Botanicals

[BlueJayWay]

Weed leaf tea man- gets my two thumbs up!

1cup Cannabis Sativa meal per 5 gal H2O

I like to add 1/4 cup kelp meal also but I pretty much do that with whatever tea I make...

 

[Seandawg]

Sweet jay!
I think I'll keep a good amount left over from my next harvest and use to keep feeding the same plants over and over.

 

[Old_Headbanger]

Just read coots post in gascans zazen thread. I don't want to clog up that thread with odd questions.

Lactones are growth inhibitors, I believe it said. Is that what we throw away when we do the initial soak on the barley or whatever sprout tea we're making? Could we use that 'throw away' water for something? I'm not that conservative, but I do wonder if it could be used to stunt or stop growth on plants we dont want around. Like on our stone walls and such. Kinda like roundup? I'm pretty stoned this AM and the more I type, the more foolish this all sounds, but whatever. I realize that I'd need a lot if it even worked anyway.

Sorry for the ramble, this thread needed a bump anyway.

 

[Seandawg]

Just read coots post in gascans zazen thread. I don't want to clog up that thread with odd questions.

Lactones are growth inhibitors, I believe it said. Is that what we throw away when we do the initial soak on the barley or whatever sprout tea we're making? Could we use that 'throw away' water for something? I'm not that conservative, but I do wonder if it could be used to stunt or stop growth on plants we dont want around. Like on our stone walls and such. Kinda like roundup? I'm pretty stoned this AM and the more I type, the more foolish this all sounds, but whatever. I realize that I'd need a lot if it even worked anyway.

Sorry for the ramble, this thread needed a bump anyway.

Great question, and yes I also believe that this thread needed a bump!

Could it be effective enough to stunt other plants, I would initially believe no. The reasoning is that the amount that's being removed off of the seeds themselves are only enough to ensure that the seed doesn't prematurely sprout before its time. So although that chemical is present it's not in such high concentrations to make it that effective to do the chore that you'd like. And even if it was used for that purpose, I don't believe that it would have enough of an effect to actually be measurable (meaning that even if it did work, you really wouldn't notice its effect).

SD

 

[Old_Headbanger]

Thanks man!! Oh lactones, you've failed me...I have a bunch of poison ivy and briars and such that I want to get rid of on a stone wall, again... I won't use roundup, so i'll just keep clipping!!

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Old Headbanger

Horticultural Vinegar which contains >20% Acetic acid. You can find a number of sources at Google

It works on the leaves and branches but does not have much effect on the roots but it's a safe alternative.

HTH

CC

 

[Old_Headbanger]

Old Headbanger

Horticultural Vinegar which contains >20% Acetic acid. You can find a number of sources at Google

It works on the leaves and branches but does not have much effect on the roots but it's a safe alternative.

HTH

CC

Thanks a lot, Coot!! This is what I found on amazon.

Bradfield Natural Horticultural Vinegar is an effective alternative to harsh chemical weed killers. Most effective on warm, sunny days. The heat of the midday sun will turn most plants totally brown 2 to 6 hours after application.


Sounds good to me, it'll at least make it way easier to get to the roots with the clippers. Just like its always easier to clear brush in the winter when nothings growing on anything. Sounds pretty effective for sure. Thanks!!

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Bradfield Organics is a solid company so you can buy & use their products with confidence.

I would hit their web site and use their store locator and see if there isn't a local retailer - they are a national company. Even if your local store doesn't stock this having them put in an order for you is a standard service.

You might save some money - worth a phone call

CC

 

[Sunnyvale]

How long into flowering will sprouted tea's be beneficial?

 

[ClackamasCootz]

I run them weekly until the very end......

 

[Sunnyvale]

Thank you. I'll get on that now then.

 

[greenmatter]

CC posted this one in another thread.http://www.frenchgardening.com/tech.html?pid=309088884143

it mentions the herbicidal effects of nettle tea but does not go into it. anybody here used nettle tea to kill stuff?

 

[ClackamasCootz]

greenmatter

Here's a fairly comprehensive list of the compounds, elements, etc. found in Stinging Nettles (Urtica dioica L.)

Both fungicide & pesticide compounds and then take a look at the good ol' NPK deal.

CC

 

[al-k-mist]

Old Headbanger

Horticultural Vinegar which contains >20% Acetic acid. You can find a number of sources at Google

It works on the leaves and branches but does not have much effect on the roots but it's a safe alternative.

HTH

CC

is that all it contains? would it bee possible to dilute glacial acetic acid to 1/5 potency?
just tryin to save dollars here and there.(and wouldnt mind finding a few either)

 

[Mr. Roseberry]

Im picking up a few comfrey plants this week. I know it will be next year before I need to worry about any of this but I have a couple questions. How long can the extract be kept if refrigerated and how long can the leaves be kept if dried and ground to powder?

 

[ClackamasCootz]

is that all it contains? would it bee possible to dilute glacial acetic acid to 1/5 potency?

just tryin to save dollars here and there.(and wouldnt mind finding a few either)

This is a pure Acetic acid product? And they're going to ship it to you?

I don't even want to know about this one......

