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Broad Mites?

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talktosamson

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Understood, but I'm guessing some peeps will not be as conscientious as you. They will become frustrated with this problem, and use Kontos on plants they will be flowering and selling. The question then becomes: how dangerous is this stuff to smoke?

Agreed 100% man. Makes me happy that in the new dispensary laws in Oregon it states all flowers must be tested for pesticide before it goes out on a shelf. You pretty much have to buy a mass spectrometer to do your own testing before you get a licence for a shop. This should start to keep people honest.
 

opt1c

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yeah, however, according to the msds it is safe on the following vegetable transplants...


VEGETABLE TRANSPLANTS:
FRUITING VEGETABLES: Eggplant, Groundcherry, Pepinos, Pepper (Capsicum spp., including Bell, Chili, Cooking, Pimento and
Sweet), Tomatillo, Tomato
LEAFY VEGETABLES: Amaranth (leafy amaranth, Chinese spinach, tampala), Arugula (Roquette), Cardoon, Celery, Celtuce,
Chervil, Chinese celery, Chrysanthemum (edible-leaved and garland), Corn salad, Cress (garden), Cress (upland, yellow rocket,
winter cress), Dandelion, Dock (sorrel), Endive (escarole), Florence fennel (Finocchio), Lettuce (head and leaf), Orach, Parsley,
Purslane (garden and winter), Radicchio (red chicory), Rhubarb, Spinach [including New Zealand and vine (Malabar spinach,
Indian spinach)], Swiss chard, Broccoli, Brussels sprouts, Cabbage, Cauliflower, Cavalo broccolo, Chinese broccoli (gai lon),
Chinese mustard cabbage (gai choy), Kohlrabi, Rape greens
TUBEROUS AND CORM VEGETABLES: Arracacha, Arrowroot, Artichoke (Chinese and Jerusalem), Canna (edible), Cassava (bitter
and sweet), Chayote (root), Chufa, Dasheen (taro), Ginger, Leren, Sweetpotato, Tanier, Turmeric, Yam bean, Yam (true)

seems like a spinach transplant will be ready long before a clone is done flowering out; like all pesticides/fungicides a solid ipm strategy is paramount
 

Jahfreeze

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If you have broad mites do the planet a solid and burn the infected plants. The problem with broad mites is the POISON, and EGGS. You can get rid of them but if you push them into flower with out a full recovery you're wasting time, and money.
The best course of action is to burn, plant seeds, and find out how you got them so it doesn't happen again..
NO sick plant in veg is worth flowering. I dont care what problem, what the strain.
UNLESS YOU HAVE A CLONE ONLY STRAIN THAT DATES PRE 2000....THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO RECREATE.... DO NOT TRY AND TREAT. BURN!
If you're just now finding out about broad mites.. burn your cuts/mother. You are FULLY infested. Find seeds. Plant HEALTHY seeds AWAY from broad. Heat treat your room. Spray the area with an EFFECTIVE OVICIDE/MITICIDE combo with LONG LASTING residual effectiveness. FULLY CLEAN ROOM. NO LEAF MATTER.
2 ways you got them. You accepted cuts from someone.. or you live near a source. Spend the time figuring out how you got and *%ck trying to treat. The poisons from broad mites or miticides will FU@^ you. TREATMENT IS NOT WORTH IN VEG! DO NOT TAKE CUTS AND TREAT AND SALE. DO NOT BUY CUTS FROM ANYONE. START FROM SEED ALWAYS.
 

RetroGrow

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If you have broad mites do the planet a solid and burn the infected plants. The problem with broad mites is the POISON, and EGGS. You can get rid of them but if you push them into flower with out a full recovery you're wasting time, and money.
The best course of action is to burn, plant seeds, and find out how you got them so it doesn't happen again..
NO sick plant in veg is worth flowering. I dont care what problem, what the strain.
UNLESS YOU HAVE A CLONE ONLY STRAIN THAT DATES PRE 2000....THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO RECREATE.... DO NOT TRY AND TREAT. BURN!
If you're just now finding out about broad mites.. burn your cuts/mother. You are FULLY infested. Find seeds. Plant HEALTHY seeds AWAY from broad. Heat treat your room. Spray the area with an EFFECTIVE OVICIDE/MITICIDE combo with LONG LASTING residual effectiveness. FULLY CLEAN ROOM. NO LEAF MATTER.
2 ways you got them. You accepted cuts from someone.. or you live near a source. Spend the time figuring out how you got and *%ck trying to treat. The poisons from broad mites or miticides will FU@^ you. TREATMENT IS NOT WORTH IN VEG! DO NOT TAKE CUTS AND TREAT AND SALE. DO NOT BUY CUTS FROM ANYONE. START FROM SEED ALWAYS.

You haven't read any of the thread, have you?
 

RetroGrow

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Agreed 100% man. Makes me happy that in the new dispensary laws in Oregon it states all flowers must be tested for pesticide before it goes out on a shelf. You pretty much have to buy a mass spectrometer to do your own testing before you get a licence for a shop. This should start to keep people honest.

That's good to know. Now they need to do that in California and Colorado and Washington.
 
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Gifted0ne

if you don't have to keep the clones i'd trash em. but if you wanna keep them pickup og biowar foliar pack. spray everything twice a week. you can find it for like $35 which you can use for like 3 months. good luck!

Yea i found that biowar, so i just need the foliar then huh, its only $23 online not too bad. Ill give it a go cause i do wanna keep these kryptonites
 
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Gifted0ne

Don't throw your infected clones away unless they are too damaged.

