bobblehead overtakes

[silver hawaiian]

Lots on my mind in reading all this bobbles, but ultimately, the general gut on this end is Good for you. Feels more and more like the writing is on the wall..

I think MIway was spot-on in terms of keeping it [relatively, to you] simple. That is, tinkering in the name of discovery and advancement is awesome, but clockwork is priceless.

How about a tinker-corner?

Now, on that note, .. I'm quietly waiting and hoping for you to start tinkering with the organics. Even outside in the garden..

To be honest, I think I really just want to benefit from your experience and subsequent feedback/input.

But who knows -- legal beagle, you might could wind up with a patient one day with a weird, wild preference, borne out of pure granola and stench..



Edit: ..and on the cool tubes deal, if you're really struggling for a use, you could send one my way. Right now, I'm thinking I'll wait 'til these 4' + plants finish up, then switch it back to overhead with the air-cooled biz. I think I've been denying a heat issue..

 

[Shcrews]

Damn bro sorry about your one spot, Sux to deal with constant issues. Keep grinding and everything will be cool. Knowledge and experience are much harder than property to obtain. Many people throw in the towel when shit gets rough but we onow the best thing is to keep grinding, and never put all your eggs in pne basket.

 

[TheArchitect]

and inch or 2 in the bottom of the table is different to a wick for 1 reason
perched water table.
the roots cant live in the bottom on the table if its continously flooded. therefore thats root space thats wasted.
now if your table is deep enough that there is enough space anyway then i guess it doesnt matter too much

Sure they can....

As long as the water stays fresh, which it should with multiple floods per day and an aerated res, then the roots will gladdly grow in the water.

I've actually grown plants in hydroton by just pouring water into a tray, waiting until its almost gone and then refilling it.

 

[TheArchitect]

And bobble, hands down the most reliable low matinence grows are e&f.

Cheap to build, easily built with redundancy, once a week checkups aren't a concern, no flooding, easy to tear down and go again, everything is reusable essentially indefinitely aside from a little bit of hydroton not worth recovering, and best of all, clean.

Theres a reason they are so prevalent, and have been around for decades.
Just my two copper clad zinc coins....

 

[bobblehead]

Lots on my mind in reading all this bobbles, but ultimately, the general gut on this end is Good for you. Feels more and more like the writing is on the wall..

I think MIway was spot-on in terms of keeping it [relatively, to you] simple. That is, tinkering in the name of discovery and advancement is awesome, but clockwork is priceless.

How about a tinker-corner?

Now, on that note, .. I'm quietly waiting and hoping for you to start tinkering with the organics. Even outside in the garden..

To be honest, I think I really just want to benefit from your experience and subsequent feedback/input.

But who knows -- legal beagle, you might could wind up with a patient one day with a weird, wild preference, borne out of pure granola and stench..



Edit: ..and on the cool tubes deal, if you're really struggling for a use, you could send one my way. Right now, I'm thinking I'll wait 'til these 4' + plants finish up, then switch it back to overhead with the air-cooled biz. I think I've been denying a heat issue..

Bro you and I both know this has been coming for a while now. It just sucks that its happening sooner than anticipated, but at least the shutdown was anticipated and I'm prepared.

I've decided to run 3 3' x 9" tables with 3 600's over each. 3 plants a table. This leaves me with another 3' x 9' space and 3 600's, 3 plants to do experiments... 7.2kw. I'm supposed to be downscaling and making things more manageable so I can focus on the new program I'm starting in school. I tend to forget that, as I always want to go bigger no matter what it is I'm doing.

Sorry but I'm keeping the tubes. Assuming my lake house really is dead, I need to get a crop flowering ASAP.

Damn bro sorry about your one spot, Sux to deal with constant issues. Keep grinding and everything will be cool. Knowledge and experience are much harder than property to obtain. Many people throw in the towel when shit gets rough but we onow the best thing is to keep grinding, and never put all your eggs in pne basket.

Yeah I'm not a quitter. I just know when to cut my losses... And hell, with all the shit I've bought and paid for with the meds I grew in that house, there's no loss. The lake house has served its purpose and helped to propel me to the next level.

And bobble, hands down the most reliable low matinence grows are e&f.

Cheap to build, easily built with redundancy, once a week checkups aren't a concern, no flooding, easy to tear down and go again, everything is reusable essentially indefinitely aside from a little bit of hydroton not worth recovering, and best of all, clean.

Theres a reason they are so prevalent, and have been around for decades.
Just my two copper clad zinc coins....

Thanks for the advice. I trust E&F, I don't trust any initial design to successfully grow 1lb plants and not get clogged up with roots... So I'll mess around with it on the side. When I have something reliable, maybe I'll ditch the tables. Maybe not. Gotta see how they compare. So far I've done best in tables.






Headed up to the lake house to make a final call on what to do.

I have a question for the horizontal growers watching... How do you feel about putting the tables on casters so I can push them together and pull them apart to work on the canopy? This would allow me to keep the room smaller, and trap the light better. Or, is it not worth the extra effort and I will be equally sucessful with 1' spaces between tables all the way around?

 

[Veg N Out]

My stuff is on casters and I have 1 ft around everything. Your plants will fill that aisle space if you cram all your trays together you wont have the opportunity for the plants in the edge of the tray to grow to their max potential. Do the casters, just dont cram it together.

 

[greenmatter]

if you think that you just might have a slight chance that just maybe you could-oughta-should- possibly want to move something .........

there is 100% chance that you will !!!!!

casters YES

 

[bobblehead]

Lol, thanks Veg and GM. I was thinking about it some more after I posted.... 1' isn't a lot of space to move... Casters would give me at least 2' to move around. I'm not a fat guy, but not skinny either.




