What's new
  • As of today ICMag has his own Discord server. In this Discord server you can chat, talk with eachother, listen to music, share stories and pictures...and much more. Join now and let's grow together! Join ICMag Discord here! More details in this thread here: here.

Blumat auto watering

Jhhnn

Active member
Veteran

Very nice. I really like fabric pots & blumats for flowering. It's impossible to overwater in a good soil mix. I also use them for seedlings in 2 gal airpots (orange bottom) because they're really great for transplanting.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=52773&pictureid=1694882

I plant sprouted seeds between the dripper & the carrot, induce flowering when they're a little taller than the pot, select & up-pot to 5 gal fabric pots where they go nuts. The blumat goes along for the ride. Just take out the blue plastic screw & unwrap the root ball when transplanting.
 

Sforza

Member
Veteran

The directions state that the hose should extend 8 cm or 3.15 inches past the carrot. In the photos of your system it sure looks like your hoses extend a lot further than 3.15 inches past the carrot. Did you read the directions to say 8 inches instead of the actual 8 cm?

"the dripper hose, which must protrude approx. 8 cm from the Tropf-Blumat"
 
Not to be a prick but I've had about a year worth of not watering it the way that I have it in the pictures. I've noticed if the hose is shorter the watered cone section is much smaller and doesn't saturate the pot fully which effects yield in my experience. That is for 5,7 or 10 gallon pots.
 

Sforza

Member
Veteran
It looks like the end of each line is maybe 3 or 4 inches from the other cone, so perhaps you have found the sweet spot that works for you and the sort of media you are using. They plants sure seem healthy.
 
Yup just chopped today after a 14 day flush. It was probably a little long for coco but whatever. May dial it back to 10 next time. Looking like I'll pull 25 off the room off 11k watts had to turn a light off in the back corner due to killing some nannered unstable from seed plants.
 

p0opstlnksal0t

Active member
I have them in regular black garden trays at the moment, plastic on the floor. Concrete slab, so not such a big deal, just a potential PITA.

I have a theory on this; Seems floods are possibly(likely) caused by the silicone (3mm) drip line getting pinched and staying that way. This in turn allows the soil to dry out, sucks water from the carrot and shit gets all fucked up. :help:

So... the B/M pressure reducer puts out a good bit more pressure/ volume, much more than most passive systems. This could be why peeps like Lazyman :wave:,using really large resos, appear to suffer less than folks using smaller systems.
If the above is an accurate "failure scenario" I expect to see a decrease or complete elimination of this troubling aspect of an otherwise perfect device.


Has this been looked at in more depth? I'm wondering what I would need to do to eliminate a need to have drainage.
 
Last edited:

Bwanabud

Active member
Has this been looked at in more depth? I'm wondering what 8 would need to do to eliminate a need to have drainage.

8 ? He's referring to the small 3mm line that goes thru the carrot sensor, and 8mm won't fit. When the adjust knob is turned down, a small pin pushes on the tubing to govern the flow rate...he suspects the pinched spot plugs up because of low pressure(small rez's)...make sense to me.

I'm running pressurized systems at 12-15lb output, and don't have that issue,
 

p0opstlnksal0t

Active member
Bbq6Qkve

Bbq6Qkve

8 ? He's referring to the small 3mm line that goes thru the carrot sensor, and 8mm won't fit. When the adjust knob is turned down, a small pin pushes on the tubing to govern the flow rate...he suspects the pinched spot plugs up because of low pressure(small rez's)...make sense to me.

I'm running pressurized systems at 12-15lb output, and don't have that issue,

Sorry I meant "I" not 8. I have Fat fingers lol.

So what could cause a runaway? I am designing a system and I'm wondering if this can be done without a drain to recirc or drain to waste? Runaways would be my greatest fear in a stealth closet Op.
 

Bwanabud

Active member
Sorry I meant "I" not 8. I have Fat fingers lol.

So what could cause a runaway? I am designing a system and I'm wondering if this can be done without a drain to recirc or drain to waste? Runaways would be my greatest fear in a stealth closet Op.

As long as your drains run to a holding tank(5 gal. buckets)as large as the reservoir capacity, you're covered. With no drain in the system a disaster is possible, then hand water for safety sake. I wouldn't run a pressurized system without a drain to the outside or sewage stack.

You have to have a drain system :tiphat:
 

p0opstlnksal0t

Active member
As long as your drains run to a holding tank(5 gal. buckets)as large as the reservoir capacity, you're covered. With no drain in the system a disaster is possible, then hand water for safety sake. I wouldn't run a pressurized system without a drain to the outside or sewage stack.

You have to have a drain system :tiphat:


Well that puts a new kink into my design hahaha
 

Bwanabud

Active member
I'll take a another look later tonight, I took a quick look at it already...I've got 80 smelly girls waiting for me right now :)
 
Anybody interested in my old blumats? I have at least 400, would prefer to sell in large chunks at least, pm me.
i might be interested. In the middle of building a grow room and I'm sure I want to use blumats with a coco setup. Only thing is I haven't decided how many plants i am going to run in 6x6 grow room. Might either do a 6x6 bloom room plus a 2x4 veg. Or just do 4x6bloom/2x4 veg. Either way what I'm saying is i don't know how many blumats I need yet. And if i decide to try to grow fairly large plants (like 4 or 5 footers) do I need Maxis or will the medium carrots work? Lmk what u had in mind please. And sorry i cant PM yet
 
I run 12k watt rooms on blumats two per pot pressurized with general hydroponic nutes with no problems and know somebody else running 9k watts that doesn't have to worry about watering anymore because of blumats. I really recommend using to per pot even with small pots, I had runoffs all the time with just one moved up to two and haven't had a problem since.
hey nate im planning out my coco blumats grow right now and am wondering how big those plants get? Im wondering if i should use small 2 or three gallon pots for 4 plants under 800 watts of COB LEDs? Someone told me that i should aim for large plants since i have the space and lighting and told me i should use 7.5 gallon pots to achieve this. Not sure which to go with i keep seeing conflicting arguments
 

rives

Inveterate Tinkerer
Mentor
ICMag Donor
Veteran
hey nate im planning out my coco blumats grow right now and am wondering how big those plants get? Im wondering if i should use small 2 or three gallon pots for 4 plants under 800 watts of COB LEDs? Someone told me that i should aim for large plants since i have the space and lighting and told me i should use 7.5 gallon pots to achieve this. Not sure which to go with i keep seeing conflicting arguments

I use 5-liter airpots, Botanicare Aeration Mix, V+B, Blumats, and 315w CMH lamps. I easily average a 1/4 lb per plant with that combo. I started with 3-gallon pots and have steadily worked my way down. I haven't used any of the COB-based fixtures, but used LEDs extensively before going to the 315's and would think that you might have issues with enough penetration to grow trees large enough to necessitate 7.5 gallon pots.
 

Bwanabud

Active member
I agree with Rives, I started with 5 gal, went down to 3 gal, now I'm using 2 gal. pots and growing 4' plants. Coco likes having root filled pots, it's not like soil/Promix at all.
 
thanks for your replies! definitely will go smaller and not aim for trees since light penetration might be a factor. might even look into going scrog in 6x4 area to try fully take advantage of my COB LEDs
 
Top