Breaking News: Dutch Cabinet plans strict coffeeshop policy!

[elmanito]

Holland out - California In.

To Spain is a shorter trip and they've nicer beaches.

Namaste

 

[lagushka]

no surrender

no surrender

A government like the dutch that steals from the working and gives to the lazy will face forever people trying to keep from sinking by growing gods grass.There are not so many ways to stay alive if tax people are livin off your back.

 

[Gastro]

It's bust em up week again. Yesterday Stupid bulgarians got caught stealing power for their 30000 clones. Pictures of the "professional" grow here.

And today was announced they busted a grow in a former mushroomfarm, where they were growing 10,000 plants.
Oh and the Minister of Security once again announced that Tourists that only come for Drugs, should go somewhere else. Where? They never answered that.
Everything is once again fine and dandy in the Dutch Policestate

 

[sallyforthDeleted member 75382]

Must admit I prefer Spain.

 

[Gastro]

Last update of today atleast.
Minister of Security wants to ban all Growshops... Furtermore he wants everybody that is an accomplish to growing but doesn't grow themselves (read: landlords, electricians, growshops owners/employees, transport companies etc..) be eligible to a prison sentence up to 3 years.
The reason behind this is that after 10 years of actively hunting down grows they came to the shocking conclusion that marijuana growers are more and more involved with organized crime (i wonder why)...

 

[mr.haze420]

Last update of today atleast.
Minister of Security wants to ban all Growshops... Furtermore he wants everybody that is an accomplish to growing but doesn't grow themselves (read: landlords, electricians, growshops owners/employees, transport companies etc..) be eligible to a prison sentence up to 3 years.
The reason behind this is that after 10 years of actively hunting down grows they came to the shocking conclusion that marijuana growers are more and more involved with organized crime (i wonder why)...

they better start building lots of new prisons !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gastro]

You mean stop closing the ones that are left right now ^^ and perhaps sending belgian prisoners back!

 

[dead head jed]

sounds to me like somebody high up is getting some of that mob money
why else make the move to "push crime out" by strategically pushing the pot biz underground
this shit is the perfect fertilizer for the mafia seed
now grow you little seeds GROW
somebody wants their cut

 

[sallyforthDeleted member 75382]

Someone in Netherlands government is now under the elite mob.

 

[mosstrooper]

Cant help but agree with this too, it can only benefit organised criminal gangs. Im not sure if they are being bribed though, im more curious if this is some kind of home-grown neo conservatism.
Still the worst news for me personally ive heard this year though, maybe this trip to The Dam will be my last.

 

[elmanito]

Cant help but agree with this too, it can only benefit organised criminal gangs. Im not sure if they are being bribed though, im more curious if this is some kind of home-grown neo conservatism.
Still the worst news for me personally ive heard this year though, maybe this trip to The Dam will be my last.

At 1 hand this is good for innovation, but on the other hand this will give the criminal gangs the chance to expand their operations which is bad for cannabis lovers like us, because the gang war in the south will also expand and the Netherlands is to small to be a sort of Mexico.

For the government it is a game to spend tax money to nonsens operations with a bad end, only the minister of justice still thinks he can win.

Namaste

 

[Gastro]

Great News today, however still in a very early stage and definitely not a certainty. Nevertheless here the good news.

According to a Professor of Law at the University of Groningen, cities in The Netherlands have the right to ignore the demand of the State to use a weedpass. Strangely enough this law isn't going to be a state enforced law, but a council enforced law. So it's possible that in Amsterdam you don't need a pass but when you go to Maastricht or Breda you do need a pass, and that you might need a pass for every seperate coffeeshop? or city/council??

 

[Gastro]

Who would have thought it would be a busy cannabis newsweek in the Netherlands.
They counted the money from the last big bust in brabant at the growshops 3million 52 thousand euros, and some high explosives.

However they made another major bust today! 8000 plants were found, again in the province of Brabant and 2 suspects have been arrested.
So far in the past week they busted about 30000 plants, half a tonne of smokeables, a couple million euros, and weapons...

 

[wemary]

great more prisons...........

 

[growshopfrank]

Cant help but agree with this too, it can only benefit organised criminal gangs. Im not sure if they are being bribed though, im more curious if this is some kind of home-grown neo conservatism.
Still the worst news for me personally ive heard this year though, maybe this trip to The Dam will be my last.

Sure but I doubt that new laws will help Dutch OC much because if you take away the cannabis tourists the market gets much smaller and why would they come if cannabis was illegal the same as home?

 

[Gastro]

Sure but I doubt that new laws will help Dutch OC much because if you take away the cannabis tourists the market gets much smaller and why would they come if cannabis was illegal the same as home?

It is very simple Prohibition on a good/service/product that is relatively wide accepted by society is going to create some form of crime. In the worst case scenario you create complete department of organized crime (ie. the maffia after the prohibition in the usa, illegal prostitution). If at the same the good/service has low but acceptable risks, then there are few solution that will work and keep strains on society to a minimum, mainly through legalization and regulation.
As for Holland, current politicians seem to underestimate the economic value of cannabis to the society. They fail to recognize that even doh they created an illegal and shady framework around coffeeshops, still a significant amount of money actually flows towards the local economies.

 

[Rednick]

Sure but I doubt that new laws will help Dutch OC much because if you take away the cannabis tourists the market gets much smaller and why would they come if cannabis was illegal the same as home?

Really?
Lucky for them they still have England and Germany in close proximity.

 

[growshopfrank]

Really?
Lucky for them they still have England and Germany in close proximity.

yes you are right there is no OC in England or Germany to pick up the domestic market if smokers stay home.

 

[Rednick]

yes you are right there is no OC in England or Germany to pick up the domestic market if smokers stay home.

Or to pick up shipments from abroad.
There is no OC in the US to pickup the slack, so we rely on Canadian and Mexican OC. Is that what you are saying?

Besides, the Dutch have sooo many different political factions, shit hardly gets done anyway.

 

[Gastro]

Vice-Minister of Security has announced that they are planning to roll out the cannabis pass plan at the end of 2011 or the start of 2012, most probably 1st of January.

This means that concrete plans and discussion must be held this year, to finalize the plan and how they want the pass to function.