Breeding People

[stoned-trout]

its funny cause I look at it that way.. my saying always was she is a breeder.. lol.. nice child bearing hips ...I definitely chose my ex baby mama for looks and most likely to have healthy good looking baby..worked out well for me and my son.. he is good looking an healthy ...yeehaw

 

[stoned-trout]

I don't know, but I've planted my share of people seeds.

otherwise known as BABY BATTER...yeehaw

 

[waveguide]

as a nerdy guy kid you grow up and you read about all the wild shit, scientists or emperors or regimes who raised special kids and messed with their heads to turn them into resources.

for sure there are millions of examples i bet you could pick of people "engineering" their children a bit too hardcore.. like this one time i was working in a nursery watering 25g citrus trees, dragging the hose around and back in the rows, pretty quiet because it took a minute to fill each one.

it was a fancy nursery, concrete paths, center of town, wealthy clientele. and this well dressed woman is pushing a stroller with a kid inside and she parks it and she gets over the kid and starts tickling it, way past the point of fun, until the kid is crying and she keeps saying "the tiger's got you now.."

things like that make me wonder. did that baby do something in a past life? do irritated babies make better executives? or is that the bad twin of the two? you know.. i've heard about project monarch stuff and i think it's only a matter of accustomisation that prevents us from seeing how stepford wives or whatever culture gets.

like two white girls jumping a rope.. what were they chanting??!! icky picky pinky

 

[TNTBudSticker]

Do you think that people could be bred like plants

Sure...Breed Good Genetics like finding a Male that's keeping his hair pass 50 years old,Still don't smell like cheese,Never gets arrested and smokes weed.Love big houses.Smells money a mile away.

Up to the females anyways..they don't give a crap..if they want a 3rd world guy's pollywog but not say,someone in the usa with a stable job.

She is Still going to do it.

So just hang outside sometime.

Tell her your name is "Genetics" ...the Rest is History.

I wish really fat people would stop breeding...your ruining my view...fat little pudgy people everywhere..yeehaw.....suk it hatrz...

Yes ! Stop Breeding..Holy Moly !
The Only house on the Block with a sugar Cane field that a mile long and nowhere in sight.

 

[waveguide]

recently a well known local band the phantom limes or something or one of those kind lost a member. i know the family through community, father was a big and has a wing of the named after him. old town family, big big money if you're down on 4th there's the mural at the crossroads with old time people on it. their ancestor is the guy selling/ out the/.


you know some people are kind of kept away and insulated and shut off so they can be kept as a resource far be it for me to suggest i know anything about this from personal experience because i have found that identifyone onesself as a resource can be extremely hazardous. rich offspring who never seem to accomplish much you hear about or marry or do anything useful apparently.

big money. and magicians. dominators, predatorial.

like a friend married into the fam, white vans follow. and punishment for that. oh yes.


understand "some" of these rich boys are held prisoner through some mechanism or other. that aint me though, i really haven't had more than maybe $50 to my name for years.

dude is probably going to read this hi

 

[angelgoob]

We select our mates. That aids evolution.

 

[t99]

We select our mates. That aids evolution.

Sometimes it's just alcohol.

 

[Genghis Kush]

loss of genetic variability leads to less adaptability in the future.
mutations are the key to a species survival.
mass breeding will make us weak, like domesticated farm animals.

 

[HempKat]

I don't think it can necessarily be done by us on each other, because of morals and life span, but...

Do you think that people could be bred like plants, and that most of the inbreeding popular theory is nonsense? i.e. instant retardation.

We couldn't necessarily breed a line of people and stick around to see the results, because of our lifespan.

Just wondering, and thinking it's a lot like plants.

In theory it can be done, we do it with animals, dogs, cats, livestock and on the general topic of breeding we're, no different then animals. What would be interesting to learn is if you breed a person for optimal physical properties would the type of person they are be better morally and spiritually? A big problem would be what criteria do you use, I mean if the focus is entirely on the physical then you could in theory end up with a perfect physical specimen that is dumber then a rock. Conversely if you focused on mental positives you could end up with the world's greatest mind but too weak and puny to survive in a hostile environment.

 

[Tripsick]

why take the chance breeding when you can manipulate the genes/dna the way you want it.

 

[waveguide]

What would be interesting to learn is if you breed a person for optimal physical properties would the type of person they are be better morally and spiritually? A big problem would be

pray that you never find out in this or any lifetime.

understand this.

the imposition of control would be profoundly disturbing for the individual in question.

expressed as "hell is other people," when the quality of intent, volition over your life is the product of external coercion then there is, effectively, no point in living, because the joys and sorrows of making your own choices have been removed from you. you live essentially as an automaton, incapable of benefiting others or yourself by expression of your own volition generated from your unique circumstance within the world. you might as well be a stick or a gear or a piece of shit out the ass.

of course, the analogy of control can be abstracted to include any factor in existence, but as a forthright manifestation of the deprivation of freewill, it blows.


sure, THEY may be better morally or spiritually. but "work on your own shit first" is the way of the good in the world.