One dip in Avid and they will be bug free for 30 days. Heat treat the room. Start a pest management program in your room(s)

Done deal.

God i really wish i could do that, I cant use those poisonous sprays cause of the location of the room, not to mention i cannot afford $300 bottles of spray. You mean remove the plants and put a heater on in the room? what temp and for how long?

Imma try the bennies for spray and i guess ill give the heat in the room a go.
 
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Gifted0ne

If you have broad mites do the planet a solid and burn the infected plants. The problem with broad mites is the POISON, and EGGS. You can get rid of them but if you push them into flower with out a full recovery you're wasting time, and money.
The best course of action is to burn, plant seeds, and find out how you got them so it doesn't happen again..
NO sick plant in veg is worth flowering. I dont care what problem, what the strain.
UNLESS YOU HAVE A CLONE ONLY STRAIN THAT DATES PRE 2000....THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO RECREATE.... DO NOT TRY AND TREAT. BURN!
If you're just now finding out about broad mites.. burn your cuts/mother. You are FULLY infested. Find seeds. Plant HEALTHY seeds AWAY from broad. Heat treat your room. Spray the area with an EFFECTIVE OVICIDE/MITICIDE combo with LONG LASTING residual effectiveness. FULLY CLEAN ROOM. NO LEAF MATTER.
2 ways you got them. You accepted cuts from someone.. or you live near a source. Spend the time figuring out how you got and *%ck trying to treat. The poisons from broad mites or miticides will FU@^ you. TREATMENT IS NOT WORTH IN VEG! DO NOT TAKE CUTS AND TREAT AND SALE. DO NOT BUY CUTS FROM ANYONE. START FROM SEED ALWAYS.

I kinda feel u on this just cause the simple fact I cant use poisons here nor would i want to, also sucks when I get clones from a super good source like "growingforfreedom" on youtube and get burned by even him for broadmites. Im going to try the spinosad and/or og biowar foliar beneficials tea spray. If those dont work looks like ill be going ur route.
 
From my experience you have to treat because they are so small they get everywhere. I tried to throw everything away and start fresh and I do mean fresh, everything was new from the grow location to the nutes, lights, fans and seeds but two weeks in bam they were back. If your not down with using meds that have been treated grow out a few runs and treat heavily and just throw away the bud. Or if your in a warm area just use heat once a week for the rest of your growing life, thats what I'd do but I'm up north in a basement which makes it near impossible.
 
I posted a week or so ago that NUKEem made pistols brown when used during flower but they all grew in new white ones in a day or so. Not sure if it works cause I look pretty clean, I was just using it as a preventative because I'm so freaked out by these things.
 
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Gifted0ne

I posted a week or so ago that NUKEem made pistols brown when used during flower but they all grew in new white ones in a day or so. Not sure if it works cause I look pretty clean, I was just using it as a preventative because I'm so freaked out by these things.

I dont understand what people mean by heat treat the room.
 
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Gifted0ne

Or you could do a search, as he suggested...shesh fucking newbies

I have more growing experience then you, just not as much mites. And i had done a quick search before asking that question, and didnt find the answer was lookin for.

From reading ive realized the best course of action is the rid the room of plants take some cuttings dip them in avid and let them sit in cloning tray until 3-5 days (high humidity). Bomb the room/hot shot no pest strip, wipe down bleach and a week later get the clones in starter cubes etc.

Seems like anything less is a waste of time and money.
 
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SooperSmurph

I have more growing experience then you, just not as much mites. And i had done a quick search before asking that question, and didnt find the answer was lookin for.

From reading ive realized the best course of action is the rid the room of plants take some cuttings dip them in avid and let them sit in cloning tray until 3-5 days (high humidity). Bomb the room/hot shot no pest strip, wipe down bleach and a week later get the clones in starter cubes etc.

Seems like anything less is a waste of time and money.
I remember my first beer :biggrin:

I've said it before, i'll say it again, this thread needs to be replaced with an informative Tarsonomeid FAQ to avoid posts like this caused by the frustration of trying to swallow 170+ thread pages in a single sitting.
 

RetroGrow

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I remember my first beer :biggrin:

I've said it before, i'll say it again, this thread needs to be replaced with an informative Tarsonomeid FAQ to avoid posts like this caused by the frustration of trying to swallow 170+ thread pages in a single sitting.

Go for it. There is no reason why there cannot be an additional FAQ or Cliff Notes version of the information found here. Some of the newbies questions, however, suggest that they haven't read anything at all, nor have they done a search.
They want to be spoon fed and they want it now. It suggests laziness on their part, and on top of that, some of them have attitude. It's not our job to continuously answer the same questions over and over, and is one of the reasons the thread is so long. Also, additional "solutions" continue to emerge.
 
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Gifted0ne

Go for it. There is no reason why there cannot be an additional FAQ or Cliff Notes version of the information found here. Some of the newbies questions, however, suggest that they haven't read anything at all, nor have they done a search.
They want to be spoon fed and they want it now. It suggests laziness on their part, and on top of that, some of them have attitude. It's not our job to continuously answer the same questions over and over, and is one of the reasons the thread is so long. Also, additional "solutions" continue to emerge.

"Also, additional "solutions" continue to emerge" which is exactly why I was asking the question now, I do quiet a bit of reading myself. Next time ill just figure it out myself i wont even bother posting.
 
Can I start with a preventive cntrl program on fresh cuttings? Avid dunk, azamax, spinosad, neem, just to name a few of which I'll be alternating weekly or could mites inject their poison into the mother or cuttings before taking them and manifest later on and not be able to receive treatments mentioned?
 
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