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BOG Seeds Sour Bubble.

Hammerhead

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I just popped 3 Corey x DMT.. These have all been solid Afghanica genes showing in this cross. All squat plants with no stretch to speak of. This is all from the DMT male. These are in flower now. They look out of place being small vs everything else. I had to put them under the 300w LED lowered to 3' above the floor lol.


These are pics from BOG in 2013.. I think this is the newer SB.. The older original didn't look like this. Finding pics posted of that original expression isn't easy. Any SB seeds before 2010 will have more bubba kush expressions.
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This is a good thread for reference. Lots of the bubba expression in this thread

This is a shot from Grindhouse SB bx1 ix1--2008 from Cornflake
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I'm growing right now some Rocky Melon from Karma Genetics, it's a 3 way hybrid with Sour Bubble, Flo(Colorado Flo cut) and Karma's Melon. I have one girl from this cross who is very close to the Sour Bubble, I have never seen a plant like that, it almost did not stretch, it is extremely stocky with huge stems and very slow to grow and flower. From what I've read in this thread it is the same traits than the original Sour Bubble, I'll upload some pics of this girl soon, she was heavily stripped from her leaves to allow the light going to the bottom part of the plant. It is under LED so there is less stretch than under HPS or CMH but this girl has the most stocky structure I've ever seen in decades. I hope she'll be able to produce a good amount of buds despite its small size.
Sorry i made a mistake on the lineage of Rocky Melon it's a cross of (Sour Dubb x Colorado Flo) x Melon and not Sour Bubble but it doesn't change the fact I have a plant with a very distinctive structure out of those seeds, the stockiest plant I've ever had? She's half the size of its sisters grown together and very slow to form some buds.
I've added some pictures of the plant I'm talking about, it had 5 weeks of veg and is on the pics at day 29 of 12/12. She's very slow to bloom and was also very slow to grow, her sisters have much longer branches and secondary branches. I don't know if it's an expression of her Sour Dubb genetics but it's extremely stocky, I should have taken a close-up of the main stem to show you the beast it is.
 

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^this is that thread! Crazy the legend has been revived, eh?
It's the best thread with all the info we need about Bogs SB. The 1st 10 pages have plenty of Bubba expressions. We don't see that in SB anymore. I looked and couldn't find another thread anywhere with better info.


Sensi could have def got a seed mixed into their WL Bubblegum. This happens more than we think. It's a sham that Grindhouse SB line was not preserved. These seeds would be a great source for breeding SB
 
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CannaT

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Why is it so important to you that the unique traits of Sour Bubble come from Bubblegum, something almost nobody else believes?
I thought that breeder of sour bubble said so.
How many of you that dont belive to breeders info.
Growed 20-50-100 seeds of bubblegum like BOG did ?

It is not importent to me.

I just ask questions ?
If you dont like them,tell me.
I will stop,but I think that forums are for that to merge different opinions,somwhere in between im shure is closer to the truth.

If we all think the same,what will be point of this site ?
 

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If any bubblegum should be discussed it should be White Labels since that is specifically where Bog acquired his base stock. Now is White Labels the same as ThSeeds? Doubtful. Could they be related? Maybe. Will the Dronkers please speak up?? Just sayin
 

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Call your strains whatever ya like, just keep the lineage clear and consistent.

Why is it so important to you that the unique traits of Sour Bubble come from Bubblegum, something almost nobody else believes?

Infinitesimal post is spot on. I would add accurate. The only info we can glean is from breeders. Getting that correct is very important. With all the renaming of clones and shady breeders using names of hyped seeds to sell fakes ruins cannabis lineage. I'm sure lots have grown clones/seeds made from fakes that we aren't aware of.
 
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CannaT

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If any bubblegum should be discussed it should be White Labels since that is specifically where Bog acquired his base stock. Now is White Labels the same as ThSeeds? Doubtful. Could they be related? Maybe. Will the Dronkers please speak up?? Just sayin
It would be better that this post looked like.

Hi guys,I growed few packs of WL and TH bubblegum and told us some infos about pheno diversitiy and oder things.
And that you didnt find any pheno with any SB nounces. Put few pictures.
You will ptobably change my mind.
And I would believe in story someone said here that is gg x gellato pollen.


Just sayin.
 

Nannymouse

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I had WL bubblegum, and the first generation was loud bubblegum, sweet like powder sugar on the lips, but really no other 'flavor', the high was okay. None of that seemed to carry over into the next generation, despite using multiple parents. Am hoping that a cross that i did, will be better.

The sourbubble that i got, i am thinking was so long ago that it must be the earlier version. It was from gifted (already worked) lines, i got it at the (BX3 x BX3) x (BX3 x BX3) generation, and have 'made more' a time or two. Seems that the buds were lighter in base color and denser nugs than some of the more recent photos here. Yes, little to no stretch. I cannot recall what color the seeds were. I was pretty used to seeing white seeds, at that time, as the white widow x that i had, would do white seeds, too.
 