 

[waveguide]

let me give you an example.

friend of mine, from my smart kid school. 180 iq

180 iq i said it.

what's the school in new york for math, full scholarship. freelance programming consultant, i think eg. he was consulted for implementing amazon's shopping cart system at one point. when he accepts a contract, he's the boss.



single parent, police detective. pushed him, i think is the story. i know that sentiment expressed as hatred at some points, but learning to live with it.

the guy - i asked him for values in a mathematical curve fitting certain points, pulled it out of his head in a few seconds. super duper gentle person. to be that intelligent, requires calm.

but everyone wants to use this person or thinks they are this person and he was reduced to a barely functional state, struggling to apply for disability, in hospital almost dead in and out of consciousnessfor a fortnight.

i mean, i could go on and describe things, but understand, yes, he is great, his abilities are profound, but the world fucked him hard, and it's no fun to be this dude, ever.

i wish i could get him to try weed, but he's probably been engineered and steered away.

i treasure every speck of autonomy he has in his life, so i don't like to really even say anything much. just space to not be used, to not be someone's contrivance.

 

[Top Selecta]

Ok

 

[HempKat]

pray that you never find out in this or any lifetime.

understand this.

the imposition of control would be profoundly disturbing for the individual in question.

expressed as "hell is other people," when the quality of intent, volition over your life is the product of external coercion then there is, effectively, no point in living, because the joys and sorrows of making your own choices have been removed from you. you live essentially as an automaton, incapable of benefiting others or yourself by expression of your own volition generated from your unique circumstance within the world. you might as well be a stick or a gear or a piece of shit out the ass.

of course, the analogy of control can be abstracted to include any factor in existence, but as a forthright manifestation of the deprivation of freewill, it blows.


sure, THEY may be better morally or spiritually. but "work on your own shit first" is the way of the good in the world.

I think you're overanalyzing it. All I'm asking really is do physical attributes carry a greater value then then non physical ones? A better physical specimen isn't necessarily a better person. Maybe things like "Giving a fuck about others" is just as essential to the survival of a species? I've known plenty of "perfect physical specimens" that had zero personality.

 

[amanda88]

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Idiocracy is a 2006 American satirical science fiction comedy film directed by Mike Judge and starring Luke Wilson, Maya Rudolph, Dax Shepard, and Terry Crews. The film tells the story of two people who take part in a top-secret military hibernation experiment, only to awaken 500 years later in a dystopian society where advertising, commercialism, and cultural anti-intellectualism have run rampant and that is devoid of intellectual curiosity, social responsibility, and coherent notions of justice and human rights.

Still a great movie about breeding idiots in the future, needs a re vamp but the gist is there

 

[mrcreosote]

I'd like to breed humans that would have spots like Dalmatian dogs.

No reason. Just for fun.

Toss a little variety in the gene pool.

 

[angelgoob]

You could breed them out for certain traits, but then other traits would dither. It's a fine balance and I think we already select partners suited on immunity factors because it turns out one's immunity mirror the opposite of what the other one can't do.

That means we breed for immunity first, as there is a high correlation to reverse-matched Major histocompatibility complexes.

I've read on the National Institute of Health's website a lot of abstracts about people in a relationship and how - amazingly - their immunities complete each others. This means when we look at an attractive person we may see how athletic they are, or see sharp eyes, but we also must somehow sense their immunity as this is highly correlated to who we end up with.

Somehow we must sense it, and if you think about it intelligence, speed, strength or any other measure is inadequate compared to having a good immune system. Having complexes that complete each other means the children will have higher immunity from disease and it's more important to living than any other single feature you could name including intelligence. Funnily enough in people who love each other and find each other...somehow these immunological complexes compliment each other to give offspring a better chance at fighting of things with the immune systems.

So it turns out we do select and breed based on eyes, muscularature, agility, intelligence and somehow we sense each other's immune systems and are attracted to THOSE people. Have you ever been attracted to someone your mate wasn't attracted to? I mean she has all these gorgeous features and intelligence, but for some reason he doesn't see it? He is probably somehow sensing his Major Histocompatibility complex is not matched up with hers based the genotype he senses just by looking at her, or maybe her features do not compliment his as much. All I can say is immunity is most important for living and science has proven that lover's immunology compliment each other for better immune function in their young.

Major histocompatibility complex and sexual selection has been observed in male mice making mate choices of females with different MHCs and thus demonstrating sexual selection.



Maybe this is the basis for love at first sight. Daaaaaamn she gotta an immune system dat compliment mine!