Excellent news! The lake house has power! I knew it wasn't in my karma to have the main fail. I have the straw dd flushing out, cleaned up the last headband table, the octagon had 3 dead plants, but looks good otherwise... And I culled a secret table of headband that was 2-3 weeks old but hadn't grown any w/o light or nutes. After this last incident I'm done. I had considered keeping the house running with tables and biweekly visits, but obviously that's more stress than I need. Once dialed, my new room is going to outproduce the entire absentee lake house grow. I'll be able to afford to get my lake house paid off in 1 successful crop, and probably start remodeling after the next. Then I'll rent that bitch out or unload it and pay off my student loans! Yyyyeeeeeeaaaahhhhhhhhh!

 

[RM - aquagrower]

If ya can post a couple pics of that garage roof, I'm sure one of us roofers can point ya in the right direction on stopping the water.

 

[bobblehead]

If ya can post a couple pics of that garage roof, I'm sure one of us roofers can point ya in the right direction on stopping the water.

Thanks RM. I have a good feeling the leak is where the piece of drywall fell from the ceiling... The tape and mud were never done. The entire garage ceiling is now covered in various fungal colonies. Pennecilium, Stachybotrys, and Sclerotinia are easily identified.

I'm up in the air about having the whole house razed, or if its worth it to fix. I'm going to have to have a professional come through after shutdown I think. Its possible that I may only have to tear down half the house, replace the roof and drywall in the garage, and build off the middle of the house which appears to be in decent condition. The vertical grow section of the house is destroyed. All 3 layers of the floor are warped, the floor joists look like they're covered in feta. The roof is sagging as a result of the walls bowing out.

The house was in rough condition when I got it... and I have to say its in much worse shape now. Not safe for me to stay there anymore for health reasons. I was suffering from chronic fatigue for a while.. and occasional respiratory illness. Then I noticed the mold and leaks in the garage on a rainy day. Then a piece of drywall fell.

I'll take some pics... Sure, why not.

Thanks for helping prepare me for the worst case scenario with my electric btw. I was delightfully surprised when i got there and I didn't have to kill everything.

 

[bobblehead]

Megaburbank's most successful folly: Dirty Girl Scout. This one is DGS4, my second best pheno. They were all really nice. Not a bad plant in the bunch. Going on a 2-week smoking break after today. I have to take a drug test. boo.

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

the leak is where the piece of drywall fell from the ceiling... The tape and mud were never done. The entire garage ceiling is now covered in various fungal colonies. Pennecilium, Stachybotrys, and Sclerotinia are easily identified.

any staphylococcus there as well ?

 

[bobblehead]

lol that's a bacteria... I'm sure there is though.

 

[greenmatter]

the house hates you for what you did to the tub

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

lol that's a bacteria... I'm sure there is though.

i knew that i was just testing you
staphylococcus isnt a pleasant fellow AKA he isnt a fun guy

 

[Mister_D]

i knew that i was just testing you
staphylococcus isnt a pleasant fellow AKA he isnt a fun guy

lil microbe humor, only on icmag.....


Bobble - Keep shit simple, and DO put casters on any tables you may want to move around at some point. Also why only 3' wide tables? Space constraints I assume?

 

[bobblehead]

B/c from what I've read... 600's cover a 3'x3' area horizontal. The plants will grow outside that space, and I don't want them going past 4'x4'. I want to stick with 600's b/c I buy my lamps in bulk, and most of the ones in use are new. No point in buying 1kw ballasts and lamps when I have both 600w lamps and ballasts. The room will be about 10'x20', 3 3'x9' tables, and 1800w for experimentation with e&f, ppk, float valve, maybe give the blumats one last shot with my tensiometer that I have yet to use.... Too much going on right now.

200A panel installed. Check. 36k btu mini-split installed. Check. I just have to finish framing out the new room and all that jazz... Stupid busy with trimming and the other usual grower activities...

 

[silver hawaiian]

bobbles

Help me keep up - you're planning on three 3' x 9' tables, is that right?

What goes above the tables - three 600's? For one 600 per 3' x 3'.. ?

If so, I'm diggin' it - I can see the two 9'ers the long way, the third t'other way..

Kinda gives me a boner, it does.

 

[bobblehead]

bobbles

Help me keep up - you're planning on three 3' x 9' tables, is that right?

What goes above the tables - three 600's? For one 600 per 3' x 3'.. ?

If so, I'm diggin' it - I can see the two 9'ers the long way, the third t'other way..

Kinda gives me a boner, it does.

All the tables will run lengthwise. 1800w over each table. This room will easily outproduce my lake house, and its going to be easy-peasy once its all built. No more over-complicated bullshit. I'm looking at burning 7.2kw in flower. I'm thinking 2.4kw for 12hs in veg, and flourescents to keep them from flowering... This way I can flip the lights. I can always have dedicated ballasts if I feel the plants really need that extra 6hs of intense light. I think it'll be fine. I've used significantly less light in veg to keep the lake house bumpin. My plants are going to get a 10 week veg between cycles. I want to grow 12 1lb plants. That's the goal. Very achievable. I hope you can find the time to come help me trim for real... Cause 12 days of trimming doesn't sound appealing. The good news is there will be 8 weeks between trim sessions.

 

[Ichabod Crane]

Yeh right 12 days of trimming. I think that is a lie your way to adhd.