Infinitesimal

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It would be better that this post looked like.

Hi guys,I growed few packs of WL and TH bubblegum and told us some infos about pheno diversitiy and oder things.
And that you didnt find any pheno with any SB nounces. Put few pictures.
You will ptobably change my mind.
And I would believe in story someone said here that is gg x gellato pollen.


Just sayin.
Look bro we’re are all just very passionate, and most of us in this thread have been doing this a very long time. Also many have been working with this line and many other diverse populations of cannabis for some time. I’ve smoked enough to know kush, I’ve smoked Sour Bubble flowers and hash grown by BOG himself. I’ve grown and bred with Sour Bubble, it’s kush more than anything else, there is predominantly OG, PK & afghan/paki types in the bx seed line… Sour Bubble isnt bubblegum it’s kush x BOGbubble.

So now you have to differentiate these populations and ASK what is bubblegum in the first place?

Bubblegum is also a clone only, which both serious seeds and thseeds made crosses with using different paternal progenitors respectively.

Then you have people who do reproductions and sell the seed, hence you have White label bubblegum.

So who’s bubblegum did they start with? Was their line breeding done with first hand experience with the clone only Indiana bubblegum? Did they take all precautions not to contaminate the seed line while reproducing other stains at the same time?

Then you have BOG, and the line work he did with the white label bubblegum to create his BOGbubble line. How many generations was that? And how far removed are we now from the original bubblegum cut?

Further more, what is Indiana bubblegum in the first place, what’s it’s lineage? The gypsy nirvana Thai stick I grew had a strong sweet bubblegum terp, “juicy fruit” Thai… does that mean bubblegum is a Thai hybrid?

I don’t know man?! I’m just asking you to questions about bubblegum

Just sayin 😉

THEN, it’s well established and accept ie that Jim, knowingly or not, got a female kush of some type pregnant when line working another generation of his BOGbubble…. The seed stock that he found his Sour Bubble clone only mother in. It wasn’t pure BOGbubble.

Bog saying that Sour Bubble is “a Bubblegum variation never seen before” is a half truth. He said that for business reasons, so people wouldn’t try buying bubblegum stock and cross it to a bunch of kushs in an attempt to recreate/knock off his work.

Listen to me real quick, sour bubble is a clone only. A true sour bubble dominant pheno, in terms of the aroma flavor and high of Jim’s clone only selection, is hard enough to find in the original sour bubble bx seed stock. Lots of great plants with dope traits, but don’t smoke the same as his Sour Bubble.

You wanna hang on to the hope that you found sour Bubble or can find sour bubble in modern bubblegum seed stock, go ahead. Good luuuuuck

No hard feelings man, but this kinda the big leagues here… ya gotta be able to see the bigger picture of what you’re saying/doing and stay focused on topic.

GG4 is part Sour Dubb, Sour Dubb is Bogs Sour Bubble mom x diesel (which diesel it was has changed as the story has aged) and is very Sour Bubble like/“dominant”

The Gg4 x gelato 45 cross you’re referring to is super glue and yes it smelled and tasted a lot like Sour Bubble + GSC

I ran a bunch of super glue S1 and they segregated into all its constituent parts phenotypically. #10 was similar to Sour Dubb & #4 was very similar to what you might find in original Sour Bubble bx seed stock, a hashy menthol/eucalyptus resin bomb I crossed them with my Sour Bubble hybrid “kokomo” and gifted the #4 josey before he passed. Someone here in the community won them at auction and still has them.

If someone was in here comparing a Gg4 x gelato hybrid to Sour Bubble there’s a chance they’re referring to that super glue S1 #10 selection of mine. Which would be dope if she was still alive! Haha
 

Infinitesimal

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It would be better that this post looked like.

Hi guys,I growed few packs of WL and TH bubblegum and told us some infos about pheno diversitiy and oder things.
And that you didnt find any pheno with any SB nounces. Put few pictures.
You will ptobably change my mind.
And I would believe in story someone said here that is gg x gellato pollen.


Just sayin.
If you could link me with the post where someone is mentioning GG x gelato that would be cool
 

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Some of my selections and Ol bucks mom who contributed to the seed hunt. I went through 80 plants over a couple runs picking moms. In the end the good ones were there. Lime branchy male, purple mom, the various flavors of old, hashy, sweater fruits, eucalyptus types. Mostly heterozygous combinations with some lock down on traits in the weighted blanket. The end is a mix of all my winning moms. I used my own experiences and the many posts from members here to settle on what I thought were all the best. I think we’ll find a great spread of what I call the first gen sour bubbles rather than those of this last ten years. Happy hunting!
U have any test grows? Completed seed to harvest plus identified all phenotypes?
 
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