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Boron: The secret to getting more flowers

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sproutco

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BACKCOUNTRY said:
According to wikpedia, a hectare is 10,000 square meters, or 107,639 square feet.

107,639 feet divided by 270 grams, equals 1 gram of Boric acid per 398.66 square feet?? A area approx 20'x20'??

Is my math right?
1 gram of actual boron per 20 x 20 area. Boric acid is not pure (only 16%B)so you would use 6.25 grams.
 
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The Bling

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REAL SECRET OF MORE FLOWERS

REAL SECRET OF MORE FLOWERS

sproutco said:


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kokua

I broke down and decided to take one for the IC team...

I put 4 prime ecsd's on the table in hopes that we might find out if boron is truley a good flower booster.




The first plant got borax as per Sproutco's directions...



This one got Biomin's chelated Boron...


This one got what most would consider THE flower booster,Bio Nova's PK 13-14...


And the last one is the control...it got the usuall, Budswell...


I will update as things progress...After this initial dose of boron, they will all go back on their regular omri listed diet :)
 

sproutco

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:lurk: If you did not disolve the borax in very hot water, you might find poor results. Boron usually is not chelated because it can't. What is the chelate...polyborate? Be careful...I don't have a rate for use with that. Flush if you see bottom leaves begin burning.
 
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Kokua - Kick Ass!! Please keep us updated. Like I said - I used to add a pinch to my soil - but never knew if it was helping / hurting... I am personally very interested to see what happens!
 

BudZad7

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Bat Guano+Rock dust= Boron

Bat Guano+Rock dust= Boron

Hi all ! Bat Guano, and Rock dust have plenty of boron and is for sure ORGANIC, I would not put soap in my dirt.....lol been using these for over
30 yrs..... see....

2nd wk flowering.....Blueberry male X OG Kush cutting.....Peace!!!
 
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BudZad7 said:
Hi all ! Bat Guano, and Rock dust have plenty of boron and is for sure ORGANIC, I would not put soap in my dirt.....lol been using these for over
30 yrs..... see....

2nd wk flowering.....Blueberry male X OG Kush cutting.....Peace!!!
Funny - soap is a natural pesticide. It's been used on crops forever... :wave:
 
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sproutco said:
:lurk: If you did not disolve the borax in very hot water, you might find poor results. Boron usually is not chelated because it can't. What is the chelate...polyborate? Be careful...I don't have a rate for use with that. Flush if you see bottom leaves begin burning.

I did the Borax treatment as per your directions Sproutco…I dissolved 1/8 teaspoon in about a quart of hot almost steaming hot water. I let it cool for a minute, while I was preparing the other mixes, then I added it to 5 gallons of water. I watered the plant from that water. Is that right sproutco?

The biomin boron is omri listed, and I dosed at about ¾ of their recommended dosage. J

What is the chelate...polyborate? …Glycine

http://www.jhbiotech.com/2004 Product Labels/biomin boron D-A-1.pdf
 

inflorescence

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...and Rock dust have plenty of boron and is for sure ORGANIC,

What kind of rock dust? I hope you don't mean soft rock phosphate, the kind with fluorapatite, the kind that is radioactive, the kind that is linked to lung cancer from smoking tobacco ferted with soft rock phosphate.
 

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kokua said:
I did the Borax treatment as per your directions Sproutco…I dissolved 1/8 teaspoon in about a quart of hot almost steaming hot water. I let it cool for a minute, while I was preparing the other mixes, then I added it to 5 gallons of water. I watered the plant from that water. Is that right sproutco?

The biomin boron is omri listed, and I dosed at about ¾ of their recommended dosage. J

What is the chelate...polyborate? …Glycine

http://www.jhbiotech.com/2004 Product Labels/biomin boron D-A-1.pdf



Taking one for the team Damn Kokua let me know next time so I can get your back:) I really do hope this works man but I did my normal google search and found this:

Boron (IPA: /ˈbɔːrɒn/) is a chemical element with atomic number 5 and the chemical symbol B. A trivalent metalloid element, boron occurs abundantly in the ore borax. Boron is never found free in nature.

Several allotropes of boron exist; amorphous boron is a brown powder, though crystalline boron is black, hard (9.3 on Mohs' scale), and a weak conductor at room temperature.

Elemental boron is used as a dopant in the semiconductor industry, while boron compounds play important roles as light structural materials, nontoxic insecticides and preservatives, and reagents for chemical synthesis.

Boron is an essential plant nutrient, and as an ultratrace mineral is necessary for the optimal health of animals, though its physiological role in animals is poorly understood.


Borax, also called sodium borate or sodium tetraborate, is an important boron compound. It is a soft white many-sided crystal that dissolves easily in water. If left exposed to dry air, it slowly loses its water of hydration and becomes the white chalky mineral tincalconite (Na2B4O7 · 5H2O). Commercially sold borax is usually partially dehydrated.

Borax occurs naturally in evaporite deposits produced by the repeated evaporation of seasonal lakes (see playa). The most commercially important deposits are found in Turkey and near Boron, California and other locations in the American southwest, the Atacama desert in Chile, and in Tibet. Borax may also be produced synthetically from other boron compounds.

Borax is widely used in detergents, water softeners, soaps, disinfectants, and pesticides. Its use in detergents is due to its ability to bind to and solvate dirt particles in addition to producing peroxides which have a bleaching effect. One of its most widely advertised uses was as a hand-cleaner for industrial workers. It is used in making enamel glazes, glass and strengthening pottery and ceramics. It is also easily converted to boric acid or borate, which have many applications. It is also used to make buffer solutions that are used in chemical analysis.

Large amounts of borax pentahydrate are used for manufacturing insulating fibreglass and cellulose insulation as a fire retardant and anti-fungal compound. Large amounts are also used in production of sodium perborate monohydrate for use in detergents.

A mixture of borax and ammonium chloride is used as a flux when welding iron and steel. It lowers the melting point of the unwanted iron oxide (scale), allowing it to run off. Borax is also used mixed with water as a flux when soldering jewelry metals such as gold or silver. It allows the molten solder to flow evenly over the joint in question.

When used in a mixture, borax can be used to kill carpenter ants and fleas. Borax is also an ingredient in Slime.











It states it is a good nute but is not found free in nature. Now knowing attorneys like I do (thats a whole other thread) the word free might be open for opinion BUT I've seen simpler things work over the years and you my friend are the man to find out and Thank You for the test.

sproutco kokua is the man for the job trust me on this one. I remember an article of his in High Times not to long ago so your information is being followed to the T.


Good Luck
Wags
 
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relic, inflorescence, backcountry :yes:

I'm looking forward to seeing whatever results your tests show kokua. :bow:


I love the smell of Borax in the morning... smells like... Victory.
:laughing:

I just about fell out of my chair stretchpuppy...ahhhhhhhhh
 
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sproutco

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kokua said:
I did the Borax treatment as per your directions Sproutco…I dissolved 1/8 teaspoon in about a quart of hot almost steaming hot water. I let it cool for a minute, while I was preparing the other mixes, then I added it to 5 gallons of water. I watered the plant from that water. Is that right sproutco?

The biomin boron is omri listed, and I dosed at about ¾ of their recommended dosage. J

What is the chelate...polyborate? …Glycine

http://www.jhbiotech.com/2004 Product Labels/biomin boron D-A-1.pdf
Yes ...thats right. Interestingly, the biomin contains borax.
 
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kokua

not sure if it does either yet...wait a few weeks and you will be able to see with your own eyes.
 
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kokua

48 hours since the application...everything looks fine so far. I will keep ya'll updated as things progress. :)
 
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