone who hurts me, or I can relax, live and let live, and go on with my life.

Being so on edge is how innocent people get hurt, then starts the revenge cycle all over with a new person.

This thread is definately an eyeopener.

weedaholic ! i am really trying to see where your coming from,,
OK,,when do two wrongs make a right?,,,,,
a scenario= peadophile rapes and kills my child!,,
i kill peadophile= 2 wrongs do make a right! ,,thats if you consider a nonce killing wrong? i dont but i hope you get my point,,

extreme circumstances i know and i could go on when percieved "wrongs" are actually very right,,,,,s2

 

[weedaholic721]

That's not the same thing as someone stealing your stuff. I said previously ofcourse you protect your self and your family.

When it's someone who took or is trying to take some stuff from you, Restraint is warranted.

Also, most who do sucessfully stop these instances are rare, your most likely gonna end up hurt or dead yourself. People say theyre are going to do alot until faced with a gun in their face. You have no clue how you will react unless in these situations. You best bet, stated by anyone whose been robbed, is to let them take what they want, be polite, and then move on.

 

[Corvette Doc]

My Vette is still tucked away in my garage. It has a couple of scratches on the Lf. window. The punks were still trying to get their guns out of their pockets from the look of it as i left them in a nice cloud of tire smoke.
This happened at 29th and Elizabeth about 5 weeks ago.
I just wish one of them had stepped in front of me...
I called the cops they said they would send some-one out to take a statement and look at the car...i am still waiting...or not. I would have to admit i ran a red light and am certain that would be the only thing they would write up.
Go ahead and be a sheep if you like. But don't whine when doing nothing gets your head beat in like a friend of mine not a block from my house. Home invasion and they beat him with the gun. This was about 4 months ago.
The cops got mad at him and started threatening him with arrest and crap because he was complaining about waiting 4 hours for them to show...they didn't even act like they cared about the gang doing the invasion at all. Nor about the fact that he had to wait that long while bleeding all over.
It was about a week later when that gang starting shooting and killing people and all of a sudden the pigs come begging for witnesses. Why, they didn't care when he was the victim...he never saw the murder...now they want to do something about it. That is a GIANT part of why Pueblo is about to snap...When they do i will be screaming the truth at the network news but you will probably never hear one word on air or printed. And if that continues the pain will continue to rise here untill???

So, yeah you are right. Most of this is from fear and anger. It comes from being forced to live with fear (and maybe some anger from that) every single day...I have had dreams about my car alarm going off because my sub conscience has been skewed so far out of wack...the alarm has to be reset every couple of days to keep the gps synced...Uhm i shouldn't tell all.
I had this forced onto me by a few gang-banggers taking over my side of town...Well i am getting very close to narrowing down exactly who the top few are...What should i do when i get it confirmed? Do you really think the cops will do anything with it??? I might get killed giving it to the cops because how they are acting looks like they are being paid by the gangs to do it their way...I wonder a lot if that isn't the real truth i may find. So i wait till one or the other enters my yard...Those few seconds??? It depends on what i see, and i see nothing good right now.

 

[Corvette Doc]

In the end...do you really want to know why crime stats are down? I bet you don't.
It is because the worthless pigglets refuse to take complaints. They play this waiting game so most people never even have a chance to get their reports in. If you think crime is down...You is VERY STUPID!
It has become harder than hell to report thanks to the blue mafia. They have national conventions to teach each other this crap. Welcome to a true national syndicated crime ring called our public police.

And they collect cash for playing that game...I want them just as dead as the punks.

You told me to just keep my head down...Uhm, did you think about the site you posted that on??? My growing for my cancer makes me a serious target...I am not allowed one moment to relax because of the gangs and the pigs targeting me to try to squeeze money out of. I don't have money. I am trying to sell the Vette because i am in a bad situation. All of this BS just makes the situation beyond belief.

 

[weedaholic721]

Took the time to read some more reports about the gang violence in Peublo. I agree that its crazy and I can tell things are escalating. Was there a time where gangs didn't have that much influence?

I can understand where your coming from but Im still of the opinion that retaliation won't lead anywhere good.

As I said, I come from an area where this kind of violence has been around since the late 60s. I didn't leave because of that, but for legal freedom which CO provides.

I would recommend some things that help without turning to violence. A complete security camera system with backup system and sound will make sure any crime against your property is actually investigated. Dash cams can be purchased for vehicles as well as Low-Jack is very helpful in protecting vehicles. Strong doors and bars on the window will help as a deterant.

The best thing you can do is light. First make sure your entire property is lit very well. Then continue the process by working within your neighborhood to get neighbors to the same, then push the city to do the same. Worked extremely well where I am from, it pushes crime to other less lit areas.

I'll add that this type of violence and intimidation in the US is in a lot of places and makes life very hard for many. I've always done what I can to adapt and live "life on life's terms" as they say in certain recovery groups. There's not much you can do to change the actions of others (you may stop 1 or 2 but there's always others and you just made them more angry/dangerous). From my experiences, the only areas that break out of this type of violence, are areas where the shadyness/roughness is accentuated, then you have more affluent people move in(gentrification) but all this does is push the good in the community out with the bad. Like I said previously, it's a hard world our there but Restraint is needed and hurting other leads nowhere but more pain for yourself. At least in my experience, your mileage may vary.

 

[Corvette Doc]

From my experiences, the only areas that break out of this type of violence, are areas where the shadyness/roughness is accentuated, then you have more affluent people move in(gentrification) but all this does is push the good in the community out with the bad.

I have really been trying to understand what you are saying here, but i think maybe you might have said it wrong??? It makes no sense. There are no affluents that are going to move into an area that is spinning out of control. So i just can't understand what you meant.

Was there a time where gangs didn't have that much influence?

Yes and this was actually a nice place to live then...We have had some gang stuff pop up and get beaten down over the years, since about the early 90s. The cops would normally nail the heads pretty fast as the community pointed them out.
Now they just don't even bother to show up for anything that doesn't include them feeding them selves into ever more bloated pigs(yeah, this one is rhetoric, but not too far from being completely true). The last 8-10 years have seen this building up...
Lowjack is low grade. The lights are set were i can w/o hurting my plants. I have a video system but prefer silence so i have a chance to nail the bad guy before he knows he has been found. And there is a lot more also...I even raise black-widows in my plants intentionally since their webs clean easy at harvest.

 

[weedaholic721]

@Corvettedoc I was referring to gentrification. Time square in NYC is usually given as a classic example. Another more recent example is the gentrification of Brooklyn, specifically the Williamsburg area. Last time I was there you could see the affluent Upper East side slowly moving up into the typically poorer areas of Spanish Harlem. Usually occurs in areas with old architecture but are run down and have cheap property values, so younger millenials move in and change the dynamic.

I could see it happening in the next ten years to Pueblo with population increase in this state. Denver housing prices have risen significantly and it is already occurring in CO Springs.