 

[floral]

A few different ideas I have been meaning to ask about here. Apologies for the random pile of topics in one post.

1] LAVENDER FPE. Just wanted to post my observations about lavender. I recall some discussion in the FPE thread about linalool and camphor and how shorter infusions would be preferable to fermentation for the beneficial oils in rosemary, lavender, basil, and cilantro. Believe someone said that linalool is not soluble in water.

In any case, we had big bunches of lavender from a nearby farm so I decided to soak them anyway - otherwise they would have just gone into compost. After an initial use I forgot about the lavender soak and it sat for months. Much to my surprise, when I opened the container, it smelled like... really strong fresh lavender. I swear you could use it for perfume. I believe the experts in the other thread who said that the useful compounds won't still be in there yadda yadda yadda, but I may experiment with it anyway because if it smells like lavender to me, there must be something in there, and maybe it would dissuade bugs. Or maybe we should just keep it to make our house smell nice when guests come over. Thoughts?


2] NASTURTIUM / TROPAEOLUM MAJUS. I remember the thread about using camellia flower FPEs as a boost during bloom time, and looking around the neighborhood at the vast patches of nasturtiums I was wondering about using nasturtium blossoms in the same way, on the theory that if the entire plant is edible, maybe that's less risky than using blooms from possibly poisonous plants? Then I see that early on in this thread nasturtium leaves were recommended for a silica boost. Any of y'all tried using nasturtium leaves or flowers or both?

3] YARROW - LEAVES TOO OR JUST FLOWERS? And regarding yarrow, does anyone use the leaves too, or just the flowers. We have a fair supply of flowers, and have used a yarrow flower FPE during stretch and early bloom, but if there's any use for the leaves I'd be happy to mow some of these things down.

4] CLOVER SOAK? Wondering about whether a clover soak would work as a little N boost, not as good as alfalfa I'm sure but maybe faster than chopping and dropping the clover plants themselves.

 

[floral]

Still wondering if the yarrow leaves will be good for FPE or infusion. They smell nice, anyway.

 

[grod31]

anyone think reishi would have benefits?

edit-
from drugs.com
"A peptidoglycan from reishi contained approximately 7% protein and 76% carbohydrate. 13 Certain enzymes from reishi have been reported, 14 as well as minerals such as calcium, magnesium, and potassium. Lanostan, coumarins, ergosterol, and cerevisterol are also components of reishi"
list of things they will do for people

 

[DARC MIND]

A few different ideas I have been meaning to ask about here. Apologies for the random pile of topics in one post.

1] LAVENDER FPE. Just wanted to post my observations about lavender. I recall some discussion in the FPE thread about linalool and camphor and how shorter infusions would be preferable to fermentation for the beneficial oils in rosemary, lavender, basil, and cilantro. Believe someone said that linalool is not soluble in water.

In any case, we had big bunches of lavender from a nearby farm so I decided to soak them anyway - otherwise they would have just gone into compost. After an initial use I forgot about the lavender soak and it sat for months. Much to my surprise, when I opened the container, it smelled like... really strong fresh lavender. I swear you could use it for perfume. I believe the experts in the other thread who said that the useful compounds won't still be in there yadda yadda yadda, but I may experiment with it anyway because if it smells like lavender to me, there must be something in there, and maybe it would dissuade bugs. Or maybe we should just keep it to make our house smell nice when guests come over. Thoughts?

respect brother
i have observed this many many times but it doesn't smell as pure and clean or fresh as a quick few day soak.. well at least many other blooms
none the less, fermented plant tea's or botanical imho have pest/disease deterrent properties from observation

2] NASTURTIUM / TROPAEOLUM MAJUS. I remember the thread about using camellia flower FPEs as a boost during bloom time, and looking around the neighborhood at the vast patches of nasturtiums I was wondering about using nasturtium blossoms in the same way, on the theory that if the entire plant is edible, maybe that's less risky than using blooms from possibly poisonous plants? Then I see that early on in this thread nasturtium leaves were recommended for a silica boost. Any of y'all tried using nasturtium leaves or flowers or both?

ive fermented many full plants of nasturtium, there great trap crops & predator attracters.. but i love there broad leaves the most for mulch plus once handled they give off that mustard like aroma witch im sure deters pest as well.

3] YARROW - LEAVES TOO OR JUST FLOWERS? And regarding yarrow, does anyone use the leaves too, or just the flowers. We have a fair supply of flowers, and have used a yarrow flower FPE during stretch and early bloom, but if there's any use for the leaves I'd be happy to mow some of these things down.

leaves make great mulch and ferment plant extract for green/veg type growth..the flowers of yarrow are an example of great smelling quick soak to a not so bad smelling fermented flower extract. the flowers make very very good blooming foliar & drench supplement

4] CLOVER SOAK? Wondering about whether a clover soak would work as a little N boost, not as good as alfalfa I'm sure but maybe faster than chopping and dropping the clover plants themselves.

yes of course, alfalfa is over rated
lots of botanical give you that little N boost and any legume (many native,edible & ornamental shrubs/tree's)will accumulate more N during certain stages of growth